[00:02] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:36] *** fredgido has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:05] brb reconnecting from client [01:07] *** luckcolor has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [01:18] *** luckcolor has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:18] i'm back [01:19] so channel suggestions: #theisolatedartists or ... #theabandonoftheartists ... [01:20] i'm bad with puns if you have better suggestions i'm all ears [01:55] *** Ryz has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:33] I've been doing... things [02:33] So, quickly: [02:34] We had a fiber cut 1.1km from the data center, at a junction box, in Richmond CA (which is different than the Richmond District of SF, which is where HQ is). [02:34] The fiber people took a fucking nap and spent 12 hours before they got someone to fly in and fix it and do the splicing, I expect yelling [02:34] Once they actually showed, they fixed it in about 2 hours. [02:34] Both datacenters (SF and Richmond) stayed up during all this, so some functions stayed going, because they used minor connections. [02:35] We TRIED to shift things to our smaller connections, but as you can imagine, The Archive bandwidth is no small fuckin' potatoes. So TV worked, the rest didn't. [02:35] NEXT [02:35] Webcite is doomed, we should archive it whenever it shows. The guy's a tool. [02:35] And it's basically one guy [02:36] FOS was redirected to Fusl, who took the load while IA's net connection jacked off, thanks to Fusl for doing that. Glad it was relatively short. [02:36] Like everything else, FOS stayed around the whole time, no power outage, just bored as fuck and wondering why it didn't get any good info [02:39] luckcolor: Do what you want, don't ask for permission [02:39] Ask for permission when it leans on resources [02:39] Do all the research you want [02:53] *** benjinsmi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [03:13] *** benjinsmi has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:33] *** d5f4a3622 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [03:35] *** odemgi has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:36] *** d5f4a3622 has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:38] *** odemgi_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [03:38] *** odemg has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [03:41] *** qw3rty118 has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:48] *** qw3rty117 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [03:50] *** odemg has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:14] *** d5f4a3622 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:16] *** d5f4a3622 has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:19] *** yano has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [04:20] *** yano has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:20] *** purplebot has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:21] *** purplebot has joined #archiveteam-bs [05:09] SketchCow: That really sucks. Glad we’re back though. 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[11:17] *** Pixi` has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:18] *** Pixi_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:21] *** Pixi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [11:22] *** Pixi` has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [11:22] or maybe extract mentioned and retweeted profile names from the tweets using snscrape? [11:55] *** killsushi has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [12:03] *** s4y has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [12:10] *** s4y has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:15] Fusl: I believe that followers and followees are only accessible when logged in. So I don't think that's possible. Retweets are also not possible with snscrape since the search doesn't return them. Mentioned users should be possible by using --format '{content}' plus grep, sed, or similar. You could also get users that tweeted at a particular account with snscrape twitter-search 'to:username' [12:16] JAA: wanna add an implementation into snscrape to print all the mentioned profile urls along with each tweet url? would make auto discovery for me much easier [12:17] *** s4y has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [12:27] Fusl: Hmm, I guess I could add something like outlinks/outlinksss for mentioned users and perhaps also the previous user if it's a reply to someone else's tweet. I'll look into that. [12:27] *** s4y has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:48] *** VerifiedJ has joined #archiveteam-bs [13:58] *** yano_ is now known as yano [14:20] *** DogsRNice has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:33] *** WareN2000 has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:33] *** WareN2000 has left [15:14] @JAA I'm helping luckcolor get his project to save the artist union online, hes willing to make the warrior as he has been writing some code in golang, I pointed him to wget-lua [15:15] @Arkiver2 you might want to get in on this as well [15:18] jrwr: this is irc, no @ needed :P [15:18] old habits from Slack [15:19] Sounds good. [16:35] *** godane has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [16:52] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:03] *** Dj-Wawa has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:45] whoops [17:45] i thought this was -bs [17:45] So... bridge? Yes, bridges are often awful, but if we do want to get people on board who use Discord and don't want to figure out IRC, then that might be a viable solution. [17:45] *** archghost has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:46] I'm not convinced we want that though. [17:47] *** DogsRNice has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:47] One thing I want to clear up ASAP is how many channel we've got in discord already: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/23lCYHZV/image.png [17:48] if we're doing this, imo each channel should be linked to an irc channel (other than bot-related shit) [17:48] everything else needs to be deleted [17:48] there will never be enough traffic in any of the infra channels to justify their existence [17:48] #archiveteam, -bs and -ot only [17:48] cc jrwr [18:01] I think bibanon uses a bridge, it seems to work okay for them. I'm a little hesitant on if we want to bridge with a discord server though since it might attract angry people that otherwise wouldn't have been able to figure out IRC. [18:02] If we’re not going for bridging then we will end up with separate communities at some point. [18:03] kicks/bans still work on discord, that doesn't change anything imo [18:47] I'll setup a bridge for the main channels [18:48] Already looked into it [18:54] Im going to bridge archiveteam archiveteam-bs and archiveteam-ot [18:54] setting up a dedicated VPS with Hetzner now [18:54] So, What EFNet server is the most stable right now? [18:56] irc.servercentral.net seems pretty good [18:57] yeah a bridge is a good idea [18:57] i've been to another discord wich used that and it helps [18:58] can you please bridge to the matrix as well? [18:58] Ill look into it as well [18:59] This is what bibanon uses for bridging https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge [19:00] Someone in the matrix channel told me it looks ugly and recommended these instead, i know nothing about them https://github.com/Half-Shot/matrix-appservice-discord, https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc [19:04] jrwr: They're all bad really. Port80 has been pretty stable the last few months. [19:23] *** AT-Bridge has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:24] Hello from Discord [19:25] jrwr: Is it possible to have 1:1 user mapping instead of a dedicated bridge user? [19:25] not in IRC [19:25] but in discord, if your name matches, it will be there [19:30] Well, that sucks. [19:30] its a IRC limitation [19:30] Only possible if you either open a connection to IRC for every user on Discord (bad) or run your own IRC server. [19:30] Ya [19:33] welllllllllllllllllllllllll i know someone who has a server with many ip addresses attached :P [19:33] Ipv6 all the things [19:33] and that [19:34] *** AT-Bridge has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [19:35] *** atbrdg has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:36] I believe that's how matrix-appservice-irc does it :/ [19:37] There’s two modes and yes, one of them creates one connection per user. (Full disclosure: I’m on matrix right now.) [19:37] i tried matrix on weechat but couldnt get it working [19:37] i mean, i have it working now but for some reason i cant join any channels and dont know enough about matrix to figure out why not [19:38] Does it work with, say, the web client (Riot)? [19:38] i guess it would [19:39] I guess the question is: do the admins of the used EFnet server have a problem with it? And the answer to that probably depends on the number of users. [19:39] PurpleSym: for single-person bridges I'm sure it's fine, but I'm under the impression EFNet wouldn't be a fan of someone operating a big multi-user bridge. [19:40] A number of servers don't allow any bots in the first place, so... [19:42] *** WareN2000 has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:42] *** WareN2000 has left [19:42] If there's any servers that block IRCCloud users we can probably rule out those as being options. [19:48] *** atbrdg has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [19:54] *** atbrdg has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:54] *** atbrdg has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:01] *** atbrdg has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:06] *** atbrdg has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:08] *** atbrdg has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:09] lol [20:11] *** atbrdg has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:21] *** atbrdg has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:24] *** atbrdg has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:27] --------------------------------- [20:27] NO CHAT BRIDGES IN ACTIVE ARCHIVE TEAM CHANNELS [20:27] --------------------------------- [20:27] *** atbrdg has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:27] *** atbrdg has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:28] *** atbrdg has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:29] *** atbrdg has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:30] I got it SketchCow, Ill yell at the people who wanted to go up a creek [20:32] The discord is already a 4/10 idea, this would make it a -4/10 [20:55] Fusl: Right now, FOS is doing a number of projects, hence only a few TB free [20:59] It was at 5tb filled, now down to 1.1tb (on Archivebot) for example [21:08] Every time I try to stick my hand into the archivebot uploader, something gets the fuck snapped out of it [21:08] I could take a shot. [21:08] It takes it 2 minutes to upload 5gb. [21:14] OK, I took a shot. There's now an archiveteam surgical uploader [21:14] a what [21:21] A big hammer. [21:22] Also, Discord, No ta, I have enough with work slack, teams, webex teams, skype for business. Then all the phone whatsapp yada yada [21:26] SketchCow: If we don't want bridges (and I agree they're ... not great), then I suggest not starting chats on other platforms. The community split is unavoidable otherwise. [22:12] *** VerifiedJ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [22:28] *** nyaomin has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 615 seconds) [22:30] *** nyaomi has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:42] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:59] ^ [23:06] *** Arkiver2 is now known as arkiver [23:35] I don't like there's a discord [23:35] I can't stop people from having a discord [23:36] What I can do is make the discord be its own thing and say, as always, that #archiveteam on #EFNet and the related channels are the official channels [23:36] And if someone ever goes "but it was on the discord", fffffffffffffffff