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godane |
SketchCo1: i'm going after the older podcasts of Joe Rogan |
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godane |
pattern url is different |
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jason0597 |
what are people's reccomendations for a filesystem to put on an archival drive? |
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what is the nature of the drive and archive. ie, if you're using removable portable 2.5" USB drives primarily or exclusively on Windows systems and they're just write-once-read-many purpose... I'd go for FAT32 (2TB) or exFAT. |
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Raccoon |
the most system compatable filesystem is FAT32, and works on almost all embedded devices. |
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jason0597 |
it's cold storage normal hard drive |
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jason0597 |
brand new 2TB |
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jason0597 |
yeah i was thinking of exFAT |
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Raccoon |
keep whatever it's got if it's already FAT32. exFAT if you want to use your built-in Windows OS formatter software. You'll need third-party software to format FAT32 on anything larger than 32 GB, even though 2TB is supported. |
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i was thinking of just running mkfs.exfat on it |
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i run linux |
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Raccoon |
not all embedded equipment, ie, photo kiosks and smart TVs, support exFAT. Some do. |
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Raccoon |
well, photo kiosks are more likely to support exfat. smart tvs not so much |
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jason0597 |
i don't think i'll hook this SATA drive onto a photo kiosk or a smart TV ever |
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Raccoon |
when I think of "archive" i think of "what will work on almost everything in the uncertainty of 20 years from now?" |
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jason0597 |
ohh i'm not that worried about it |
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jason0597 |
i was thinking of plugging it into a PC every year to check if it's still alive |
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Raccoon |
but either of the FATs are great for cold storage |
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and maybe migrate to a new drive every 5 years |
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Raccoon |
aka write-once-read-sometimes |
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JAA |
Although Microsoft finally released the exFAT specification last year, it's still patent-encumbered. Personally, I'd probably use ext2 or ext4 depending on the file size requirements. |
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JAA |
(And other factors, obviously.) |
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sure, if you absolutely don't want it to read on Windows |
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JAA |
:-) |
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Raccoon |
when i think of "archive" i also think of public libraries, and 98% of public libraries are windows-only |
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JAA |
Yes, and that's a mistake. |
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it is |
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but it is what it is and it be what it be |
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jason0597 |
what? how are they windows only? |
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how do you make a PDF windows only? |
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Raccoon |
visit your public library |
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All their computer systems tend to be Windows-based. |
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JAA |
There are few exceptions. |
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err i don't think i can relate as a greek |
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i don't even know if we have computers in the public libraries in greece |
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lol |
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Raccoon |
side note. this is the only windows softare that formats FAT32 on large harddrives. http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm |
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Raccoon |
i don't know what *nix software formats FAT32 on large disks |
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JAA |
Any libraries that do digital archiving? |
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JAA |
To be fair, those are more open to using Linux since a lot of the tools for web archival are based on it. |
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s/based on/built for/ |
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Raccoon |
to be fair, non super-west countries (often poor countries) are very pro-Linux |
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Raccoon |
so they're ahead of the game |
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yes it helps to not pay microsoft fees |
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Yes, but they also tend to not have a lot of funds for large-scale web archival either. |
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jason0597 |
though if a country does try to get ahead of the game, bill gates will fly over there in his private jet and give them a 95% discount |
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see south korea and.... belgium i think also tried? |
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Turks are still using Windows XP last I heard |
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everyone does it |
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largely due to the language and unwillingness to switch to UTF8 |
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just no one admits it |
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XP is still widely used in at least the health sector. Military probably too. |
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japan is also craaaaaaaaaaazy for windows XP |
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Anyway, this is getting into -ot territory. |
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i can't do -ot :'( |
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but enjoy |
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ok so i'll just use exFAT |
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