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OrIdow6 |
(Going off of wp494 in #archiveteam, my initial impressions of the Leaue of Legends forums & boards) - The forums, which have been in read-only mode since October 6, 2014 (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4909234), are here http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/ |
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OrIdow6 |
The boards are here https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/ - some boards are not listed in the sidebar (requires JS to see), e.g. https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback?sort_type=recent |
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OrIdow6 |
There are several of what I look like continent/region names in the domains - among these are na, euw, oce, and pbe - looks like these are separate sites with separate sets of posts |
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wp494 |
League has different login regions that accounts are bound to |
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accounts can be transferred between regions, but for an RP fee |
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SHOULD BE MENTIONED: PBE is a beta environment where things are tested prior to being released to the live game; it functions similar to Dota 2 test/Blizzard PTRs/etc |
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OrIdow6 |
wp494: Do you know if this list (https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751684-League-of-Legends-Servers) + pbe is comprehensive? |
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OrIdow6 |
To quote my script, "Total is 8748215" threads on the forums, as long as I haven't made any mistakes there |
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Some regions, namely southeast Asia, are outsourced to Garena, but for all Riot-controlled regions yes |
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There is a Riot-controlled Korea region but I'm not too sure what the deal is with that one and why it's otherwise excluded from that list |
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Garena regions are as follows: Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines, Taiwan, Vietnam, Thailand |
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(but given that it's Garena infrastructure I'm reasonably sure they wouldn't have their own boards regions, doesn't hurt to check but I doubt it) |
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https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Servers looks like it includes the other ones, then |
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Doesn't look like any of those new ones have forums |
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There is a hole of ~10000 thread IDs at the beginning of "lan"'s space |
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In addition to the division by region, and obviously the division into subforums and threads, there is a level directly under region consisting of language |
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In some regions (e.g. jp), there is only one |
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What languages are listed is determined through JS - I don't want to look into it right now |
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I'm talking about boards there - forums have 1 language per region, as far as I can tell, & I use "subforum" in the context of boards to refer to the groups of threads that I think may be properly called "categories" |
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if AB is used on a big forum, I suggest feeding AB !ao lists of thread URLs that are spread across multiple AB jobs so they can run in parallel. (This assumes that each AB job is the rate-limiting factor, and not the forum site. Disregard this if a dedicated project effort is in the works that uses qwarc or other means that don't have AB's limits.) |
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atphoenix: wouldn't that mean stuff past the first page of a thread wouldn't be grabbed? |
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hook54321, that depends on how the thread URLs are provided to !ao |
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I'm suggesting that every page of every thread be fed as a separate line item to AB via a list. That still will require figuring out how long each thread is, but that presumably can be determined by looking at the first page of each thread. |
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it might make more sense to qwarc it or run it outside of archivebot with over 6 concurrency |
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I did mention qwarc. That parallel AB idea may be more 'accessible' for cases where people don't know how to setup qwarc for a custom project. |
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OrIdow6 |
Threads are indexed by sequential numbers, should be easy enough |
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Pitfalls are 1. the "hole" in numbers I describe enough, which I think has a good chance of being replicated in other regions &/or other places 2. some non-OK HTTP status code (rate limiting?) that my script encountered at one point, even though it was a valid thread |
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OrIdow6 |
*describe above |
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