#archiveteam-bs 2018-07-30,Mon

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00:00 🔗 riking actually the 25th is the only day that account has anything uploaded
00:00 🔗 vegmitemo Yeah, in tests and other things the script has been reliable.
00:01 🔗 riking so it hasn't uploaded anything today. did you doublecheck your config files, access key, etc
00:01 🔗 vegmitemo I regen'd my key a day or so ago, but I'll try again.
00:02 🔗 riking if you regenerated your key but forgot to tell the script, that'd do it :)
00:02 🔗 riking tip: add a setting to the script to upload items into test_collection
00:02 🔗 vegmitemo No, I'm pretty sure the key is right but just incase it bugged.
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00:04 🔗 vegmitemo Nope, new keys, definitely in the file, 503.
00:04 🔗 vegmitemo Wait a minute.
00:06 🔗 vegmitemo So that makes total sense.
00:07 🔗 vegmitemo Skipped the item it was attempting to create, the one after worked fine.
00:08 🔗 vegmitemo Which makes me think a metadata problem of some kind because a bytestream shouldn't be a problem.
00:11 🔗 vegmitemo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKJ4atlC2fA is the one that was failing. The only thing that would trip something up I guess is the description (non alphanumeric), but that doesn't seem all that different to what I just uploaded.
00:12 🔗 vegmitemo I definitely encode the headers as well so why would that be a problem?
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00:12 🔗 riking make sure you urlencoded the description correctly
00:12 🔗 vegmitemo One moment, I'll grab the header.
00:14 🔗 vegmitemo x-archive-meta-description:uri(Post%20this%20in%20the%20thread%20whenever%20asks%20for%20character%20creation%20tips.%0A%0ATry%20this%20at%20home%3A%20http%3A%2F%2Fwww.loverslab.com%2Ftopic%2F21438-illustrated-tips-guidelines-making-beautiful-female-characters%2F%3Fp%3D520411%0A%0AMusic%0ALesnik%20-%20Hot%20Dogs%3A%20https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DJVqk5APBkQs%0AEdzes%20-%20Fish%20and%20Chips%3A%20https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%
00:14 🔗 vegmitemo 2Fwatch%3Fv%3DoAA8C2nQqUA%0ACrome%20-%20Nova%20Superb%3A%20https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DD8ATvKpdoTw)
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00:28 🔗 riking "first path segment in URL cannot contain colon"
00:28 🔗 riking i... don't see a colon?
00:28 🔗 vegmitemo Well shit, where does it say that?
00:28 🔗 riking www.youtube.com%5:14 PM 2Fwa
00:29 🔗 riking oh that's from the irc client
00:29 🔗 vegmitemo Haha.
00:30 🔗 riking decoded fine
00:30 🔗 vegmitemo I wonder if the decoder on IA's end could be bugged, but then how would this not have already been found?
00:32 🔗 riking nah it's fine
00:32 🔗 riking something else's worng
00:33 🔗 vegmitemo A sequence of certain characters not being escaped properly maybe? This is strange.
00:34 🔗 riking i mean that all looked right so probably not the urlencoding
00:35 🔗 vegmitemo Sorry, I mean in whatever part of the S3 server handles metadata.
00:35 🔗 riking is it just that one failing?
00:36 🔗 vegmitemo They are supposed to be uploaded in order of their original upload on YT, because the Date Archived sorter on the site doesn't take the date field into account.
00:37 🔗 vegmitemo I'm guessing they probably would though, the 14 before that one were fine.
00:38 🔗 vegmitemo would work though*
00:51 🔗 vegmitemo Does S3 do anything special with URLs? Like send them to Wayback or something?
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00:59 🔗 vegmitemo riking, it's definitely the description, I just blanked it and it works.
00:59 🔗 riking i do think the description is supposed to be html
00:59 🔗 vegmitemo How do you mean?
01:00 🔗 riking like <br> tags and stuff
01:00 🔗 riking actually disregard that
01:00 🔗 riking anyways you don't actually have any <> in there
01:00 🔗 vegmitemo Even then they would be encoded you would think.
01:01 🔗 riking yeah but you'd need to encode them as &lt; -> %26lt%3B
01:03 🔗 vegmitemo If the header was encoded properly then what could S3 be having a problem with in that string.
01:03 🔗 vegmitemo If S3 had a decoding problem then surely someone would have had the issue.
01:08 🔗 vegmitemo Huh, I just tried using the web interface to put the description back and its just sitting there, usually only takes a second or so.
01:09 🔗 vegmitemo Okay, that's weird. It's returned a page that's like the archive.org homepage, but with just a grey bar and white background.
01:11 🔗 vegmitemo Well shit, another item just 503'd and it also has a description with a load of links.
01:12 🔗 vegmitemo Looks like archive.org has a problem.
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01:13 🔗 vegmitemo How in the world has this not been encountered before? So many videos have been mirrored statistically someone should've tripped this. Totally nuts.
01:17 🔗 vegmitemo No weird/failed tasks in the item log either.
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01:23 🔗 godane SketchCow: i'm going after cbsnews youtube channel
01:23 🔗 godane it has over 65k videos
01:23 🔗 godane going back to 2007
01:24 🔗 vegmitemo godane, damn, hope you have a good connection.
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01:25 🔗 godane most of these videos are 133+140 from 2007 and before
01:25 🔗 vegmitemo Ha, good point.
01:25 🔗 godane i will run a script to make them into daily dumps
01:26 🔗 vegmitemo Interesting to see how much will have changed in those 11 years.
01:30 🔗 godane i found something: https://commerce.wazeedigital.com
01:33 🔗 vegmitemo Some ad revenue/licensing thing?
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12:49 🔗 vegmitemo riking, I've left a message on IA's help forum, hopefully they can find the bug and fix it. Thanks for the help.
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13:21 🔗 JAA Regarding AMO: I've received confirmation from Mozilla that the legacy addons are not being removed from AMO currently. The only information I got about when the removal will happen is "not yet". (Arctic, atluxity, hook54321, eientei95)
13:24 🔗 atluxity ty
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15:07 🔗 jrwr isn't the ESR releases still use them right?
15:07 🔗 jrwr for the firefox stuff
15:07 🔗 * jrwr still misses the mozilla suite from 2005
15:08 🔗 JAA Yeah, see #archiveteam from yesterday. Firefox 52 ESR is still supported until early September, so the legacy addons should remain on AMO until then.
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16:40 🔗 znak riking: I've encountered encoding bugs in archive.org similar to what you are describing, but they resulted in other problems than 503s. Maybe related: https://github.com/jjjake/internetarchive/issues/235 https://archive.org/post/1091492/ https://archive.org/post/1092054/
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19:21 🔗 JAA Update on legacy addons on AMO: "<jorgev> removal of legacy add-ons is planned for Q4 this year, though no concrete dates are set yet"
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19:51 🔗 eientei95 JAA: Ok cool
19:51 🔗 eientei95 Any word on why that Legacy Theme Changer got removed?
19:51 🔗 eientei95 ah, nvm, saw what you said in #archivebot
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