#archiveteam-bs 2018-07-24,Tue

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10:10 πŸ”— VoynichCr anyone here has paid for a Memory of Mankind project tablet?
10:38 πŸ”— Flashfire Can’t afford it
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13:00 πŸ”— eientei95 https://archive.org/details/international_201807
13:00 πŸ”— eientei95 https://archive.org/details/concert_20180724
13:00 πŸ”— eientei95 https://archive.org/details/national_201807
13:00 πŸ”— eientei95 Have 25 and a half hours of NZ public access radio
13:01 πŸ”— VoynichCr Flashfire: what would you write on it?
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16:17 πŸ”— arkiver eientei95: regarding radio stations
16:17 πŸ”— arkiver cool :)
16:18 πŸ”— JAA From #findeck: Regarding sprunge, I looked at the source code. The ID generation seems... weird: https://github.com/rupa/sprunge/blob/master/sprunge.py#L18-L24
16:19 πŸ”— JAA It uses A-Za-z0-9 as the character set but only randints between 0 and 35, i.e. not the entire set is used.
16:19 πŸ”— arkiver eientei95: we got a project running at IA to record radio stations.
16:19 πŸ”— eientei95 arkiver: Yeah, I heard
16:20 πŸ”— JAA Python's random.randint(a, b) is exclusive of b as well, I believe, so it's only 35^4 = about 1.5 million combinations.
16:20 πŸ”— arkiver JAA: interesting
16:20 πŸ”— JAA Ah no, it's inclusive. randrange is the exclusive one. 36^4 = 1679616 combinations then.
16:21 πŸ”— arkiver still, very few URLs relatively
16:21 πŸ”— eientei95 So it limits it to ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghij
16:21 πŸ”— arkiver eientei95: out of interest, any specific reason youΒ΄re recording these stations?
16:21 πŸ”— eientei95 Oh, I was just recording them for ~24h to see if it was possible
16:22 πŸ”— JAA Yep, A-Za-j.
16:22 πŸ”— JAA Why are we talking about Sprunge again?
16:23 πŸ”— eientei95 iirc someone was asking about archiving it
16:24 πŸ”— arkiver I think https://github.com/rupa/sprunge/issues/45#issuecomment-394846803
16:24 πŸ”— arkiver not sure if thereΒ΄s anything else
16:24 πŸ”— JAA Ah, right.
16:33 πŸ”— arkiver eientei95: are you planning to do more recording?
16:34 πŸ”— eientei95 I can, just not sure of a better way of recording than running wget in screen on my laptop
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18:12 πŸ”— arkiver The radio archive project is at https://archive.org/details/radio-archive
18:12 πŸ”— arkiver eientei95 ^
18:13 πŸ”— arkiver Most recordings are not publicly available, but that might change soon
18:15 πŸ”— JAA Oh, nice.
18:15 πŸ”— JAA I hope it does. :-)
18:15 πŸ”— arkiver This is right now the only one thatΒ΄s fully publicly available https://archive.org/details/Radio-VOA-Global-English
18:15 πŸ”— arkiver JAA: yes :)
18:16 πŸ”— arkiver We have a dashboard too, at http://researcher7.fnf.archive.org:30001/
18:19 πŸ”— JAA Neat
18:24 πŸ”— JAA arkiver: Where/how can I suggest additional stations? I see that there's a lack of Swiss stations.
18:25 πŸ”— znak_ Oh, I'm happy to know that there is https://archive.org/details/Radio-WFMU-91-1-FM. They host their own archives but they purge the high-quality MP3s after a few weeks.
18:26 πŸ”— arkiver JAA: You can let me know, I might add some forms to the dashboard to take suggestions and improvements too
18:27 πŸ”— JAA Alright, I'll compile a list sometime. :-)
18:27 πŸ”— JAA sets mode: +o arkiver
18:27 πŸ”— arkiver IΒ΄m currently going through every country in Europe, just done with Austria, next up is Belarus
18:27 πŸ”— JAA Ah, I see.
18:27 πŸ”— arkiver we could make a channel, maybe #radio-archive ?
18:27 πŸ”— znak_ Speaking of radio archiving, there are at least a couple of onion services (Tor hidden services) with what look like 24/7 recordings of some Spanish-language radio stations.
18:27 πŸ”— JAA That's why you threw those two radio map sites into ArchiveBot the other day.
18:28 πŸ”— arkiver yep, they are pretty great resources
18:28 πŸ”— arkiver lots of metadata and logos
18:28 πŸ”— znak_ http://www.g-radio.org/?page_id=9 leads to http://www.g-radio.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/grr-1.png and reading the URL from the screenshot leads to http://rbksxf6tw7gctk3a.onion/grabaciones.html (grabaciones = recordings)
18:28 πŸ”— arkiver LetΒ΄s discuss radio things at #radio-archive
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19:36 πŸ”— SketchCow This Chromebot thing...
19:39 πŸ”— SketchCow https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_chromebot
19:39 πŸ”— SketchCow I've moved things to it, now, and they'll show up
19:39 πŸ”— SketchCow But this project somehow missed things
19:42 πŸ”— SketchCow Like... what is it, even
19:44 πŸ”— JAA PurpleSym: ^
19:45 πŸ”— astrid i think it's an archivebot workalike that uses a captive chrome browser
19:45 πŸ”— astrid much like --phantomjs used to do
19:46 πŸ”— JAA Yep. One thing worth noting is that the WARCs do not contain the exact data as sent by the server because Chromium's APIs don't expose that. Transfer encoding is stripped, and headers are normalised, for example.
19:47 πŸ”— JAA Source code's here: https://github.com/PromyLOPh/crocoite
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20:02 πŸ”— SketchCow https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_chromebot
20:35 πŸ”— jrwr I mean overall, thats not a huge deal, encoding might be, but the headers should be too big of a issue
20:53 πŸ”— JAA Well, since WARCs are all about preserving the data sent by the server as accurately as possible, I think it's important to at least document it prominently.
20:56 πŸ”— arkiver yeah
20:57 πŸ”— arkiver maybe we should change mediatype for these to data so they donΒ΄t go in the wayback machine (for now)
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