#archiveteam-bs 2018-09-25,Tue

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00:00 🔗 Flashfire Nice what will that do?
00:00 🔗 godane i'm using it to mount those drives i got from Jason a few years back
00:01 🔗 godane this can support 8tb drives
00:01 🔗 godane i have like i think 5 1tb drives and one 750gb drive from my old computer
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00:20 🔗 JAA Oh, another infobox idea: renaming "Project status" to just "Status". It doesn't really make sense in my opinion that this is called "project"; also, that word is later used for the source code and tracker of our warrior project. It would make more sense to call what's now named "Archiving status" like that.
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01:11 🔗 JAA I've implemented my suggestions from above in a sandbox template at https://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_project_sandbox . Here are two examples what the boxes for TF2 Outpost and AMO would look like with this: https://transfer.sh/iogyv/tf2outpost.png https://transfer.sh/l4XyF/amo.png
01:12 🔗 JAA The "Template:Warrior project" and "Template:Other project" would get replaced, but I didn't create those templates yet. They'd display something like "[warrior logo] warrior" and "other", respectively, and also add the page to a category, similar to how {{saved}} etc. work.
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01:14 🔗 JAA When you don't specify a title, you get this: https://transfer.sh/FoSrr/notitle.png It doesn't seem to be possible to completely error out when a parameter isn't specified, so it just tries to make the user aware of the missing title.
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01:16 🔗 JAA The only real semantic change that could have an impact on old pages is that the "description" is now only displayed when there is an image. But I think that's not really a problem since the description was always defined as the image caption.
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01:17 🔗 JAA If you feel like trying out the new template, go to the editing page for an article and add "sandbox" to the template name (i.e. "{{Infobox project sandbox" instead of "{{Infobox project", then use the preview to see the effect (but don't save the page).
01:17 🔗 JAA Any thoughts, comments, feedback, and suggestions are very welcome.
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07:16 🔗 VoynichCr JAA: you can check if {{{title}}} parameter is provided using, {{if: {{{title|}}} | {{{title}}} | No title }}
07:17 🔗 VoynichCr even better, you can use page title (the <h1> value) when no title is provided: {{if: {{{title|}}} | {{{title}}} | {{PAGENAME}} }}
07:18 🔗 VoynichCr JAA: if you have any question about templates, you can ask me, i can do anything
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11:00 🔗 VoynichCr when a file is loaded in the path https://web.archive.org/save/_embed/ it is saved in the wayback, or it is a trick and it loads from the original source?
11:00 🔗 VoynichCr becoming unavailable if the source goes offline
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11:17 🔗 w0rmhole i know that https://web.archive.org/save/ saves the page...
11:20 🔗 VoynichCr yeah, but some content goes to https://web.archive.org/web/20180914155411im_/ and other to /save/_embed/ I dont know what is the difference
11:53 🔗 JAA VoynichCr: Hmm, the syntax I found was {{ #if: a | b | c }} with a pound sign. And yeah, great idea to default to the page title, thanks!
11:56 🔗 JAA VoynichCr: I believe that _embed is for frames. im_ are images. I don't know what the difference for _embed is, but with im_ URLs, you don't get the interstitial "saving the page now" thing as you do with /save/URL; it just directly redirects to the snapshot.
11:57 🔗 JAA VoynichCr: Actually, regarding the title, the #if construct isn't even needed; I think we can just use {{{title|{{PAGENAME}}}}}, right?
12:55 🔗 VoynichCr JAA: that expression works when |title= is missing in the page. But if it is added, it takes the "empty" value and |{{PAGENAME}} isnt processed
12:57 🔗 JAA Ah, right.
12:58 🔗 VoynichCr {{#if: {{{title|}}} | {{{title}}} | {{PAGENAME}} }}, the if takes an undefined title or any number of spaces as False, and it jumps to the else {{PAGENAME}}
13:04 🔗 JAA Yeah
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13:24 🔗 n00b995 hi
13:24 🔗 n00b995 some of you people may remember me, I was the guy with the Yuku.com stuff some time ago
13:25 🔗 n00b995 would someone here be able to get this? https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/62357075/
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18:42 🔗 adinbied I'm still stuck on why my Angelfire script isn't grabbing images/other content embedded on the page on the same subdomain. Here's my Lua: https://github.com/adinbied/angelfire-grab/blob/master/angelfire.lua - is there something obvious I'm doing wrong?
18:46 🔗 moufu you could try printing the url and the reason in the download_child_p callback if verdict is false
18:47 🔗 moufu wouldn't help if the urls aren't ever added to the download queue though
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19:21 🔗 HCross JAA: working with someone on Slack about my brozzler issues... so far we think something X wise is broken
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