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my latest digitize scans: https://www.patreon.com/posts/digitize-scans-23830240 |
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"We wanted to reach out again to remind you that Curse Media will be joining the Fandom team. We’ve contacted you to ask for your consent to transfer your account terms and the personal data associated with your account to Fandom" |
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https://wiki.newsbuddy.net/ is listed on https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=NewsGrabber and is dead |
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JAA |
"Curse owns and operates multiple high-traffic gaming websites, including Azurilland, Diablofans, Hearthpwn, MMO-Champion, Arena Junkies, Reign of Gaming, LoL Pro, Minecraft Forums, Guild Wars 2 Guru, and FPS General." |
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Sounds fun... |
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psi |
D&D Beyond as well |
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psi |
Which also, surprise surprise, has a sizeable forum |
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psi |
And then there's this https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VWgjdEV7/image.png |
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Yea, right. |
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fun |
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psi |
Plenty of food for Fusl's machines ^-^ |
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:P |
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need. more. ips. |
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psi |
How many did you have again? :P |
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Eeeek! |
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1024 |
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Fusl |
four /24s |
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And you need how many more? |
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Fusl |
more. |
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psi |
Just get a /8 smh |
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psi |
Or a /0 while you're at it |
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psi |
;) |
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kiska |
I kinda have a feeling that Twitch only bought Curse for the Curse app(rebranded as twitch launcher) |
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psi |
There's a good chance |
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kiska |
Right... analysing Minecraft forums, then I'll write code. |
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kiska |
JAA: minecraftforums-grab please? |
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kiska |
I also propose the channel name #cursed |
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kiska: /join #cursed |
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Or do we want to lump it in with curse-grab? |
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Ah I see... |
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When was the channel made? |
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About 60 seconds ago. :-P |
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kiska |
I am assuming you like the channel name? |
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JAA |
I do. |
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godane |
here is a guy that has tons of japanese gaming magazines on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/sch/Magazine-Back-Issues/280/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=japan-goods-hunter&_sac=1 |
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Eeek! Too many things happening all at once |
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t3 |
I propose that announcements should be made on a new channel called #archiveteam-announcements or -main so that users don't have to get kicked out all of the time from #archiveteam. |
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t3 |
JAA: Please give me your feedback on this proposal. ^ |
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t3 |
This way the core Archive Team members will have a dedicated channel for announcements without interruptions such as non-announcement messages. |
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Either that, or the Archive Team wiki page should show a different channel name so that newbies like me aren't initially directed to #archiveteam for simple things. |
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astrid |
nah it introduces people to the fact that archiveteam is splayed across a dozen+ channels |
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astrid |
:P |
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JAA |
A dozen, lol. I'm in 75 channels at the moment. |
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astrid |
jeepers |
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astrid |
i lost track a while ago |
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astrid: It already is more than 20. |
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astrid |
well i said "dozen+" so i'm still not wrong :P |
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t3 |
And, to be honest, I would prefer things to be more organized. That is why I am making these proposals. |
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JAA |
Technically correct, the best kind of correct. :-) |
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t3 |
How about a proposal to change the channel displayed on the wiki page? |
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JAA |
I guess we could make the distinction between #archiveteam and -bs (and -ot) more clear. I don't like the idea of adding yet another channel though. |
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t3 |
Okay. |
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t3 |
So a proposal to make the distinction between #archiveteam #archiveteam-bs and #archiveteam-ot to be more clear is in consideration. |
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JAA |
And as mentioned previously, the entry burden should be small. If someone finds a site that's shutting down, it should be as easy as possible to make us aware of that. Pointing everyone to #archiveteam achieves that. |
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t3 |
Should some message like that appear on the main wiki page? |
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t3 |
I propose the three channels should be listed on the main wiki page with their purposes and use cases listed. |
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t3 |
This way, users will know what to do. |
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t3 |
I also propose the channel topics should clarify the distinction in some way as well. |
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JAA: ^ |
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JAA |
They already do, and we can't extend them because EFNet has stupid topic length limits. |
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JAA |
Yeah, listing them on the wiki might be a good idea. |
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t3 |
JAA: If you look at this channel's topic, it doesn't even mention #archiveteam. Perhaps a link to the a dedicated wiki page for the distinction can be made. |
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JAA |
Well yeah, #archiveteam is the main channel which is mentioned everywhere on the wiki etc., so pointing back to it would be a bit redundant. |
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JAA |
Most people who are in this channel will have com here from #archiveteam. |
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JAA |
come here* |
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JAA |
And the topic of #archiveteam mentions both -bs and -ot. |
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t3 |
I propose the main wiki page should list the three channels with a link to a wiki page that further clarifies the distinctions between them. |
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JAA |
The real problem is that people don't read topics. |
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t3 |
JAA: I believe that there are still a lot of people read the topics. |
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t3 |
Let me modify my proposal. |
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JAA |
Could just be a link to https://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=IRC#Special_ArchiveTeam_IRC_rules which lists the channels already. |
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SketchCow |
kiska: I assume the UOL project's done. |
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_uol |
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JAA |
SketchCow: Still in progress. Come to #UhOhL for details. |
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SketchCow |
I propose JAA is in charge of all proposals |
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SketchCow |
He has to take them under consideration |
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SketchCow |
His job will be to take them all under consideration |
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SketchCow |
Just sittin' there, considering |
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t3 |
I propose the main wiki page should list the three channels (#archiveteam #archiveteam-bs #archiveteam-ot) with a link to a wiki page that further clarifies the distinctions between them. This wiki page link should also be included in the topics of all three channels. |
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t3 |
SketchCow: Lol. |
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JAA |
That I can do. :-) |
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SketchCow |
As per the proposal, JAA is in charge of all your proposals |
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JAA |
Proposal noted, to be debated sometime in the summer session 2020, maybe. |
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t3 |
SketchCow: I'm fine with JAA. He's a responsible person. |
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SketchCow |
JAA: Mostly, I was just focusing on uploading the logo into the items in the collection. :) |
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SketchCow |
I just slammed them all in, they'll show up soon |
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JAA |
I agree regarding listing the channels more prominently, and also making it clearer how to tell us about a site shutting down. Currently, people need to click around and read quite a bit on the wiki page to figure that out. |
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JAA |
Sweet :-) |
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JAA |
There's more data coming still but with dirty tricks. |
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JAA |
(The shutdown was done only on the DNS level; the forums are still accessible if you know the right IP.) |
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t3 |
JAA: There is some information on https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=IRC but it requires more scrolling. |
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JAA |
That data isn't uploading to IA yet. |
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JAA: Is there a wiki page with a list of all the channels? |
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t3: What do you mean by "all of them"? All the project channels? Nope, don't think so. |
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t3 |
JAA: Yeah. I didn't find anything either. The only other page I found was https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=IRC_Channel |
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JAA |
There are also channels which aren't listed anywhere on the wiki etc. This is anarchism. :-) |
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t3 |
I think people can communicate more effectively with an organized list. |
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SketchCow |
I like t3, they've been here for six minutes and They Have Ideas |
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SketchCow |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lV0r93bhes is how meetings go here (I'm Control/John Hurt in this metaphor) |
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t3 |
SketchCow: I like sketchy cows and cows and cows... https://youtu.be/FavUpD_IjVY |
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SketchCow |
Yes, that's how to get in with me |
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MrRadar |
IRC is ancient, I propose we move all discussions to Discord (/s if that wasn't obvious) |
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SketchCow |
ha ha noooooo |
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SketchCow |
Nooo nooooo |
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SketchCow |
nooo |
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t3 |
Your nick always reminds me of that YouTube video. |
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SketchCow |
through my bloody, broken fingers no |
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JAA |
MrRadar: Well, there was a proposal for that recently in -ot, so that /s is definitely necessary. :-/ |
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JAA |
a serious proposal* |
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Ugh, I haven't been around too much so I guess I missed that |
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I'm definitely with Sketch on this one |
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Same |
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Let's see... 45 minutes before I have to leave for my flight |
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MrRadar |
IRC is pretty crusty but at least it's an actual open non-centralized standard... |
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JAA |
That exactly. |
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Sanqui |
discord with irc bridge is a thing fwiw |
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t3 |
Perhaps we're waiting for Matrix to become more mature. |
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t3 |
And their Riot clients. |
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JAA |
That was discussed in -ot as well. |
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kr_ |
Hello, hello. I realize now that IRC the quickest way to get in touch (going over to #archivebot right now), but does the archiveteam@archiveteam.org email get checked often? I saw it on the wiki homepage and tried it but I guess it's been a week. Though Internet constantly burning and the holidays are definitely factors there |
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Kaz |
a very good question |
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SketchCow |
I see it |
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It's usually maniacs |
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SketchCow |
Or "You guys should really [massively unfunded mandate]" |
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SketchCow |
I ping people IN THIS CHANNEL to bring up good points |
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SketchCow |
Which makes ME sound like the maniac |
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Well alright then, thank you :P |
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SketchCow: You da real MVP |
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VADemon: Oh, SchülerVZ & Co. are shutting down? Damn, that brings back some memories from almost 15 years ago. lol |
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Ah, SchülerVZ already shut down years ago, I see. |
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astrid: How's the tracker machine doing? We're seeing some flaky performance and 503s over in #UhOhL which started when I requeued ~100k items on the UOL Forums project a bit under 5 hours ago. |
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the disk on that vm cluster is irritatingly laggy sometimes |
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that's probably the source of it |
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http://xor.meo.ws/3b23faf8/f275/4ec8/b8ee/d4a83bbf1f95.png |
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(Plot by Fusl) |
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astrid |
pretty |
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Hmm, any idea why it started exactly at that moment and stayed like that since but worked fine the entire day before? |
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how does 100k compare to previous batches that you've run |
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also how full is the db |
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JAA |
I added in batches of 100k over the last few days. At the maximum yesterday evening, I think we had 100k out + 150k todo. |
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idk uh, |
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astrid |
i don't know much about the tracker software tbh |
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astrid |
i can reboot it :) |
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oh god no dont reboot things |
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we're all good |
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JAA |
It still seems fine mostly, and we make good progress, but it's really a bit strange to me why a requeue would cause that but previous batches wouldn't. But yeah, I don't know anything about the tracker software either. |