#archiveteam-bs 2018-12-15,Sat

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01:41 πŸ”— ivan` grab-site is now in nixpkgs master
01:42 πŸ”— ivan` with nix installed it should be installable with nix-env -f https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/archive/master.tar.gz -iA grab-site
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02:14 πŸ”— voltagex_ what's the best way to grab websites for personal archiving purposes?
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02:20 πŸ”— ivan` voltagex_: if you want WARCs and don't need JavaScript execution then try grab-site
02:20 πŸ”— voltagex_ ivan`: warcs are ok, but I'd like it to merge to one HTML file for some things (news pages) and to PDF for others. I guess I could use warc as the storage format
02:21 πŸ”— teej_ I think https://www.altaba.com should be archived by ArchiveBot. Altaba is the remains of Yahoo, when Verizon bought it and changed its name.
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02:21 πŸ”— teej_ It hasn't been archived fully, and I've already manually archived a bunch of pages, but it will take a long time by hand.
02:21 πŸ”— ivan` teej_: I can grab it and upload it to IA since FOS is busy
02:22 πŸ”— teej_ ivan`: Okie dokie. Thanks.
02:22 πŸ”— ivan` it has started, I can get you a status later if you want
02:22 πŸ”— teej_ Okay. Thanks.
02:23 πŸ”— teej_ What does the -bs in this channel name stand for?
02:23 πŸ”— ivan` bullshit?
02:33 πŸ”— marked dxrt : that page is what pops up in some home users web browers when their ISP are technical enough but also misguided
02:34 πŸ”— marked so you'll try to use the net but instead you get a notice form your cable company about the recent announces usually useless
02:35 πŸ”— marked it's a problem for IA because a warrior user might be grabbing an item but filling it with these webintercepts
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02:35 πŸ”— marked it's hard to do well they could easily be returning 200 codes
02:36 πŸ”— marked not IA, problem for AT asking people to use warriors
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03:38 πŸ”— kyounko whats the deal with archiving wiki type websites or web forums?
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04:20 πŸ”— marked is this [ https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/universal-tracker ] the repo that runs on http://tracker.archiveteam.org ?
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04:48 πŸ”— t3 marked: From the looks of the index.erb and https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/universal-tracker/blob/master/views/how_to_help_card.erb, it seems like it is.
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04:51 πŸ”— marked the issues list goes from 2013 and stopped in 2015
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07:17 πŸ”— eientei95 JAA: Any reason why snscrape (via https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&lang=en&q=from%3Aphilomela_twine&src=typd&qf=off) fails to find any tweets but there are tweets in https://twitter.com/philomela_twine ?
07:41 πŸ”— marked Why do we crawl with a useragent with ArchiveTeam in it?
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08:33 πŸ”— marked we need a canary
08:33 πŸ”— Flashfire I will be a canary
08:33 πŸ”— Flashfire Wait why?
08:33 πŸ”— Flashfire what did I just sign up for
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09:29 πŸ”— ave_ hmmmm, time to spin up another warrior, let's hope that this one runs faster than the other one
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09:48 πŸ”— ave_ yep, warrior 2 up. Now let's see if I can put it on a couple more servers.
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10:01 πŸ”— hook54321 ave_: If you're interested in Tumblr related conversation it's happening in #tumbledown
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10:02 πŸ”— ave_ I'll try to keep up at least 2 warriors even after tumblr though.
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13:54 πŸ”— godane i'm digitizing another tape again
13:55 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: i'm going thur the last of tapes not digitized so i get them to you
14:08 πŸ”— tapos If I wanted to archive a NSFW tumblr blog using wpull before it gets shut down, would I have to do some cookie magic or something?
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14:44 πŸ”— godane so looks like the latest evince opens pdfs faster now
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15:11 πŸ”— JAA eientei95: Twitter bug. I've seen it on a couple of accounts. Some also simply cut off at a certain date. I first suspected that it has something to do with changing the handle, but apparently that's not the reason. https://github.com/JustAnotherArchivist/snscrape/issues/4
15:15 πŸ”— godane so this tape is tour de france 2005
15:16 πŸ”— godane its stage 5 that happend on july 6 2005
15:16 πŸ”— godane so at least i got a date for this tape
16:21 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: Julie Walters and Friends tapes doesn't work
16:21 πŸ”— godane i get weird audio with no picture
16:21 πŸ”— godane i'm thinking its a pal tape cause it has uk rating on it
16:22 πŸ”— godane whats weird is there no PAL label on the tape at all
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18:58 πŸ”— t3 I'm just curious. Can I set up ArchiveBot on my computer and archive a website and send the warc to you guys?
18:59 πŸ”— t3 A lot of times, the ArchiveBot on the #archivebot channel is busy doing more important things. I also don't want to get my only home IP address banned on websites I regularly use.
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19:35 πŸ”— t3 I think the Archive Team GitHub repos are very disorganized. I can try to help organize them.
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21:22 πŸ”— Kaz pawbs: it's fine - we just try to pull longer discussions into here as it keeps the other channel clear for announcements and such
21:23 πŸ”— pawbs That makes sense.
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23:21 πŸ”— twoTBHetz edishere , and all others, i talked with one the executives of my local student ISP. He said contributing our 10GBit/s link, a few dozens of ipv4 and a chunk of our /56 IPv6 would inline with our mission. We would spin up many warriors on our vm hosts.
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23:27 πŸ”— twoTBHetz This still has to run trough the technical comittee and needs to be implemented. So we may get it done by march. We also need some time to find when we will run the warrios. Whether on emergency only or over night. This is also a relatively big expenditure of our resources so it is possible that our stundent organistion wants a cooperation treaty. So you would might need to offer some "servie" in return.
23:28 πŸ”— twoTBHetz JAA HCross SketchCow does that sound interesting?
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23:31 πŸ”— Flashfire What would they want in return? twoTBHetz I have no control over any decision but I’m curious what they would want
23:37 πŸ”— twoTBHetz FlashFire i have no idea either. One thing i could thing up: we also produce video content, we currently only got a backup at our university computer center (from which we got the remaining uplink). We might want an offsite backup too. But we got license stuff which prevents us from putting it into archive.org
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23:37 πŸ”— HCross Ehh... I don't think we want to be signing treaties or contracts
23:38 πŸ”— HCross We're volunteers, not the European Union
23:39 πŸ”— JAA There's also noone really to sign anything. It's not like we're a well-defined organisation. We're just a bunch of nerds on IRC.
23:39 πŸ”— Flashfire ^
23:40 πŸ”— Kaz HCross: hit us where it hurts why don't you
23:40 πŸ”— HCross You know what I mean
23:43 πŸ”— twoTBHetz I have no idea how it might turn out on our site, whether a cooperation ** is necessary. I just came up with the idea and thought the connection might be fruitfull. we are all volunteers in our club too. but german law maybe restricts us a little what we can do with our club equipment. I will need opinions of some people and thought i might ask you guys first whether our equipment would be helpfull enough for you to be worth the
23:43 πŸ”— twoTBHetz hassle
23:46 πŸ”— twoTBHetz JAA i get that totally.
23:48 πŸ”— twoTBHetz I am just curious whether i should procede to push the idea in my ISP club, what some rough limits on your site are.
23:49 πŸ”— Kaz i'm curious about how an ISP club comes to exist
23:49 πŸ”— Kaz and how it managed to get a 10G link
23:50 πŸ”— twoTBHetz We are in ex-communist germany. All the students dorm are under controll of an ngo. We are the only technical university in our state.
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23:52 πŸ”— twoTBHetz After reunification there was a challenge to provide the internet to the student dorms. The university offered an uplink to the ngo but it is not up for the technical challenge so a student group formed and took over the connetion back then. As far as i know
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23:54 πŸ”— twoTBHetz We did our job well and charge every one in the dorms a very reasonable price for the internet. With this 5-6 digit money we upgrade our infrastructure and cross finance content production with a tv station and so on.
23:55 πŸ”— twoTBHetz Kaz, what are your managment related questions
23:55 πŸ”— Kaz that's.. really interesting
23:56 πŸ”— Kaz compared to some of the shit I've seen at UK unis
23:57 πŸ”— twoTBHetz we connect the dorms rooms up to 2x 1 GBit/s. (depending on when when it was last modernized) and we charge 40€ per 6 months.
23:58 πŸ”— twoTBHetz Our university might get 40 GBit's uplink in the next few years.
23:59 πŸ”— pawbs Only 40 euros for 6 months? Damn, I wish my internet was that cheap…

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