[00:12] *** Anthony1 has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:42] https://www.ebay.com/itm/Massive-Lot-Of-Recorded-Blank-Vhs-Tapes-Commercials-Vintage-Programs-Over-60/143218494921 [00:43] that is a bit rich for my blood [00:45] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:54] *** Mateon1 has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:55] *** BlueMax has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 615 seconds) [01:22] anyways i'm back on my 20190319 build of debian testing [01:23] i was able to scan a magazine again [01:26] SketchCow: maybe you should change these language from Jp to Japanese : https://archive.org/search.php?query=language%3A%22jp%22&page=2 [01:27] there is only 402 items with language set to JP [01:28] and 311 of items are from you : https://archive.org/details/@sketch_the_cow?&and[]=languageSorter%3A%22Jp%22 [01:41] *** killsushi has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [02:11] *** Fusl_ has quit IRC () [02:13] *** Fusl_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:27] *** Fusl_ has quit IRC () [02:29] *** fuzzy8021 has quit IRC (Ping 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timed out) [09:20] *** JH88 has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:25] *** nyany has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:26] *** w00dsman has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:28] *** w00dsman has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [09:37] *** dxrt- is now known as dxrt [09:37] *** dxrt_ sets mode: +o dxrt [09:38] *** dxrt_ sets mode: +o dxrt [09:44] Where are these EUMagazineScans coming from? godane ? [10:16] *** Odd0002_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:19] *** Odd0002 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 604 seconds) [10:19] *** Odd0002_ is now known as Odd0002 [10:27] *** Bajoodle has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:31] Hi guys! A quick question related to Warrior and the NewsGrabber project. What kind of servers are suitable for this project? I tried running it yesterday on my server (uploaded about 183GB), however it's basically eating up all CPU power of the server [10:31] Wondering what kind of hardware I'm looking at to get it running without crashing? [10:32] igloo page on line 7 [10:33] SketchCow: ? [10:34] if your talking about the Unedit Japanese Magazine scans i found them on a website with a mega.nz links [10:34] SketchCow: http://randomhoohaas.flyingomelette.com/ai/scans/ [10:35] *** Despatche has quit IRC (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [10:35] if not that i have no idea what you mean by EUMagazineScans [10:37] Bajoodle: Hey! Are you using the warrior or scripts? [10:38] Did you see that I made some changes this morning relating to Docker? [10:39] Igloo: I'm using the warrior [10:39] So; It does that. Basically, Whatever CPU it can get it uses (as it has to do a bunch of CPU intensive tasks; Deduplication hashes files for example) [10:40] However, If you could, run the docker image as it has a fully working youtube-dl, the warrior itself doesn't (but the rest works fine) [10:40] You can then control the concurrency a bit better, I generally go for 1.5 times CPU. But that depends what CPU's you've got. [10:41] I run it on 8 core xeons, i7 & i9 servers [10:50] SketchCow: ok so you got more byte magazines that are OCR and have eu in id name so i'm guess is your asking about that [10:50] Igloo: Oh, I'm running it in Docker on an ubuntu machine. I'll try to start the NewsGrabber project and see how it behaves. [10:51] I see a lot of failed wgetDownload jobs - is there a log for the warrior somewhere as these jobs disappear too quickly for me to see what's going on [10:51] those are not from me if your asking [10:52] the only ocr byte magazine i know of are on vintageapple.org and those files you have are not them [10:55] SketchCow: you may one the byte magazine here also : https://vintageapple.org/byte [10:55] *want [10:56] they have index to pages and ocr [10:57] also 1981-02 issue is 2 pages long then your eu OCR file [10:59] *** erin has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [11:01] Bajoodle: Not really, it's meant to be kinda inactive. The wget failures you're seeing are *likely* to be the -video jobs [11:02] Which don't work in the warrior [11:02] But do work if you run the newsgrabber-warrior as a docker container [11:02] (blame python) [11:02] Igloo: Thanks. Is this what I should be looking into then? https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/NewsGrabber-Warrior [11:03] Yep, https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/NewsGrabber-Warrior/blob/master/Dockerfile [11:03] If you just grab that & ammend the final line [11:03] Igloo: thanks [11:04] concurrency is the number of instances of wpull to spawn (basically) [11:04] *** erin has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:04] So replace X with a value (I'd go for number of CPU's, it'll initially use them all then slow down as rsync and stuff happens) [11:04] replace YOURUSERNAME too [11:04] You don't need to worry about cloning the whole repo then :) [11:23] *** Despatche has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:40] *** BlueMax has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:55] *** Atom has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:56] *** Bajoodle has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [14:16] *** Zerote has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [14:44] *** Fusl sets mode: +oo Igloo ivan [14:53] *** Mateon1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 615 seconds) [14:53] *** Mateon1 has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:04] *** icedice has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:13] *** m007a83 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [16:14] *** Zerote has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:27] *** Verified_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:45] What should do about itunes? [16:45] we [16:46] *** Hani has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 615 seconds) [16:47] godane: Mystery solved [16:47] But thanks for weighing in. [16:54] *** Hani has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:11] *** wp494 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 506 seconds) [17:11] *** wp494 has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:17] *** Mateon1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [17:26] *** Mateon1 has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:27] Anthony1, is anything dying other than the software package? [17:30] abstract: Sketch [17:44] *** Damme has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:43] *** m007a83 has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:47] *** DogsRNice has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:52] astrid: the problem is that none of these channels are active enough [19:53] Despatche: you previously left right before a longer conversation happened in here [19:54] okay? i've been here for a while now. these channels aren't so active to warrant having a separate channel for literally everything [19:54] it's like discord but worse [19:55] You got that the wrong way around. [19:55] there's no need for a channel to be active [19:56] to some extent i agree; it's hard to get a good picture of what archiveteam is up to. i personally direct all the archiveteam channels i'm in to the same window, and color them differently so i can see where a discussion is happening [19:56] but that's a personal choice. [19:56] segregating them to different channels allows for e.g. if someone talks about ftp servers in #effteepee after a few weeks of quiet, it flags in everyone's client that "ftp talk is happening" [19:57] putting archivebot control in #archivebot keeps the noise away from project channels [19:57] etc etc etc [19:57] but there is so little "noise", if you can even call it that [19:57] it seems like an awful lot of work for absolutely no benefit [19:57] by your standards, sure, but not everyone is watching irc all day long [19:58] anyway [19:58] we do it this way [19:58] LOL [19:58] wow, that is some irony [19:58] *** m007a83 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:58] anyway, it'd be nice if there was a system for people who don't watch irc all day long [19:58] yes we have a log bot [19:58] The point is to keep topic-specific discussion in a single location. Otherwise this channel or #archiveteam gets messy almost immediately. [19:59] gets messy with what? the one or two people posting once per hour? [19:59] and if two projects are happening at once, which often is the case, they don't need to stomp on each other [19:59] There are probably some channels that aren't necessary, but usually we try to only create new channels when it becomes necessary, i.e. if more coordination for a particular thing is necessary. [19:59] There are more active channels than that. [19:59] the way project channels are being handled is probably fine [19:59] the problem is these three main channels [20:00] also it allows for the people who are in charge of a project to have some control over who participates in it [20:00] I don't see any problem with that. #archiveteam for short announcements "ohshitohshitohshit, this giant site is going down tomorrow!!". But if all discussion was in there as well, people would miss those. [20:01] there used to be one channel and we had to split it into main and -bs. then there was too much offtopic discussion in -bs so we had to split that into -ot [20:01] this feels stable [20:01] and it has been stable [20:01] Yeah [20:01] it seems like overkill to you because you haven't been here during three concurrent fire drills :) [20:02] so what you're saying is, you expanded the system because of a situation that no longer exists [20:02] it doesn't exist today but it will probably come back soon enough. it comes in waves. [20:02] i mean if you wanna have one channel for archive stuff and one channel for whatever, that's fine [20:02] services tend to get shut down around the end of the fiscal quarter [20:02] nah, things are different now [20:02] discord [20:02] and that was last month [20:02] we don't use discord [20:02] we use irc [20:03] oh, dear, no [20:03] you don't use discord [20:03] discord uses you. [20:04] yeah it doesn't though [20:04] what is your point [20:04] err, i think i've made my point pretty clear, and i think you've made yours... [20:04] ok [20:05] you came in the channel and informed us that we are doing things wrong [20:05] i told you why they are the way they are [20:05] me: "this system doesn't make sense" you: "whether or not it is, we like it all the same" me: "oh. ok" [20:05] yep. [20:05] at least consider merging the main and bs channels [20:06] considered, declined. [20:06] I just explained you why those need to be separate. [20:06] Not everyone reads the chat in real-time. [20:06] ah, there's that irony again [20:06] People who only glance over the chat every few days will never find the relevant announcements in a single channel. [20:06] people not reading chat all the time is why having so many channels is a problem... [20:06] That doesn't make any sense. [20:06] are you going to do anything useful or are you just going to shit on how we have self-organized our work [20:06] that... that's how this works [20:06] that's why discord is such an issue lol [20:07] I still don't understand what your problem is. You agree that the project channels are fine, but you're ranting about "so many channels" which are... two? [20:08] watching people have to repeatedly get reminded that they're posting in the wrong "channel" is immensely depressing, because that's the domain of shithole discord servers [20:08] especially when it's literally a line an hour. [20:08] *"wrong" channel [20:09] if this is really that important to you guys, getting so defensive about it isn't the answer [20:09] Despatche: can you write software [20:09] oh hey, there's more irony [20:10] astrid ivan: please don't proofcall me. there are no meritocracies, and it's precisely because of organizations like this [20:10] I just wanted to know if you could do something useful here [20:10] i wanted to drop it but you're starting to cross the line [20:10] We're talking about #archiveteam vs -bs, right? What would your solution be that doesn't mean that people who only look at IRC every few days miss the important bits? [20:11] Because that's exactly what would happen with a merged channel. [20:11] it really astounds me that you think more channels are *better* for people who look at chat less [20:11] that is the exact opposite of how anything works lol [20:11] Despatche: do you have any archiving things you want to work on? we have projects [20:12] man, look, i just come here to see recent announcements. only reason i even put bs and ot on speeddial is because of this whole situation. i'm obviously not personally invested in having a hundred channels for every little thing, but i sure am invested in seeing that cause issues across discord! [20:13] You miss the point. The people who only look at AT chat every few days don't want to read stuff like this discussion or detailed talk about what a particular site is structured like etc, stuff that we'd currently have in -bs. They want only the most important bits: which sites are shutting down or at risk, etc. [20:13] i miss the point. hooboy. [20:13] this is all completely unnecessary [20:13] Without reasonable arguments, yep. [20:14] without reasonable arguments, yep [20:14] that's why you keep telling me the exact opposite of what's true, i guess [20:14] Uh, no? [20:15] Anyway, this is not productive. [20:24] 20:05 at least consider merging the main and bs channels [20:24] god no [20:24] i have a highlight on the #archiveteam channel [20:24] i get a push notification for all messages in there, for a reason [20:24] and i like it this way [20:28] *** Despatche has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [20:41] *** Sokar has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:13] SketchCow: so i'm uploading some stuff that i have not go to upload yet [21:14] one called rki AroundTown Audio_People [21:14] so more KBS stuff [21:15] this stuff is in english and i think is video interviews with radio hosts (not 100% sure) [21:16] first video : https://archive.org/details/rki_AroundTown_Audio_People-20041105 [21:17] rki is Radio Korea International [21:23] *** godane has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 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