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04:06 🔗 decanted Heya, https://www.uptodate.com/ is free right now due to beer virus, I indexed the pages they have available and I was wondering if y'all might be able to help with pulling all the individual pages (they limit per IP I think)
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16:26 🔗 random-ni hello, anyone heard about streamable deleting videos?
16:27 🔗 random-ni apparently they're planning on deleting inactive videos for free users
16:27 🔗 random-ni or something similar
16:29 🔗 Kaz gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
16:29 🔗 Kaz got a link?
16:32 🔗 random-ni Kaz: they don't seem to have any sort of blog or news section
16:33 🔗 random-ni but they changed their pricing out of the blue and people got emails that their inactive videos will be deleted soon
16:37 🔗 JAA They mention in the FAQ that free users' videos are deleted after 3 months of inactivity. That was added sometime between March 2018 and February 2019: https://web.archive.org/web/diff/20180318021922/20190204215936/https://support.streamable.com/frequently-asked-questions
16:38 🔗 JAA They don't define "inactivity" anywhere, but I guess it means no accesses/playbacks?
16:39 🔗 random-ni there's some discussion in the reddit thread
16:39 🔗 random-ni https://www.reddit.com/r/Streamable/comments/frvgx5/you_have_1_video_that_will_be_deleted_soon_which/
16:40 🔗 random-ni the thread is 12 days old
16:43 🔗 JAA There are ~2.2 billion possible shortcodes on Streamable, so bruteforce is feasible.
16:44 🔗 JAA Shortcodes are [a-z0-9]{1,6}
16:45 🔗 random-ni is the "pending deletion" label only for the owner of the video?
16:47 🔗 JAA API: https://api.streamable.com/videos/moo
16:47 🔗 JAA Documentation is poor: https://streamable.com/documentation
16:47 🔗 JAA Auth isn't required at least for that endpoint, it seems.
16:48 🔗 JAA ("moo" is the shortcode there, obviously.)
16:49 🔗 JAA Newer uploads have more files in there: https://api.streamable.com/videos/hwa6l
16:50 🔗 JAA Maybe the value of the status field has some meaning regarding pending deletions, but yeah, undocumented.
16:55 🔗 random-ni hm, randomly poking values I found a 2 month old video with 1 view
16:55 🔗 random-ni but no pending deletion tag
16:57 🔗 random-ni wait no, that's just the title of the video
16:57 🔗 random-ni there's no upload date
16:57 🔗 JAA Yeah, I don't think it's possible to see the upload date, except perhaps for the uploader. At least I've never seen it on any Streamable videos.
17:07 🔗 random-ni apparently only the owner of the video can see if it's pending deletion
17:08 🔗 random-ni I don't think it's feasible to back it up
17:08 🔗 random-ni there's potentially a lot of videos on their site
17:17 🔗 JAA I'd guess it's very roughly a similar size as Gfycat, so should be feasible in principle. The question's just whether we and IA want to devote the required resources for that.
17:18 🔗 JAA ("very roughly" = ± an order of magnitude)
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21:58 🔗 lennier1 Someone on the Reddit thread mentioned suddenly getting 106 "pending deletion" videos that were uploaded at very different times. So maybe they've just started enforcing the policy, or have changed their definition of inactive.
21:59 🔗 lennier1 Do you have examples of videos that show up as "pending deletion" vs. not for the uploader? Then maybe we could figure out something in the API.
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