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anyways i'm back on my 20190319 build of debian testing |
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i was able to scan a magazine again |
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SketchCow: maybe you should change these language from Jp to Japanese : https://archive.org/search.php?query=language%3A%22jp%22&page=2 |
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there is only 402 items with language set to JP |
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and 311 of items are from you : https://archive.org/details/@sketch_the_cow?&and[]=languageSorter%3A%22Jp%22 |
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Yeah, but I also know the deriver knows what I'm talking about |
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Where are these EUMagazineScans coming from? godane ? |
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Hi guys! A quick question related to Warrior and the NewsGrabber project. What kind of servers are suitable for this project? I tried running it yesterday on my server (uploaded about 183GB), however it's basically eating up all CPU power of the server |
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Wondering what kind of hardware I'm looking at to get it running without crashing? |
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igloo page on line 7 |
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SketchCow: ? |
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godane |
if your talking about the Unedit Japanese Magazine scans i found them on a website with a mega.nz links |
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SketchCow: http://randomhoohaas.flyingomelette.com/ai/scans/ |
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if not that i have no idea what you mean by EUMagazineScans |
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Bajoodle: Hey! Are you using the warrior or scripts? |
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Igloo |
Did you see that I made some changes this morning relating to Docker? |
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So; It does that. Basically, Whatever CPU it can get it uses (as it has to do a bunch of CPU intensive tasks; Deduplication hashes files for example) |
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However, If you could, run the docker image as it has a fully working youtube-dl, the warrior itself doesn't (but the rest works fine) |
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You can then control the concurrency a bit better, I generally go for 1.5 times CPU. But that depends what CPU's you've got. |
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I run it on 8 core xeons, i7 & i9 servers |
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SketchCow: ok so you got more byte magazines that are OCR and have eu in id name so i'm guess is your asking about that |
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Igloo: Oh, I'm running it in Docker on an ubuntu machine. I'll try to start the NewsGrabber project and see how it behaves. |
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I see a lot of failed wgetDownload jobs - is there a log for the warrior somewhere as these jobs disappear too quickly for me to see what's going on |
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godane |
those are not from me if your asking |
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godane |
the only ocr byte magazine i know of are on vintageapple.org and those files you have are not them |
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godane |
SketchCow: you may one the byte magazine here also : https://vintageapple.org/byte |
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godane |
*want |
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godane |
they have index to pages and ocr |
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godane |
also 1981-02 issue is 2 pages long then your eu OCR file |
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Bajoodle: Not really, it's meant to be kinda inactive. The wget failures you're seeing are *likely* to be the -video jobs |
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Igloo |
Which don't work in the warrior |
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Igloo |
But do work if you run the newsgrabber-warrior as a docker container |
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Igloo |
(blame python) |
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Bajoodle |
Igloo: Thanks. Is this what I should be looking into then? https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/NewsGrabber-Warrior |
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Igloo |
Yep, https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/NewsGrabber-Warrior/blob/master/Dockerfile |
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Igloo |
If you just grab that & ammend the final line |
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Bajoodle |
Igloo: thanks |
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Igloo |
concurrency is the number of instances of wpull to spawn (basically) |
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Igloo |
So replace X with a value (I'd go for number of CPU's, it'll initially use them all then slow down as rsync and stuff happens) |
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Igloo |
replace YOURUSERNAME too |
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Igloo |
You don't need to worry about cloning the whole repo then :) |
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Anthony1 |
What should do about itunes? |
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Anthony1 |
we |
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SketchCow |
godane: Mystery solved |
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SketchCow |
But thanks for weighing in. |
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abstract |
Anthony1, is anything dying other than the software package? |
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Anthony1 |
abstract: Sketch |
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Despatche |
astrid: the problem is that none of these channels are active enough |
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Fusl |
Despatche: you previously left right before a longer conversation happened in here |
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Despatche |
okay? i've been here for a while now. these channels aren't so active to warrant having a separate channel for literally everything |
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Despatche |
it's like discord but worse |
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JAA |
You got that the wrong way around. |
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ivan |
there's no need for a channel to be active |
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astrid |
to some extent i agree; it's hard to get a good picture of what archiveteam is up to. i personally direct all the archiveteam channels i'm in to the same window, and color them differently so i can see where a discussion is happening |
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astrid |
but that's a personal choice. |
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astrid |
segregating them to different channels allows for e.g. if someone talks about ftp servers in #effteepee after a few weeks of quiet, it flags in everyone's client that "ftp talk is happening" |
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astrid |
putting archivebot control in #archivebot keeps the noise away from project channels |
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astrid |
etc etc etc |
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Despatche |
but there is so little "noise", if you can even call it that |
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Despatche |
it seems like an awful lot of work for absolutely no benefit |
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astrid |
by your standards, sure, but not everyone is watching irc all day long |
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astrid |
anyway |
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astrid |
we do it this way |
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Despatche |
LOL |
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Despatche |
wow, that is some irony |
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Despatche |
anyway, it'd be nice if there was a system for people who don't watch irc all day long |
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astrid |
yes we have a log bot |
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JAA |
The point is to keep topic-specific discussion in a single location. Otherwise this channel or #archiveteam gets messy almost immediately. |
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Despatche |
gets messy with what? the one or two people posting once per hour? |
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astrid |
and if two projects are happening at once, which often is the case, they don't need to stomp on each other |
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JAA |
There are probably some channels that aren't necessary, but usually we try to only create new channels when it becomes necessary, i.e. if more coordination for a particular thing is necessary. |
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JAA |
There are more active channels than that. |
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Despatche |
the way project channels are being handled is probably fine |
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Despatche |
the problem is these three main channels |
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astrid |
also it allows for the people who are in charge of a project to have some control over who participates in it |
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JAA |
I don't see any problem with that. #archiveteam for short announcements "ohshitohshitohshit, this giant site is going down tomorrow!!". But if all discussion was in there as well, people would miss those. |
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astrid |
there used to be one channel and we had to split it into main and -bs. then there was too much offtopic discussion in -bs so we had to split that into -ot |
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astrid |
this feels stable |
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astrid |
and it has been stable |
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JAA |
Yeah |
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astrid |
it seems like overkill to you because you haven't been here during three concurrent fire drills :) |
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Despatche |
so what you're saying is, you expanded the system because of a situation that no longer exists |
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astrid |
it doesn't exist today but it will probably come back soon enough. it comes in waves. |
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Despatche |
i mean if you wanna have one channel for archive stuff and one channel for whatever, that's fine |
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astrid |
services tend to get shut down around the end of the fiscal quarter |
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Despatche |
nah, things are different now |
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Despatche |
discord |
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astrid |
and that was last month |
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astrid |
we don't use discord |
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astrid |
we use irc |
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Despatche |
oh, dear, no |
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Despatche |
you don't use discord |
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Despatche |
discord uses you. |
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astrid |
yeah it doesn't though |
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astrid |
what is your point |
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Despatche |
err, i think i've made my point pretty clear, and i think you've made yours... |
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astrid |
ok |
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astrid |
you came in the channel and informed us that we are doing things wrong |
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astrid |
i told you why they are the way they are |
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Despatche |
me: "this system doesn't make sense" you: "whether or not it is, we like it all the same" me: "oh. ok" |
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astrid |
yep. |
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Despatche |
at least consider merging the main and bs channels |
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astrid |
considered, declined. |
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JAA |
I just explained you why those need to be separate. |
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JAA |
Not everyone reads the chat in real-time. |
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Despatche |
ah, there's that irony again |
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JAA |
People who only glance over the chat every few days will never find the relevant announcements in a single channel. |
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Despatche |
people not reading chat all the time is why having so many channels is a problem... |
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JAA |
That doesn't make any sense. |
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astrid |
are you going to do anything useful or are you just going to shit on how we have self-organized our work |
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Despatche |
that... that's how this works |
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Despatche |
that's why discord is such an issue lol |
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JAA |
I still don't understand what your problem is. You agree that the project channels are fine, but you're ranting about "so many channels" which are... two? |
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Despatche |
watching people have to repeatedly get reminded that they're posting in the wrong "channel" is immensely depressing, because that's the domain of shithole discord servers |
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Despatche |
especially when it's literally a line an hour. |
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Despatche |
*"wrong" channel |
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Despatche |
if this is really that important to you guys, getting so defensive about it isn't the answer |
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ivan |
Despatche: can you write software |
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Despatche |
oh hey, there's more irony |
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Despatche |
astrid ivan: please don't proofcall me. there are no meritocracies, and it's precisely because of organizations like this |
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ivan |
I just wanted to know if you could do something useful here |
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Despatche |
i wanted to drop it but you're starting to cross the line |
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JAA |
We're talking about #archiveteam vs -bs, right? What would your solution be that doesn't mean that people who only look at IRC every few days miss the important bits? |
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JAA |
Because that's exactly what would happen with a merged channel. |
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Despatche |
it really astounds me that you think more channels are *better* for people who look at chat less |
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Despatche |
that is the exact opposite of how anything works lol |
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ivan |
Despatche: do you have any archiving things you want to work on? we have projects |
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Despatche |
man, look, i just come here to see recent announcements. only reason i even put bs and ot on speeddial is because of this whole situation. i'm obviously not personally invested in having a hundred channels for every little thing, but i sure am invested in seeing that cause issues across discord! |
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JAA |
You miss the point. The people who only look at AT chat every few days don't want to read stuff like this discussion or detailed talk about what a particular site is structured like etc, stuff that we'd currently have in -bs. They want only the most important bits: which sites are shutting down or at risk, etc. |
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Despatche |
i miss the point. hooboy. |
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Despatche |
this is all completely unnecessary |
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JAA |
Without reasonable arguments, yep. |
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Despatche |
without reasonable arguments, yep |
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Despatche |
that's why you keep telling me the exact opposite of what's true, i guess |
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JAA |
Uh, no? |
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Anyway, this is not productive. |
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Fusl |
20:05 <Despatche> at least consider merging the main and bs channels |
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Fusl |
god no |
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Fusl |
i have a highlight on the #archiveteam channel |
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Fusl |
i get a push notification for all messages in there, for a reason |
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Fusl |
and i like it this way |
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godane |
SketchCow: so i'm uploading some stuff that i have not go to upload yet |
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godane |
one called rki AroundTown Audio_People |
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godane |
so more KBS stuff |
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godane |
this stuff is in english and i think is video interviews with radio hosts (not 100% sure) |
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godane |
first video : https://archive.org/details/rki_AroundTown_Audio_People-20041105 |
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godane |
rki is Radio Korea International |
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