#archiveteam-bs 2019-11-22,Fri

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00:02 πŸ”— JAA Ok, running now on the actual bucket. S3 behind Akamai apparently doesn't work properly (the marker parameter is ignored).
00:17 πŸ”— JAA wp494: Aah. I was confused why the S3 bucket name includes "raptr". And I knew that sounded familiar.
00:19 πŸ”— eientei95 JAA: If you use the aws command-line tool, you can do `aws s3 ls s3://raptr-replay --recursive`
00:20 πŸ”— JAA eientei95: Nope, I wrote my own script for this a while ago.
00:20 πŸ”— JAA 2.2 million objects totalling 1.8 TB so far.
00:21 πŸ”— JAA (The script: https://github.com/JustAnotherArchivist/little-things/blob/master/s3-bucket-list )
00:23 πŸ”— eientei95 This is the s3 bucket link btw http://s3.amazonaws.com/raptr-replay
00:23 πŸ”— eientei95 if you want to bypass akamai
00:23 πŸ”— JAA Yup, or http://raptr-replay.s3.amazonaws.com/
00:23 πŸ”— eientei95 Yeah, but I think that way is being deprecated
00:26 πŸ”— JAA Nope, the other way around it seems: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/amazon-s3-path-deprecation-plan-the-rest-of-the-story/
00:26 πŸ”— JAA "Support for the path-style model continues for buckets created on or before September 30, 2020. Buckets created after that date must be referenced using the virtual-hosted model."
00:27 πŸ”— eientei95 Oh dang
00:30 πŸ”— eientei95 JAA: http://d1playscdntv-a.akamaihd.net is another akamai mirror to raptr-replay
00:36 πŸ”— JAA Yeah, that's the one that's used on the website.
00:36 πŸ”— JAA And the one I tried to enumerate first until I realised Akamai doesn't pass the marker parameter on to S3.
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00:47 πŸ”— eientei95 Huh, cause I found http://d0playscdntv-a.akamaihd.net first
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00:53 πŸ”— JAA Huh
00:54 πŸ”— JAA Yeah, both are used on the website apparently.
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01:13 πŸ”— JAA The original uploads in that bucket are not publicly accessible.
01:13 πŸ”— JAA What a shame.
01:15 πŸ”— JAA All the video transcodes in the bucket are about 6.2 TB.
01:16 πŸ”— JAA That should be all videos in all resolutions, but not entirely sure.
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01:29 πŸ”— arkiver JAA: are you able to get plays.tv, or do we need a project?
01:37 πŸ”— wp494 An idea: #outplayed
01:49 πŸ”— JAA arkiver: I can definitely grab most of it. The only potential problem could be the actual video files due to the size, but I'm sure I can find a solution for that.
01:49 πŸ”— JAA There are about 250k videos by the way according to the S3 bucket.
01:53 πŸ”— godane so i found something to download flipdocs.com pdfs
01:54 πŸ”— godane example url: https://view.flipdocs.com/?ID=10010717_376158#32
01:55 πŸ”— godane example of pdf url : https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.flipdocs.com/books/10010717/376158/376158.pdf
01:55 πŸ”— godane so you can find the id urls you can download pdfs using scripts
02:01 πŸ”— JAA Since "to play" has the meaning "to have sex": #fucked.tv?
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02:12 πŸ”— JAA Whatever you decide on, create it on hackint please.
02:12 πŸ”— Flashfire https://www.dimmeys.com.au/ Can someone please archive this site
02:13 πŸ”— Flashfire don’t worry I’m not back for long
02:29 πŸ”— eientei95 Flashfire: It was already done 2 and a half hours ago
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06:22 πŸ”— markedL #outplayed | #playedout | #paused.tv
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06:46 πŸ”— LowLevelM What just happened?
06:48 πŸ”— markedL the IRC world split into two
06:56 πŸ”— LowLevelM What does that mean?
06:59 πŸ”— markedL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
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09:47 πŸ”— JAA I like #paused.tv. Or maybe #stops.tv or #stopped.tv.
10:01 πŸ”— markedL all the VCR buttons https://i.stack.imgur.com/jejoz.jpg
10:02 πŸ”— markedL /join #β–  Illegal channel name
10:08 πŸ”— JAA That's interesting, because according to RFC 1459, it can be "any 8bit code except SPACE, BELL, NUL, CR, LF and comma (',')". Not that I'd ever suggest using it though.
10:10 πŸ”— JAA RFC 2812 additionally disallows the colon, but still, β–  should in theory be legal.
10:11 πŸ”— LowLevelM #[]
10:11 πŸ”— JAA Thanks, I hate it.
10:12 πŸ”— LowLevelM #||
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16:04 πŸ”— markedL #<<">>
16:05 πŸ”— markedL interesting, hackint and mzima let me join #β–Ά
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16:12 πŸ”— prq efnet seems to be a lot less forgiving about what it allows.
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16:54 πŸ”— Ryz Facebook engineers to use Visual Studio Code with Microsoft partnership; unsure if affecting how they design their website (and thus our archiving potential on Facebook): https://developers.facebook.com/blog/post/v2/2019/11/19/facebook-microsoft-partnering-remote-development/
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18:38 πŸ”— JAA So uh, my Plays.tv/Raptr S3 bucket scan is still running. It died overnight, but still...
18:39 πŸ”— JAA It's now finding lots and lots of URLs like https://raptr-replay.s3.amazonaws.com/video/AKfxlcxRsHA/processed/720.jpg and I have no idea what those are.
18:40 πŸ”— JAA Looks like YouTube video IDs, but they aren't as far as I can tell.
18:40 πŸ”— JAA But the video IDs on plays.tv have a completely different format.
18:41 πŸ”— JAA I'm at 22 million URLs like that so far, and it's still at "A".
18:42 πŸ”— JAA Not all letters are in use, it only goes up to "I" it seems, but yeah.
18:42 πŸ”— JAA Does anyone have an idea what these might be?
18:48 πŸ”— JAA Ok, nvm, looks like they're more videos. Two different URL schemes appear to be used on the website, one is 11-char YT-like IDs, the others are 18-char hexadecimal.
18:48 πŸ”— JAA In other words, this is going to be a *lot* larger than what I said yesterday.
18:49 πŸ”— JAA Also, the sitemap must be totally incomplete then.
18:51 πŸ”— JAA Figuring out the mapping would be useful. https://plays.tv/video/5d26ea19256685623e/huhuh corresponds to //d1playscdntv-a.akamaihd.net/video/Ivxp_N_olwk/processed/720.jpg but I can't figure out how.
18:53 πŸ”— Prissy_To is now known as CatButts
18:56 πŸ”— JAA I'm at 35.2 million objects totalling 118 TB so far.
18:57 πŸ”— JAA arkiver: ^
18:59 πŸ”— CatButts has left Here is my journey's end, here is my butt.
19:05 πŸ”— markedL what's the letter and digit range on the first hash?
19:08 πŸ”— JAA Hmm yeah, thought it was hex, but from my bucket list, it's 0-9a-z.
19:09 πŸ”— JAA The beginning and end seems to always be hex though; the other letters only appear in the middle positions as far as I can see.
19:10 πŸ”— JAA First 8 and last 6 chars are 0-9a-f.
19:10 πŸ”— JAA The ones inbetween are 0-9a-z.
19:10 πŸ”— JAA Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―
19:10 πŸ”— markedL are they fixed width?
19:11 πŸ”— JAA Yes, always 18 chars.
19:12 πŸ”— JAA Also, they all start with 5d8* to 5dd*.
19:12 πŸ”— JAA Er, actually no, that's the ones that have their files in /media in the bucket.
19:13 πŸ”— markedL it would be great if machine learning can figure these out, because it's not the last time we'll want to figure out a mapping under time crunch
19:13 πŸ”— JAA Looks like those YT-like IDs are for older videos possibly.
19:14 πŸ”— JAA Well, we'd need a sizeable collection of matching codes then though. Don't have that (yet).
19:14 πŸ”— JAA I only have the 18-char IDs for newer uploads and the 11-char ones for older ones.
19:14 πŸ”— JAA That example above I just took from the website.
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19:55 πŸ”— HP_Archiv JAA, this site http://gb64.com/ has not been archived yet. It's a Commodore 64 Game archive. Can you please throw this into archivebot?
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21:24 πŸ”— arkiver JAA: hah, so that's not going to be a one man job :P
21:25 πŸ”— arkiver JAA: any idea what the total size might be?
21:27 πŸ”— HP_Archiv Hm
21:28 πŸ”— HP_Archiv How would I even begin to determine that?
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21:49 πŸ”— VoynichCr What public repositories are getting archived?
21:49 πŸ”— VoynichCr On February 2, 2020 at 2 pm PT, we will begin snapshotting all of GitHub’s public repositories that have been active within recent months. Additionally, a team of chosen experts and advisors will identify important inactive projects to be added to the archive. To ensure your repository is included, update your repository, clean up your README, and push a commit sometime before February 2.
21:49 πŸ”— VoynichCr https://archiveprogram.github.com/faq/
21:52 πŸ”— godane lastest digitize magazines : https://www.patreon.com/posts/digitize-for-11-31777981
21:55 πŸ”— VoynichCr "Due to the nature of the GitHub Arctic Code Vault and other cold storage, it is not possible for the public to access the code stored there. However, if you go to the GitHub Archive Program website once the data is stored, we will tell you how to figure out where your data is stored"
21:56 πŸ”— godane so i'm up to 160tb
21:56 πŸ”— godane thats how much i have uploaded
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22:46 πŸ”— HP_Archiv Anyone have any ideas for size estimation for the site I linked above?
22:56 πŸ”— markedL someone has to do a partial discovery crawl to get a list of IDs, followed by a partial grab perhaps randomized to estimate the average size of a unit
22:58 πŸ”— markedL it does say, Entries: 26900
23:00 πŸ”— markedL actually most entries say, "We do not host this gamefile on our server,"
23:02 πŸ”— markedL it might just be html pages with an offsite ftp link
23:04 πŸ”— HP_Archiv If that's the case, then you could crawl all the outlinks, correct?
23:09 πŸ”— markedL ftp predates my time here, but looks like the listing is viewable directly ftp://8bitfiles.net/gamebase_64/Games/l/
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23:11 πŸ”— Fusl__ sets mode: +o dxrt
23:11 πŸ”— Fusl sets mode: +o dxrt
23:11 πŸ”— Fusl_ sets mode: +o dxrt
23:11 πŸ”— svchfoo3 sets mode: +o dxrt
23:11 πŸ”— svchfoo1 sets mode: +o dxrt
23:22 πŸ”— markedL the avg size of a file under L is 32KB
23:23 πŸ”— markedL 26900Γ—32 kB = 861MB
23:34 πŸ”— HP_Archiv Well JAA mentioned that it's not a one-person operation
23:35 πŸ”— JAA arkiver: Once the S3 crawl finishes, I'll have one.
23:35 πŸ”— markedL depends on the person
23:35 πŸ”— arkiver JAA: alright
23:35 πŸ”— arkiver JAA: do you perhaps have a very rough estimate?
23:35 πŸ”— JAA Nope, not yet. No idea how many videos there are so far.
23:36 πŸ”— JAA It doesn't help that S3 keeps running into internal errors, which crashes my crawl.
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23:45 πŸ”— HP_Archiv JAA, so you can handle http://gb64.com/ ?
23:46 πŸ”— JAA HP_Archiv: Yep, looking into it now.
23:46 πŸ”— HP_Archiv Awesome, thank you
23:46 πŸ”— JAA arkiver: We don't have a channel for Plays.tv yet, right? I think I like #stops.tv most of the suggestions so far.
23:52 πŸ”— markedL Not to side track, I was able to get these symbols into a channel name, #▢⏹⏏⏺⏭
23:52 πŸ”— JAA lol
23:53 πŸ”— JAA Nice, but not going to happen. People need to be able to type the name so they can join without copy-pasting etc.
23:53 πŸ”— markedL apparently that last one is called fast forward to end
23:55 πŸ”— markedL keyboards have media keys now days but I guess that wont work, ok, carry on
23:55 πŸ”— JAA Yeah, but media keys are for media control, not to type those symbols.
23:57 πŸ”— JAA And while you can technically type any symbol (e.g. using Ctrl+Shift plus the unicode codepoint on many (all?) Linux distros), the vast majority of people won't know how to do that or would need to look up the symbol first.
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