#archiveteam-bs 2019-08-17,Sat

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00:09 🔗 Alex_Schm On the Discord I've reported how many YouTube videos which should be accessible through the Wayback Machine (they were in the past) don't seem to be accessible anymore
00:10 🔗 Alex_Schm Instead of giving me a Flash video like they used to, it now just gives me a "Sorry, your
00:10 🔗 Alex_Schm *"Sorry, Wayback Machine doesn't have this video archived." message
00:12 🔗 Alex_Schm On Internet Explorer, this doesn't happen and Flash Player loads, but no movie loads
00:12 🔗 Alex_Schm Do you have any explanation for this? And what can I do about it?
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00:16 🔗 benjinsmi Alex_Schm are there multiple snapshots of the video page? Or can you post which video it is?
00:20 🔗 Alex_Schm OK I'll show you an example
00:21 🔗 Alex_Schm Most snapshots never preserved videos
00:21 🔗 Alex_Schm But some did
00:21 🔗 Alex_Schm This, for example: https://web.archive.org/web/20180627054909/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-Oyyk7I5CI
00:21 🔗 Alex_Schm And this http://web.archive.org/web/20150806232529/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csL2D068RAY#expand
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00:24 🔗 Alex_Schm I can prove that this video used to work given that I Hate Everything included a clip of him using the Wayback Machine to watch this video in one of his videos
00:24 🔗 Alex_Schm https://web.archive.org/web/20160601000000*/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh_1966vaIA
00:26 🔗 Alex_Schm It must be a problem affecting the Wayback Machine in general
00:27 🔗 JAA bluefoo (if you read logs): You can get the tweet contents and a bit of other metadata from snscrape using the --format option. It's currently entirely undocumented though.
00:28 🔗 benjinsmi Oddly, those videos are trying to hit YouTube's actual CDN (not the WBM) for video playback
00:28 🔗 JAA Alex_Schm: We're not the Internet Archive. Have you tried asking IA?
00:28 🔗 Alex_Schm Yeah good point
00:29 🔗 Alex_Schm I just thought you might know what was going on a little better
00:31 🔗 JAA This whole YouTube video playback in the WBM thing has been brought up in discussions many times before, and I've never seen anyone here who had a clue about how or under what circumstances it works or not.
00:35 🔗 Alex_Schm The thing is, they used to work
00:36 🔗 Alex_Schm The infuriating thing is why it doesn't work anymore
00:54 🔗 Alex_Schm "Oddly, those videos are trying to hit YouTube's actual CDN (not the WBM) for video playback" That may be the problem
00:54 🔗 Alex_Schm Also, when I link these videos in Discord an embed pops up
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01:26 🔗 kyonko` this reminds me of webrecorder, if it even exists now
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01:46 🔗 Alex_Schm webrecorder still exists
01:47 🔗 Alex_Schm it looks cool, it could fix many of the problems with archiving
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08:41 🔗 schbirid so, ipv6 let's one quickly change to different "sub" address, right? is that handy for going around per-ip throttling?
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09:25 🔗 Igloo schbirid: it can be yes
09:44 🔗 Flashfire http://team.gotechgames.com:8090/ figured this might be worth archiving
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13:28 🔗 JAA schbirid: Only if the ban is for individual addresses or small subnets. But usually, the bans are for the typical size of subnets given to end users, i.e. /56 or /64.
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