[01:09] *** systwi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 622 seconds) [01:11] *** systwi has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:20] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:22] *** Craigle has quit IRC (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) [02:58] *** wp494 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [02:59] *** wp494 has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:03] *** qw3rty_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:05] *** Craigle has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:10] *** qw3rty__ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [03:14] JAA: Changed [03:16] Cheers [04:17] *** tonsofpcs has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [04:35] DOJ antitrust suit against Google coming soon https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/21/technology/google-antitrust-justice-department.html [04:36] "The case is expected to focus on the company’s search business, and whether the company used its dominant search position to block rivals and harm consumers, according to some of the people ["four people with knowledge of the plan who spoke on the condition of anonymity"]. The suit may also accuse the company of anticompetitive practices in the ad tech market, but that part of the investigation hasn’t been as fully [04:36] developed as the case on search, the people said." [04:37] As you'd expect, origin of this thing is entirely political, so what exactly will come from it is indeterminate now [04:38] *for now [04:48] The origin is political? Elaborate [04:49] *** tonsofpcs has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:50] To quote the article, "The investigations into Google are part of a larger backlash against the market power of tech giants, including Facebook, Apple and Amazon. With Google, all four are the subject of an investigation by the House Judiciary Committee, which may produce a report as soon as this month. The Justice Department has also been investigating Apple, while the Federal Trade Commission pursues possible cases against [04:50] Facebook and Amazon." [04:51] But afaict this isn't too partisan - Democrats seem to have been supporting this sort of thing too [04:53] Including (as I understand) in their promotion of the aforementioned committee hearings [04:56] The archival implications seem minimal. The search can't really be archived, and the ads only partially where embedded. I doubt it would affect other products much (cf. the Microsoft antitrust case 20 years ago). For the politics discussion, -ot. [04:59] My interpretation of "used its dominant search position to block rivals and harm consumers" was the way that e.g. Google Translate shows up as the first result for "translate", so that could have archival implications if they just get rid of the offending products rather than changing their search results [04:59] Don't know how likely that is, though [05:07] When Microsoft got sued, they didn't destroy IE either, so I doubt that. As long as it makes Google money, they'll keep a service. 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