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icedice |
Does Internet Archive have a decent chance of not being shut down by those book publishers? |
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icedice: The only people that know the answer to that are the lawyers. |
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:( |
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:( |
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The optimist in me hopes that they consulted their lawyers when they launched the NEL in the first place |
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You know, the publishers aren't obligated to sue anybody. They chose to |
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so they're assholes |
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copyright isn't "use it or lose it" |
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icedice |
Even law enforcement uses Internet Archive, so I don't think they can shut down Wayback Machine, at least |
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Frogging |
icedice: well, if Internet Archive is bankrupt, there's nobody to host it |
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Frogging |
unless it gets bought |
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icedice |
Shit, you're right |
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or bailed out by either the government or a private entity |
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icedice |
The current administration does not seem like the type who would bail out an organization of immense cultural and informational value |
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Frogging |
couldn't tell ya |
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I'd tend to agree, I don't have much faith in the government to make good decisions in that area |
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Frogging |
but I don't know enough to have a proper conversation about it, so yeah |
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Frogging |
hope everything works out, regardless |
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icedice |
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Hopefully the publishers don't want to destroy Internet Archive, just force a settlement regarding book sharing. |
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lennier1 |
They have a decent argument regarding lending out one copy of a book per each copy they own, but I don't see US courts blessing unlimited lending. |
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I don't think the Wayback Machine should get taken down because of a separate program |
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Would it be possible to separate them into separate legal entities? |
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icedice |
A new one for everything except digital lending and book scanning |
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icedice |
And Internet Archive for digital lending and book scanning |
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You’d have to uh.. ask them |
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