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Hello! I came across the "Montreal Mirror archives, 1997-2010" on archive,org, and am wondering if there is a way to index the .warc to find a certain word, instead of having to look through every page. |
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OrIdow6 |
Tigris.org only has a few hundred repos |
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OrIdow6 |
Looks like it's time for me learn SVN now |
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nicolas17 |
svnsync |
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JAA |
svnrdump |
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JAA |
I'll grab all repos. |
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JAA |
At least I've always used svnrdump and saw that recommended in several places before. |
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JAA |
Oh, some of it is CVS. Eww |
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JAA |
E.g. http://xanta.tigris.org/source/browse/xanta/ |
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JAA |
It appears that the site has 3.2 million forum posts as well. |
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JAA |
Yeah, this is going to be a huge mess. |
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JAA |
nicolas17: Any idea about svnrdump vs svnsync? I'm not really familiar with SVN, but I've been told that svnrdump preserves the most information. |
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nicolas17 |
oh, that's possible yes |
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nicolas17 |
I never used svnrdump |
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JAA |
Fun, there's also a project "www" which obviously breaks things as it collides with Tigris's main website. |
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JAA |
Well, not "break" but behaves differently than everything else. |
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JAA |
nicolas17: Might be interesting to run svnsync on a repo and svnrdump on both the original one and the mirror to see whether there are any differences. |
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JAA |
Well, seems it requires a decent amount of understanding how SVN works to create a repo to which you can svnsync, so I won't do that now. |
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JAA |
Currently grabbing all the source info pages to get an idea how many svn vs CVS repos there are. |
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JAA |
Does anyone have any idea what the correct way of archiving a CVS repo is? |
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JAA |
So there are 666 projects in total on Tigris, including the odd "www" one. 374 of these use SVN, and 290 use CVS. This is off by one because http://mgc.tigris.org/ has no repository anymore: http://mgc.tigris.org/source/browse/mgc/ |
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JAA |
Here are the 954 (374 + 2 * 290) commands from all the /source/browse/<project>/ pages: https://transfer.notkiska.pw/160MrR/tigris-checkout-commands |
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JAA |
On a completely unrelated note, the ARM documentation will disappear by June 30. I threw it into ArchiveBot earlier. infocenter.arm.com is running fine, but developer.arm.com/docs ran into something (no idea what) that set a cookie switching to an "edit mode" which redirects everything to login pages. They claim that the content will be migrated with redirects and all, but the new site is JS hell and |
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JAA |
pretty much unarchivable. |
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JAA |
So that requires some action as well. |
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godane |
so tubeup is failing hard right now |
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godane |
end up just uploading metadata when i can't upload any files |
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godane |
then it uploads the .part files sometimes |
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godane |
feels like have to watch over this program to make sure it give IA the right data instead of junk incomplete data now |
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HP_Archiv |
godane: .part files usually are the result of ytdl not finishing a download, not tubeup |
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HP_Archiv |
Also, don't bother with tubeup unless you don't mind the no-index of content |
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godane |
i only use tubeup cause its japanese language and i don't know the name |
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godane |
its just easier that way for now |
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OrIdow6 |
JAA: If the redirects are frequent enough, hopefully it would be possible to figure out what sets the cookie (assuming there's only one) once the log is uploaded |
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OrIdow6: I looked at the log file already and didn't see anything obvious. |
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JAA |
Hmm, looks like Tigris's CVS repository is dead. My connections are timing out. |
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JAA |
The SVN repositories are directly accessible as open directories, so it might be possible in principle even to archive them as WARC and have `svn checkout` from the WBM work, maybe. |
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JAA |
I'm not going to look into that though. |
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nicolas17 |
what do you mean by open directories? link? |
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JAA |
You can browse the directory structure. E.g. http://ado-mock.tigris.org/svn/ado-mock/ |
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JAA |
But it doesn't actually expose everything (e.g. past revisions) and doesn't really matter anyway regarding capturing SVN's HTTP requests in WARCs. |
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JAA |
At first I thought it would be as simple as doing a recursive crawl of that. |
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nicolas17 |
'svn checkout' over HTTP uses a special protocol, you can't serve it as plain files |
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JAA |
Right |
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JAA |
Do you know where that protocol is documented? |
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nicolas17 |
it used to be WebDAV-based, I think there's now a new protocol that doesn't need a zillion requests so it doesn't kill you with latency |
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godane |
latest scans : https://www.patreon.com/posts/digitize-for-06-38448509 |
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