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Maybe they could have separated, but I don't see how they'd do it after the alleged infringement. As far as I know, it was all run by a single nonprofit organization at the time. |
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icedice |
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icedice |
But if they didn't transfer any of Internet Archive's money into the new legal entity and instead made all future donations go there then it could maybe be shielded to allow them to continue to operate the Wayback Machine and the downloads that aren't books in case the court case doesn't go well |
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I'm sure there are some very knowledgeable and experienced people working on this that are considering all the legal options, we'll just have to wait for them to do their thing ^^ |
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SketchCow: i noticed you have not uploaded the last 4 vhs rips i uploaded to FOS |
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godane |
i'm surprised that you have not uploaded them cause they was upload back on may 23 |
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godane |
anyways letting you know |
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Frogging: Yeah, true |
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pie_ |
is there an outline of infrastructure somewhere |
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pie_ |
or are most things largely ad-hoc |
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JAA |
pie_: https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Dev/Infrastructure gives an overview at least for DPoS projects, but everything else is pretty much undocumented. |
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pie_ |
on one hand thanks, on the other hand, eek |
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pie_ |
i love the diagram |
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pie_ |
only thing missing is the dog |
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pie_ |
unrelated, is there any way to browse this data https://tracker.archiveteam.org/tumblr/ |
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JAA |
It's all in the Wayback Machine. |
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JAA |
Other than that, not really. |
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Frogging |
pie_: A "hidden" reality of ArchiveTeam is that archiving (downloading and storing data) is really only half the battle, the other half is making the data useful |
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Frogging |
:p |
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Frogging |
There's the Wayback machine, but it has its limitations. |
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Frogging |
All the data from ArchiveTeam grabs is accessible through Internet Archive items though (right, JAA?), so Wayback is not the only way to access it, but it's the easiest when its limitations are acceptable |
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Frogging |
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_tumblr |
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Frogging |
from https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Tumblr |
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Frogging |
making custom viewers for data sets like this would take some engineering, but I believe it's possible |
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JAA |
Yes, all our stuff should be accessible. |
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JAA |
There were indices for some old projects so that you could easily download the data corresponding to a particular tracker item, but when Jason(?) asked about this here a couple years ago, nobody remembered how they were generated. And that hasn't existed for anything recent. |
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JAA |
Custom viewers should be feasible but are definitely a lot of work. |
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pie_ |
Frogging: right |
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pie_ |
data you cant meaningfully access is not really helpful |
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pie_ |
(including some manner of search) |
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pie_ |
so IIUC there should be 8pb of tumbler on IA? |
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JAA |
That's true for most of the WBM though. You need to know the URL to find any content, basically. |
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pie_ |
right |
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pie_ |
its correct but it doesnt help xd |
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JAA |
They've been talking about a full-text index + search for years, but at the scale IA is operating on, it's ... not easy. |
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pie_ |
yeah definitely would be problematic |
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pie_ |
even file name dumps would be something for starters, or idk :/ |
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JAA |
That can be done for our stuff. Not for the other data in the WBM though, most of which isn't publicly accessible. |
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JAA |
It would still be quite large though. |
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pie_ |
more manaable than 8pb :( |
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JAA |
We certainly didn't archive 8 PB of Tumblr, and I doubt IA did either. |
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pie_ |
then IDK how to read the list I linked :D |
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pie_ |
doesnt it say the top guy did >7000GB |
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pie_ |
wait im dumb |
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pie_ |
so 70TB |
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pie_ |
thats much better but still problematic |
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