#archiveteam-bs 2019-10-20,Sun

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01:39 πŸ”— Flashfire https://www.zooville.org/threads/security-incident-and-site-rebuild-september-2019.9/ not sure if this is something that archiveteam even wants to touch but saw this on the HaveIBeenPwned Twitter and they are not migrating old content to their new forum
01:39 πŸ”— Flashfire This isnt something I would really want to touch but its up to you
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01:43 πŸ”— Flashfire Figured I would let you know though Personally I would let the filth die
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03:33 πŸ”— xdax so a bunch of weird stuff is happening to television commercials besides adland's shutdown
03:33 πŸ”— xdax youtube's contentid has been deleting things including famous ads for licensed music
03:34 πŸ”— xdax i went to a bunch of advertising awards stuff to have an authoritative list of content to archive but they purged all their stuff even their shortlists up until like the last 10 years
03:34 πŸ”— xdax additionally these awards shows typically just linked youtube content which is now missing on their pages and that stuff is all dead
03:37 πŸ”— xdax there are dedicated sites like adforum which you pay through the nose for a business license to use but some of their content looks like it was ripped directly from youtube and not in the best quality, also their records on some shows only go back to 2001 when the real awards go back to the 50s
03:38 πŸ”— xdax in short, they've been doing this a while, we don't know if anyone is archiving it, we don't even know what's missing if anything
03:42 πŸ”— Flashfire Tubeup The most important videos without going overboard with tubeup
03:42 πŸ”— Flashfire ?
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04:03 πŸ”— xdax yea what defines importance
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04:04 πŸ”— xdax the awards shows removed their own text shortlists of what won every year over 60 years, there's no basis for getting stuff
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04:06 πŸ”— xdax there's at least 100,000 ads missing, i got maybe 6000-7000 on my own, was going to do the super bowls but then adland went down
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04:10 πŸ”— xdax there are showreels rotting in university libraries all over the country that may be the only quality copy of some of them
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04:15 πŸ”— xdax you can't even go directly to the ad agencies because so many got taken over and liquidated over decades
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04:17 πŸ”— xdax dancer fitzgerald sample, cliff freeman & partners, darcy masius benton & bowles, all made well-known content, all gone
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11:15 πŸ”— PurpleSym Who’s running svchoo? It says β€œtoo many channels” when inviting it.
12:01 πŸ”— Kaz tried 1 & 3?
12:01 πŸ”— PurpleSym Both, yes.
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12:08 πŸ”— JAA It's sv*chfoo*.
12:08 πŸ”— JAA And yeah, I think they have a limit of 20 channels each?
12:35 πŸ”— Igloo PurpleSym: invite iglooop1 - Same software.
12:36 πŸ”— PurpleSym Thanks Igloo
12:36 πŸ”— Igloo You're welcome :)
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13:35 πŸ”— paul2520 jodizzle: I had asked a couple years ago about https://about.me/ieda.jonasdottir.herman, and a full crawl of her Instagram and Twitter. Just wanted to follow-up, did that get crawled?
13:35 πŸ”— paul2520 *days, not years :-P
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14:14 πŸ”— Igloo paul2520: Ur let me look
14:18 πŸ”— Igloo Looks like it was done on oct 14th
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20:05 πŸ”— jodizzle paul2520: Yeah, I believe I got all the relevant sites.
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22:13 πŸ”— rabid_squ I've sort of been archiving as much of line rider history as possible manually and by myself for the last 4 years or so http://www.benjaminharveydesign.com/#/line-rider-archival-project/
22:13 πŸ”— rabid_squ probably did a lot of things that were way more time consuming than necessary because I don't have many scripting sills and had no idea resources like this existed
22:15 πŸ”— rabid_squ most significantly it has about 15,000 line rider youtube videos
22:15 πŸ”— delu_ Ryz have you taken a look at the Line Rider Archival project/have any suggestions for tools that can help?
22:15 πŸ”— Ryz That's pretty wild you got there~ o:
22:15 πŸ”— Flashfire Ryz didnt you tell them about Flashpoint yet?
22:16 πŸ”— Ryz I was gonna say it but got distracted by other stuff
22:17 πŸ”— * Flashfire slaps Ryz around a bit with a large trout
22:17 πŸ”— Ryz So delu_ and rabid_squ - there's an archiving project called BlueMaxima's Flashpoint, which is a project dedicated to not only Adobe Flash games, but all kinds of web game stuff like HTML5 being one of the newest, and Java, being one of the oldest: https://bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/
22:18 πŸ”— Flashfire And everything in between
22:18 πŸ”— rabid_squ ooh
22:18 πŸ”— Ryz I've been asking there if there was a running version of Ride Runner in Adobe Flash since the topic of Line Rider brought up in ArchiveBot, and apparently, there's multiple versions of Line Rider to document and archive
22:19 πŸ”— Flashfire Yes There is a Flash Version a Silverlight Version and there may have been a HTML version
22:19 πŸ”— JAA Ooh, a Line Rider archive, nice!
22:19 πŸ”— delu_ (I am the developer of the modern HTML version)
22:19 πŸ”— delu_ (but only started in 2015)
22:19 πŸ”— Ryz And apparently there's a ton of websites dedicated to Line Rider levels that hasn't been grabbed yet
22:20 πŸ”— JAA I don't have anything to contribute right now, but thanks for doing this.
22:20 πŸ”— rabid_squ I have a frankly ridiculous number of builds of line rider archived here https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v0o93a74lypdh9y/AACQbUND2O8ksAH46Bg5JvJga/0_Versions%20_%20Development?dl=0&subfolder_nav_tracking=1
22:20 πŸ”— Ryz eientei95 - any thoughts on this stuff?
22:21 πŸ”— Ryz The operations of the BlueMaxima's Flashpoint project is a Discord server, which is http://discord.gg/S9uJ794
22:22 πŸ”— eientei95 1 sec, let me find where I chucked my notes
22:24 πŸ”— eientei95 delu_: Any idea what this is? http://web.archive.org/web/20100117111119/http://linerider.com/Game/Assets/LineRiderSLImporter.swf
22:24 πŸ”— eientei95 Also in my notes: http://web.archive.org/web/20110408080626/http://linerider.com/Game/LineRiderHunted.swf Line Rider Hunted, v7.39b, sitelocked [promo version for Hunted: The Demon's Forge]
22:25 πŸ”— delu_ prior to me, Line Rider was owned and developed by InXile, and they would sometimes run ad campaigns inside Line Rider, hence the promo version
22:26 πŸ”— delu_ I'm taking a look at SLImporter
22:27 πŸ”— delu_ hold on, I'm on mac and need to find something to run this .swf
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22:38 πŸ”— delu_ eientei95 I can't get it to run properly but my guess is that "SLImporter" stands for "Saved Lines Importer". Line Rider tracks in the flash version were stored somewhere in a flash player support directory in a file called "savedLines.sol", and I'm guessing that this was for importing those save files
22:38 πŸ”— eientei95 Huh
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22:38 πŸ”— eientei95 Sup BlueMax
22:40 πŸ”— delu_ in the flash player days, we usually just swapped "savedLines.sol" files to load other people's tracks. I never heard of this SLImporter version.
22:40 πŸ”— delu_ not a big deal, modern versions of LR are all backwards compatible and can load savedLines.sol files
22:40 πŸ”— eientei95 delu_: Another version that relied on server-side stuff is http://web.archive.org/web/20130803133559/http://www.sparkworkz.com/lrracing/game/LineRiderRacing.swf
22:42 πŸ”— delu_ oh yea Line Rider Racing was a multiplayer version where you don't draw tracks, you just control a rider and race against other players
22:42 πŸ”— delu_ game play vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8RFTX2B8-U
22:45 πŸ”— * BlueMax pets eientei95
22:46 πŸ”— rabid_squ I didn't include line rider racing in my archive because it was associated in name only tbh
22:46 πŸ”— rabid_squ well, and visual theme
22:46 πŸ”— rabid_squ but it wasn't an open ended creative sandbox
22:48 πŸ”— eientei95 Still has the Line Rider name attached to it
22:48 πŸ”— eientei95 same with that Line Rider Hunted promo ver
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23:10 πŸ”— paul2520 thanks jodizzle
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