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endrift |
Hm. Is it finally time for me to make a wiki account just to vote on the move? |
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endrift |
I've not bothered asking for the magic word because I haven't had anything major to contribute to the wiki yet :P |
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Arcorann |
Couldn't hurt |
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voltagex: Did you make any progress on Samsung XR since it was discussed? |
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OrIdow6 |
(Video site, shutting down at the end of next month) |
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OrIdow6 |
(I wrote a script many months ago that downloads the video but does not attempt to do anything warc-related - if answer is "no", could just add "upload to IA" on to that) |
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endrift |
oh voltagex is in this channel? I need to bother them about a bug they filed on some software I wrote years go :P |
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endrift |
*ago |
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kiska |
endrift: Don't need magic word anymore |
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endrift |
oh? |
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kiska |
https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/2818729cdc38316c/image.png :D |
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kiska |
You just get a different hex string to convert |
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kiska |
So instead of magic word, we have a mod system |
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endrift |
my hex string was super short for whatever reason |
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kiska |
Meh :D |
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endrift |
wow those...those "stay on EFNet" arguments sure look like Jason was struggling to come up with reasons |
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endrift |
as opposed to anything inherently obvious |
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endrift |
(no offense Jason, I just don't think they're very persuasive reasons :P) |
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Arcorann |
It looks like the move to Hackint is all but decided now |
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hackint is great :) |
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SketchCow |
I added myself to the EFNet side |
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SketchCow |
Take that, you fucks |
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SketchCow |
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/2074/production/_108980380_gettyimages-519873917.jpg |
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SketchCow |
https://flashbak.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Hippy-Squat-PA-5581080.jpg |
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SketchCow |
Here's images of JAA leading me out of EFNet |
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superkuh |
Most IRC clients in the set of all clients made won't be able to join hackint because they won't have tls v1.3 support. |
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superkuh |
Even being a decade old is enough. |
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According to the Hackint website v1.2 is still supported |
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Yeah, in fact, TLS 1.3 support was only added a few months ago on my request (more or less). 1.2 won't be dropped anytime soon, and a system that only supports 1.0/1.1 will already be crippled today and broken in the near future anyway as web browsers have disabled it and will remove it sometime soonish. |
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Perhaps. But I'll be one of the people that won't be able to join because of it. |
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superkuh: What OS and version are you using? |
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Ubuntu 10.04, custom 3.0.0 kernel and x.org. xchat 2.8.6 |
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superkuh |
It is *just* starting to be a problem with the web browsers I can run. But only very rarely. |
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superkuh |
Most websites rolled back on their security theater after the pandemic showed how many people using sites run old crypto. |
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Wow, that's ancient. |
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And unsupported since 5-7 years... |
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Yup. And running software you can't run on a modern OS. |
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Like all the gtk1 applications. |
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Why not VM the stuff that really needs the ancient system and use something more modern, updated, supported as the main system? |
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I do have more modern boxes running newer OSes but I haven't been able to get them running exactly as nicely as the old setup. A matter of taste. |
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Anyway, there are weird people like me out there, no matter how unjustifiable my position is. |
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Right |
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Well, I've asked hackint staff for confirmation of their position on TLS 1.2, but I strongly doubt there are any plans to discontinue using it unless security issues are discovered and it gets deprecated across the internet in general. |
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Will let you know when I hear back. |
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Yeah. I was wrong the versions. Which means this box doesn't even do 1.2, or there's no cypher overlap, or something. |
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I used to be on hackint. |
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TLS 1.2 was released in 2008, come on... |
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superkuh |
It really should work then. Hm. |
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superkuh |
maybe this is pebcak. |
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Alright, thanks, I see if it really is me. |
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Another option to try might be recompiling XChat with a more recent OpenSSL version. |
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Oh, I've tried. :| |
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Yeah, directly using openssl s_client -connect irc.hackint.org:6697 -debug and forcing versions shows no tls1_2. Guess I'll die. |
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superkuh: if you have a server (running even more up-to-date sw, if you intent on glacial even centos would work), an option might be to run a bouncer (like znc) without TLS, or with whatever TLS you want to support for yourself. |
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superkuh: If you don't mind switching to HexChat (the fork of XChat after development stopped), even the earliest release after the fork (2.9.0, from July 2012) can be built with OpenSSL 1.0.1 according to the changelog. |
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Heh, ninja. |
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Or if you don't, maybe you can backport the relevant patch(es) to XChat. |
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you probably know, but it bears repeating that with this setup you're going to run into more and more issues as the rest of the internet turns back on you. |
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Unfortunately hexchat requires more modern glibc than I can get compiled and linked on this ancient setup. I do appreciate the suggestions though. Yeah, a bouncer or something will probably be the route. |
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Or why not both? Set up a bridge from efnet to hackint. |
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With how unstable EFnet is, a bridge will never be reliable. |
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You can static compile things to the point that it will run superkuh |
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but it wont be GUI, irssi is the best you could hope for |
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Sure. I've spent tens of hour hours setting old old openssl built static, glibc attempted to build static, etc. |
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I can get, say, my tor binaries to build with the new openssl but getting xchat to, nope. And hexchat has the glibc thing that that is even more complicated than openssl to build static. |
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So far it's only hackint and dn42 that exclude older ssl as far as moderate size IRC networks go. |
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Well, that's not completely true. Others do, but they also offer plain text connecting. |
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