#archiveteam-bs 2019-12-29,Sun

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00:14 🔗 atphoenix A tip for creating additional email addresses for projects that need them: some ISPs (e.g. Comcast) allow their customers to setup additional users, each with their own email accounts. These users accounts can setup with restricted permissions so they can't change anything with the ISP subscription. For Comcast, it appears that up to 6 accounts can be active at any single point in time. Deleting and creating new accounts is
00:14 🔗 atphoenix possible if certain email addresses are no longer needed. More: https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/adding-new-user-names-or-email-addresses
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00:47 🔗 HP_Archiv markedL, yeah I didn't submit anything this morning, so I haven't touched it yet. Will wait for him, thanks
03:23 🔗 JAA Has anyone here ever wanted to grab YouTube live chat or comments? Well, now you can. I wrote three little tools to do just that with qwarc.
03:23 🔗 JAA - Comments: https://git.kiska.pw/JustAnotherArchivist/youtube-comments
03:23 🔗 JAA - Live chat (of a currently running stream): https://git.kiska.pw/JustAnotherArchivist/youtube-livechat
03:23 🔗 JAA - Live chat replay (of a finished stream): https://git.kiska.pw/JustAnotherArchivist/youtube-livechatreplay
03:25 🔗 JAA ("currently running stream" does not necessarily mean there's actual video currently being streamed; upcoming streams can also have live chat.)
03:27 🔗 JAA All of these only grab the actual data and produce WARCs. There is no extraction of the comments in a usable form or similar, it's all in ugly YouTube JSON.
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03:58 🔗 Raccoon JAA: If you want to make a few money bucks, you might write a YouTube bot framework for responsive automation, thanking for dollars, banning for spam, etc. The Twitch and Discord community pays money dollars.
03:59 🔗 nicolas17 would the YouTube community appreciate it as much as the Twitch community?
04:01 🔗 Raccoon I think yes. People have higher expectations of chat behavior on YouTube I think, while Twitch tends to be rather roudy. They might appreciate some auto-ban scripts.
04:02 🔗 nicolas17 I hang out in more wholesome Twitch channels ig
04:02 🔗 Raccoon Also something to alert the stream host of favorite people who have donated to the stream before, or are patreon members
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04:03 🔗 Raccoon a windows chat client with host featuers
04:04 🔗 JAA Raccoon: Thanks for the suggestion, but hell no. I hate the entire ecosystem with a passion. I only wrote those things to get data out of it, but I won't invest time in that kind of thing. Not to mention that such bots are much more complicated than emulating the browser retrieving chat/comments (authentication etc.) and quickly get banned when not using the proper API. In any case, this doesn't
04:04 🔗 JAA belong in here.
04:05 🔗 Raccoon ok :)
04:05 🔗 nicolas17 and then there's the whole mess of advertising and getting people to pay for your thing
04:05 🔗 JAA -ot this
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04:33 🔗 atphoenix Another way to get additional email addresses for accounts that need them: https://support.mail.com/email/settings/aliasaddresses.html
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05:17 🔗 Kaz Tracker coming back online.
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06:03 🔗 atphoenix is archivebot able to save outlinks?
06:04 🔗 jodizzle atphoenix: Yes
06:04 🔗 jodizzle To a depth of 1
06:05 🔗 jodizzle Er, by that I mean it doesn't recurse any further on the outlinks
06:18 🔗 atphoenix so would that be equivalent to WBM SPN + Save outlinks?
06:32 🔗 jodizzle atphoenix: Not sure if it would be equivalent, since I don't know all of WBM's behavior. But with respect to a single page, yes, it would grab that page, its page dependencies, then all the links on that page, and the page dependencies of those
06:32 🔗 jodizzle To be clear, this is with the '!a' option in archivebot, not the '!ao' option.
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07:21 🔗 atphoenix basically the goal is to grab all the linked images (like cover art) for a given set of URLs on 8tracks.com
07:22 🔗 atphoenix rewording: to grab the mix pages and the cover art images of those pages
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08:37 🔗 Somebody2 JAA: nice work on those scripts! Are they mentioned on the wiki somewhere yet?
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16:30 🔗 JAA Somebody2: Nope, haven't added them to the wiki. They're still very new and not tested very well yet. Also, they're based on qwarc, which still doesn't have a stable API/CLI (which is also why there is no minimum version number mentioned in the README). So if added to the wiki, they should definitely be marked as experimental or similar.
16:42 🔗 JAA A note on the livechat tool: I just used this last night to capture the chat of an ongoing stream, and it seems to have worked fine. There is no clean way to stop it though (e.g. for streams that are running forever), and when the chat ends, it stops with a possibly confusing "Could not find continuation data on continuation X" error.
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19:32 🔗 Somebody2 JAA: cool makes sense
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