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[05:51] *** thuban2 is now known as thuban [06:02] *** tomG__ has quit IRC (tomG__) [06:30] *** wyatt8750 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [06:37] *** wyatt8740 has joined #archiveteam-bs [06:39] *** wp494 has quit IRC (Quit: LOUD UNNECESSARY QUIT MESSAGES) [06:51] *** Mayonaise has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [06:52] *** Mayonaise has joined #archiveteam-bs [06:52] *** wp494 has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:31] *** nicolas17 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [08:44] Nintendo has sued romuniverse.com for 1 billion dollars [08:46] *** LowLevelM has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [08:48] Aoede, source? [08:50] HP_Archiv: https://www.pcmag.com/news/nintendo-sues-romuniversecom-for-game-piracy [08:50] and related video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOqfn6vrlJU [08:51] Well, not quite as up to the moment as I hoped, nor are they 'suing for a billion dollars' [08:51] Millions, not billion [08:52] I'm not seeing billions in any legal literature or reference, even though the video says billions... [08:53] oh yeah, still a ton of money [08:56] Yup. Nintendo has inadvertantly put itself in a position of promoting piracy - if they won't spend the money necessary to build out an entire arm of their corporate business dedicated to the preservation of their cannon of what are now considered culturally significant objects, the public will. [08:59] Going on 35+ years now, nobody then though these things would be culturally significant. Then again, I challenge anyone to seek out a creative process - be it film making, painting, writing, other, etc - where the creator incorporates archival thought into said process. eg; it's like asking a famous painter to only paint on acid-free paper, incorporating archival standards in their work from the get-go. It just doesn't happen [08:59] like that [09:00] Thanks for sharing, Aoede [09:38] This is why we need sane public domain laws. Renew copyrights every x years, with exponentially increasing renewal fees each time renewed, esp item reverts to public domain. Low value items won't get renewed. High value items will get renewed until the fees are not worth it. [09:38] else item, not esp item [09:54] This ^^ agreed [10:02] *** swebb has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:05] *** swebb has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:12] *** BlueMax has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [10:18] *** Smiley has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:26] *** Smiley has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:50] *** jesso has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:50] *** jesso has quit IRC (Client Quit) [12:32] *** DiscantX has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [13:18] *** ThisAsYou has quit IRC () [13:18] *** ThisAsYou has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:50] *** Ryz has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [14:50] *** kiska18 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [14:51] *** kiska18 has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:51] *** Ryz has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:51] *** superkuh has quit IRC (Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilaye) [14:51] *** jrwr has quit IRC () [14:51] *** svchfoo3 sets mode: +o kiska18 [14:51] *** svchfoo1 sets mode: +o kiska18 [14:51] *** jrwr has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:54] *** Maylay has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:00] *** Maylay has quit IRC (Quit: Pipe Terminated) [15:00] *** Maylay has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:00] *** Maylay has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection!) [15:01] *** Maylay has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:12] *** superkuh has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:34] *** Wingy has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [15:45] *** Wingy has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:29] *** MaximeleG has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:53] *** DogsRNice has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:56] *** icedice has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:09] *** _niklas_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:17] *** _niklas has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [17:56] *** tech234a has quit IRC () [17:56] *** tech234a has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:24] *** MaximeleG has quit IRC (Quit: MaximeleG) [18:51] I wish Nintendo would stop being the way they are with regard to copyright enforcement [18:52] so hardnosed and hostile [18:52] *** VerifiedJ has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:53] unlike with trademarks, they do not have to do this to keep their copyrights. it's entirely up to them if, how, and when they target infringement. correct me if I'm wrong. [18:53] i believe that copyright and trademark both need to be defended to be kept [19:00] I do not think that is the case for copyright, but I can't find anything to back this up [19:06] *** marked1 has quit IRC (The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) [19:06] *** asdf0101 has quit IRC (The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) [19:07] in fact from what I can tell, there's no explicit requirement to enforce trademarks either. It's just that if they become "generic" terms, then the trademark may no longer stand up in court. Lack of enforcement alone does not cause this, but enforcement can prevent it [19:09] my throwaway opinion: As I understand copyright, it provides legal rights to creators, which they can do with as they please (sell them, use them, give them away, or ignore them) [19:13] *** asdf0101 has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:14] romuniverse.com homepage offers me current Switch games, not at all surprising Nintendo would go after them. [19:15] ah [19:15] *** marked1 has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:18] that makes a bit more sense [19:31] *** systwiAL_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:40] *** systwiALT has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:46] *** yano_ is now known as yano [21:13] *** Wingy has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:24] I LOVE WHEN PEOPLE DISCUSS LAW [22:25] It's so breathtaking, so innovating. Finally, this understudied field of "can ROMs?" gets the light and attention it deserves [22:30] it's one of those things that's fun to speculate about, though useless :p [22:37] https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3047933/china-coronavirus-youtube-and-twitter-show-realities-life [22:38] *** foureyes has quit IRC (Quit: brb) [22:39] https://www.scmp.com/tech/policy/article/3047900/chinese-netizens-take-advantage-rare-opportunity-vent-anger-social [22:41] *** foureyes has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:47] I find it 100% unfun to speculate about [22:52] i find it tiresome [22:53] *** HP_Archiv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 610 seconds) [22:56] *** HP_Archiv has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:05] *** Silvan has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:05] *** SilSte has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 186 seconds)