[00:04] *** qnicw has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:06] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:08] *** qnite has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [00:14] arkiver, the Intel driver purge you worked on in late 2019 and USPTO purge happening tomorrow something that belongs on Deathwatch? These are partial website purges rather than full, so I'm not sure. [00:15] seems to fit in along with stuff like 'Gfycat is deleting old anonymous uploads with few views.' [00:16] Yes, fine to add these since both are quite well-known/important organisations. [00:16] Also, check your PMs. [00:39] *** bluefoo has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:44] *** atbk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [01:02] *** bluefoo_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:08] To summarize: Photobucket claims to have had a power outage on the 18th. Due to (they seem to imply) filesystem corruption and the like, they continued to have problems after power went back up. Many photos are still (as of ~1 hour ago) unavailable, and references to them behave as if they were never created. [01:10] *** DigiDigi has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [01:11] This is after some changes and backtracking the last 3 years as (it looks like) they try to stop losing money hosting embedded images on other sites for free [01:16] *** DigiDigi has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:20] *** bluefoo has quit IRC (Quit: bluefoo) [01:23] *** qnisz has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:24] *** qnite has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:28] *** qnicw has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:29] *** qnisz has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:30] Assuming that they're not lying and that this was just a power outage (& that this doesn't turn out to be the first domino), it looks to me like the categories of long-term threat from Photobucket are 1. if its change to a paid service doesn't make/hasn't made it profitable, and it shuts down altogether; and 2. if it moves completely to paid hosting and removes all free-hosted images [01:37] *** qnicw has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:38] *** qnicw has quit IRC (Connection closed) [01:40] *** qnite has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 496 seconds) [02:00] *** qnicw has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:03] *** bluefoo has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:04] *** bluefoo has quit IRC (Client Quit) [02:25] *** X-Scale` has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:25] *** qnisz has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:25] *** qnisz has quit IRC (Connection closed) [02:31] *** qnicw has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [02:34] *** X-Scale has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [02:34] *** X-Scale` is now known as X-Scale [02:41] *** DogsRNice has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [02:42] *** DogsRNice has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:21] *** atbk has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:28] *** DogsRNice has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [03:55] *** HP_Archiv has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:04] *** qw3rty2 has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:13] *** qw3rty has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [04:21] *** SoraUta has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:46] *** HP_Archiv has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:56] *** odemgi_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:59] *** odemgi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [05:07] *** odemg has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [05:11] *** odemg has joined #archiveteam-bs [06:05] Datechnom: The new tracker I am working on should not run out of memory. It will use an actual database. [06:06] I just don't have enough help :/ [06:07] That would be much better LowLevelM. Thought there were a few people working on it atm? [06:07] Nope, just me, with some help from ivan [06:07] And, someone closed my project wtf [06:09] Oh. moved to issues. I see. Whoever did that, thanks :) [06:09] NVM, I was looking at my own repo *Facepalm* [06:14] haha lol awkies [06:14] :P [06:15] Here is the stuff that needs to be done for anyone intrested https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/Universal-tracker-2/projects/1 [07:52] *** d5f4a3622 has quit IRC (Quit: https://i.imgur.com/xacQ09F.mp4) [07:52] *** d5f4a3622 has joined #archiveteam-bs [08:09] *** jmtd is now known as Jon [08:20] *** OrIdow6 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [08:46] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:40] *** LowLevelM has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:02] *** coderobe has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:42] *** yano_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:43] *** yano has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:44] *** tsr has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [10:57] *** Nick-PC has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:01] *** tsr has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:03] *** HP_Archiv has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [11:35] *** sHATNER_ is now known as sHATNER [11:36] *** benjins has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [11:36] *** tuluu has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [11:36] *** tuluu has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:38] *** benjins has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:25] *** BlueMax has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:08] there are tracker port efforts besides LowLevel who is attempting a rewrite in python. [14:42] *** tuluu has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [14:43] *** tuluu has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:44] a not-too-important feature request for an updated tracker: list position # next to name on the leaderboard . Then I don't need to re-request the leaderboard with 'show up to 500/600/700/etc' to estimate position. [14:54] *** SoraUta has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:06] *** wyatt8740 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 360 seconds) [15:13] most tracker discussion is in #archiveteam-dev on hackint.org [15:20] atphoenix: Re re-request, you're probably referring to the URLTeam tracker, and that's a completely separate system that probably won't be replaced anytime soon. The normal (non-URLTeam, "universal") tracker does not have this 'show X users' thing, only either showing the top 20 (?) or all users. [15:22] But yeah, a number either next to or in a `title` for hovering over a username would be good. [15:26] yes, URLTeam tracker is what came to mind with that field. [15:39] sorry for the confusion- but to be fair the mix up of trackers in this thread started in the first post [15:59] *** Wingy has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:05] A couple of new tracker ideas that might be helpful: the ability to limit the number of warriors that receive a project and the ability to limit a project to specific regions (by IP address) [16:10] The former is (mostly) a warrior thing, not a tracker one. [16:36] *** yano_ is now known as yano [16:40] *** qw3rty has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:40] *** qw3rty2 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [16:48] *** LowLevelM has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:52] *** qw3rty has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [16:56] *** qw3rty has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:27] I see there are parallel channels on hackint for several AT channels. If one is more 'official' than the other, it'd be good to note which one is preferred in the channel topic so as to consolidate conversations [17:32] some people are wanting to move from efnet to hackint. hackint is newer. [17:33] i don't yet understand the politics [17:33] some people on hackint are no longer on efnet [17:34] On hackint: https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:JustAnotherArchivist/hackint_vs_EFnet [17:35] I prefer the stability I've seen with hackint vs the netsplits I've had on EFnet. But those can be mitigated by all of us joining the same EFnet server. [17:37] i've never woken up the next day, cursing the productivity losses of yesterday's netsplit. [17:40] I don't like out of order or lost messages as they disrupt conversation flow [17:50] *** Sora_Uta has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:52] *** SoraUta has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [17:54] *** Sora_Uta has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [17:55] *** Sora_Uta has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:56] *** Sora_Uta has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:57] *** SoraUta has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:17] ancient Windows shareware: https://archives.scovetta.com/pub/simtelnet/win3/util/ [18:18] by somebody with similar goals https://archives.scovetta.com/ [19:05] *** SoraUta has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 622 seconds) [19:16] arkiver, see discord, make SketchCow aware of the shit, need to start shoving it into IA if you're going to take it there's a lot of volatility and failure lately and I'm shitting the bed at the possibility I may lose such a large and unique archive. [19:16] ideally need a box at IA I can shovel 2-4TB/day into and have it processed from there, full thing is going to be no less than 500TB [19:23] initial push is going to be 50TB as that's what's currently in staging, following that 2-4T/day (y) [20:08] arkiver: did you look at blackberry stuff any further? I started grabbing JSON details for apps from https://appworld.blackberry.com/cas/content/680 [20:10] But the ids seem to have a huge gap, got up to 271658 and I think a lot of those are invalid [20:11] and glancing at the homepage there's one with id 39184920 [20:16] Looks like the last valid id was 138255 [20:29] odemgi_: what's in the archive? [21:00] *** godane has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [21:07] *** Damme_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:22] *** Atom__ has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:28] *** Dallas has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [22:13] atphoenix, Raccoon: EFnet is the more official one for now. That doesn't mean stuff isn't happening on hackint in those channels though. [22:13] ++ [22:24] JAA: what ircd does hackint use? /quote version [22:24] Why don't you just check? [22:24] irc.hackint.org ? [22:25] Yes, port 6697 with TLS. [22:25] I mean, why aren't you on there already anyway? :-P [22:26] hmm. some buttplug has my nickname registered [22:26] this will not do [22:27] yeah that's the bummer with services [22:27] people can take your name even if they aren't there [22:27] you said bummer [22:28] Also means your nick doesn't get stolen during a disconnect. [22:28] And hackint expires registrations after a year of inactivity, or sooner if you ask nicely. [22:28] yeah, but who really has time for that. really doesn't happen anymore. [22:29] but to answer my question; at least they're using charybdis ircd [22:29] I'm pretty sure someone tried here a while ago. It was very obvious though because they didn't fake it very well. [22:29] none of that unreal / inspircd nonsense [22:30] Yep, unfortunately version 3.5.x, not 4.x, which adds some nice IRCv3.2 features. [22:32] at this point, it's kind of weird to call new features 'ircvX.Y' anymore, given that CAP works as a cafeteria buffet [22:37] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [22:37] odemgi_: thanks [22:37] *** OrIdow6 has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:38] handling it [22:39] True, and there won't be IRCv3.3 and up anymore for exactly that reason. [22:39] But I'm talking about features like echo-message, which were added in 3.2. [22:42] SootBectr: no, project is not ready uet [22:42] SootBectr: going to try and get it going today! [22:52] *** SoraUta has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:55] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:57] SootBectr: so no actual app URLs yet right [22:57] looks like that needs a registered/activated account [23:01] All the download button does on the website is send your device a message (email?) that opens the appstore app. [23:05] Wireshark showed me the url my phone downloaded an app from but there's an authkey involved http://appworld.blackberry.com/ClientAPI/file2/21670577?dwnAuth={10 digits}_{32 chars, so I guess md5} [23:10] *** Wingy has quit IRC (The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) [23:10] *** Wingy has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:11] *** Wingy has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [23:11] *** Wingy has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:27] *** nicolas17 has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:31] is the authkey the same every time? [23:31] SootBectr: ^ [23:32] and also the same acorss different apps downloading to the same device? [23:36] I tried two apps and the 10digit part stayed the same but the md5 changed [23:38] The download also worked in a web browser once the useragent was set appropriately, but it gives an error now so might be time limited [23:39] the 10 digits are still the same for when the one giving the error now was valid? [23:39] the same as now [23:42] This is a URL in my notes from yesterday, so the query string is still the same [23:42] I'll test a few more [23:43] with the phone. [23:48] *** atphoenix has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [23:48] *** atphoenix has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:49] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:50] thanks [23:50] so is S3 having a problem [23:50] yeah [23:50] ok then [23:50] it's being worked on [23:51] so its not my new linux build [23:51] S3? [23:52] the system used to upload to internet archive [23:53] not AWS S3 right? [23:53] ah I ese [23:53] see [23:53] there's an S3-compatible API [23:57] SootBectr: do you get a /download2/ URL?