#archiveteam-bs 2018-10-09,Tue

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04:02 🔗 Flashfire I hope we had a copy of kanye west stuff cause he deleted his instagram and twitter
04:05 🔗 ivan https://www.inoreader.com/subscription/65818821 has some
04:06 🔗 ivan via a twitrss feed
04:06 🔗 ivan or https://www.inoreader.com/feed/https%3A%2F%2Ftwitrss.me%2Ftwitter_user_to_rss%2F%3Fuser%3Dkanyewest
04:07 🔗 ivan http version goes back further in time https://www.inoreader.com/feed/http%3A%2F%2Ftwitrss.me%2Ftwitter_user_to_rss%2F%3Fuser%3Dkanyewest
04:07 🔗 ivan Apr 2018
04:08 🔗 ivan er, July 2014
04:09 🔗 ivan https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://twitter.com/kanyewest/ seems to have quite a few snapshots
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15:31 🔗 Guestiiii Hey
15:32 🔗 Guestiiii ivan: what about making a webextension that dumps the document tree and pushes it to a local server ?
15:35 🔗 Guestiiii i.e. http PUSH
15:35 🔗 Guestiiii Also, does grab-site has an api for http communication like that?
15:35 🔗 Guestiiii *have
15:38 🔗 ivan you can do this with puppeteer
15:38 🔗 ivan or with https://github.com/PromyLOPh/crocoite
15:39 🔗 Guestiiii link to pupeeter?
15:40 🔗 ivan https://github.com/GoogleChrome/puppeteer
15:40 🔗 ivan some sample code, good luck implementing all the scrolling and clicking https://gist.github.com/ivan/39751d44b9b6f8644ce8177339a2f459
15:40 🔗 Guestiiii mmh
15:41 🔗 Guestiiii oh, but I didn't mean some headless thing
15:41 🔗 ivan how would the web extension be an improvement over doing ctrl-s?
15:41 🔗 Guestiiii I just meant: you're looking at a webpage, click "bookmark" or whatever, and the extension, in addition to bookmarking it, pushes the data
15:42 🔗 Guestiiii but didn't you say ctrl-s doesn't work that well in firefox?
15:42 🔗 ivan you can get an extension to fix it
15:42 🔗 Guestiiii also, the improvement would be the combo bookmark+ctrl-s in one click
15:42 🔗 ivan your idea is weird to me because I save far more things than I bookmark
15:42 🔗 ivan but I guess you could write something that does that, yes
15:42 🔗 Guestiiii ok, thanks
15:43 🔗 Guestiiii and does grab-site listen to http for sites to archive?
15:44 🔗 ivan here's how puppeteer gets the DOM https://github.com/GoogleChrome/puppeteer/blob/07febb637c78cd59e22a15166f816d838a36e614/lib/FrameManager.js#L508-L520
15:45 🔗 ivan Guestiiii: there's no real control interface in grab-site except through command line operation and the control files
15:45 🔗 Guestiiii hah, thanks
15:45 🔗 ivan there's a websocket but it's just for grab-site processes to report what they're doing
15:45 🔗 Guestiiii but that's ugly!
15:45 🔗 Guestiiii (the dom thing)
15:46 🔗 ivan what's wrong with it
15:46 🔗 Guestiiii I don't know, I would have expected it to be 2 lines
15:46 🔗 Guestiiii isn't the dom just one big xml tree or something?
15:46 🔗 Meroje yes
15:47 🔗 Meroje how do you dump a tree? serialize it
15:47 🔗 Guestiiii well, it's text no?
15:47 🔗 ivan the XMLSerializer is just for the doctype
15:47 🔗 ivan the browser does the rest of the work with the .outerHTML
15:47 🔗 Meroje but that's for old pages, the relevant line is document.documentElement.outerHTML
15:47 🔗 ivan .doctype is the <!doctype ...> at the top
15:47 🔗 Meroje ^ yea right, thought there was an else
15:48 🔗 Meroje effectively two lines of code
15:48 🔗 Guestiiii ah
15:48 🔗 Guestiiii oh, you were linking to specific lines
15:48 🔗 Guestiiii I think my adblocker messed that
15:49 🔗 Meroje it's a big file, if you scroll before it is ready you don't end up on the correct lines
15:49 🔗 Guestiiii yeah, ok
15:50 🔗 Guestiiii and is the js and css somehow embeddid in outerHTML or?
15:50 🔗 Meroje there is no external resources
15:50 🔗 Guestiiii ivan: my general rationale is I want to have a relatively easy way to keep track (and hopefully relatively good archives) of sites: but those are only ones I bookmark
15:51 🔗 Guestiiii also, if I were to write an extension like mentionned, I could easily make it send links, the html and other stuff; that is, I can adapt it
15:51 🔗 Guestiiii Meroje: what do you mean exactly?
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15:52 🔗 ivan https://pinboard.in/faq/#search_scope does this for you
15:53 🔗 Guestiiii Yeah, but that's a company, not my own computer!
15:54 🔗 Guestiiii Note: I'm not trying to argue over anything, if you guys start getting weary of my arguments, tell me before I make a fool of myself!
15:54 🔗 schbirid pinboard is love
15:56 🔗 Guestiiii isn't it paying anyway?
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15:58 🔗 Meroje there's webrecorder too as an easy-ish solution to selfhost
16:06 🔗 Guestiiii using headless chrome?
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17:27 🔗 Guestiiii gtg, thanks for the infos!
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22:03 🔗 Flashfire https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cU6AZnWyJu7tEuqfgLaq_kuAMBFQFtsY8rNof9fBRfk/edit
22:03 🔗 Flashfire List of Wikis migrating
22:03 🔗 Flashfire JAA
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22:04 🔗 astrid Flashfire: you've pasted this in every channel but no explanation
22:04 🔗 astrid why
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22:05 🔗 Flashfire List of wikis migrating from wikia to fandom
22:06 🔗 Flashfire they will all eventually move from wikia to fandom but they are the trial ones moving
22:06 🔗 astrid ok
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