Time |
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00:02
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shaqfu |
Off-topic, but dear God it's hard to get in touch with state libraries |
00:02
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shaqfu |
5-7 days for reference :( |
00:05
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chronomex |
one does not complain about offtopic in the offtopic channel |
00:05
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chronomex |
sounds like A-class bureaucracy |
00:05
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shaqfu |
The offtopic is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding offtopic |
00:06
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shaqfu |
I'm just hoping I don't forget to alter the state name in my canned question |
00:07
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chronomex |
heh, what are you working on? |
00:07
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shaqfu |
Someone asked the archives listserv if there's a list of dates of incorporation of every US city |
00:07
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shaqfu |
And there isn't |
00:07
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chronomex |
that sounds like a lot of work. |
00:08
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shaqfu |
I suggested scraping Wikipedia for it, but it's really spotty - only about 50% coverage |
00:08
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chronomex |
extant cities or all cities ever incorporated? |
00:08
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shaqfu |
Extant for now |
00:08
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shaqfu |
Let's keep this sane |
00:08
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chronomex |
hehehe |
00:08
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chronomex |
you might be interested in a friend of mine's project |
00:08
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shaqfu |
Esp. since I want to toss it into a map and see if anything interesting comes out of it |
00:08
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shaqfu |
e.g. cities following rivers/railroads/interstates |
00:08
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chronomex |
http://everydot.com/ |
00:08
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chronomex |
he photographed every named place in north dakota |
00:09
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chronomex |
the website says 300, which is wrong |
00:09
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shaqfu |
Amazingly, there's one other guy trying a project like this |
00:09
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shaqfu |
He's a goddamn *city astrologer* |
00:09
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chronomex |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/afiler/collections/72157602918645986/ |
00:09
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chronomex |
wat |
00:09
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chronomex |
what is a city astrologer |
00:10
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shaqfu |
You can buy his database ($50) and see when your city was born and if it aligns to your celestial signs |
00:10
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chronomex |
whoa |
00:10
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shaqfu |
http://garybrandastrology.com/city/CitiesOrder.html |
00:10
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shaqfu |
He's also insanely incomplete |
00:10
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shaqfu |
New Jersey alone has 566 incorporated places |
00:12
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shaqfu |
And wow, that's an impressive project |
00:12
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chronomex |
there's a neighborhood in seattle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgetown,_Seattle which was a city for 6 years, just barely missing census enumeration by 2 weeks |
00:13
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chronomex |
so it was an actual city that never made it onto the census tallies; I wonder how many other similar places exist |
00:13
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shaqfu |
That's why I'm avoiding the census |
00:13
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shaqfu |
A lot can happen in ten years, esp. with westward expansion |
00:13
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chronomex |
but you're focusing on currently-extant places :) |
00:13
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shaqfu |
True, but I'd like to be more granular than decades |
00:13
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chronomex |
censuses are good for establishing outer bounds for existence |
00:15
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shaqfu |
True |
00:17
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shaqfu |
Still, it'll be nice to see year-by-year expansion vs. a whole bunch of towns popping up in 1880 |
00:18
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shaqfu |
With my luck, I'll get this, feed it into a map, and see nothing interesting come out of it |
00:22
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shaqfu |
Oh, speaking of silly projects of mine - do you know of any sources for tracking down old HyperCard ebooks? |
01:09
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chronomex |
shaqfu: hmm, no idea. |
01:10
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shaqfu |
I'll bother balrog next time he's on |
01:26
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chronomex |
I can't believe that okcupid's distance options are "anywhere", "within 100 miles", "within 50 miles" and "within 25 miles" |
01:27
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chronomex |
like, seriously, I live in a place with people, I don't want to go more than 5 miles to get laid |
01:30
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yipdw |
neat line to open my client on |
01:30
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chronomex |
:) |
01:31
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chronomex |
I aim to surprise and confuse |
01:42
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Coderjoe |
iirc, the tiger data sees updates more frequently than 10 years |
01:43
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Coderjoe |
though it won't really give you incorporation dates |
01:55
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shaqfu |
I don't think there's a reliable national source; otherwise I'd probably see it on wikipedia |
01:55
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shaqfu |
Instead of the piecemeal that's there |
02:34
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shaqfu |
Fucking sigh; no such resource for Ohio. Am I crazy enough to email 88 local clerks, y/n |
04:45
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chronomex |
y |
04:46
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shaqfu |
All this just to prove a point |
04:51
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chronomex |
sometimes the best projects were started to prove a point |
04:53
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yipdw |
GNU, for example |
05:00
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chronomex |
I suppose you're right |
05:00
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chronomex |
hadn't thought about that before |
05:01
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shaqfu |
Someone asked on the archives listserv if such an index existed |
05:01
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shaqfu |
Of 20 responses, 19 were fossils saying no, 1 was me going "no, but you could probably build it without much work" |
05:01
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shaqfu |
"without much work" is starting to haunt me :( |
05:01
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chronomex |
hehehe |
05:02
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chronomex |
"without much work" is a very flexible phrase |
05:03
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shaqfu |
I hoped that, by good fortune, it was all on Wikipedia and I could trivially scrape it |
05:03
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shaqfu |
And for the ~18 that are, I can trivially scrape it |
05:03
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shaqfu |
For the 30 that aren't (fuck AK/HI)... :( |
05:04
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chronomex |
well alaska only has 10 incorporated places anyway, right? |
05:04
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shaqfu |
Probably |
05:06
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shaqfu |
"The population was 0 at the 2000 census" |
05:06
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shaqfu |
What the hell Alaska |
05:08
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mistym |
Where is this? |
05:08
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mistym |
"The population was 0" is not something I read about places often |
05:08
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shaqfu |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine,_Alaska |
05:08
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mistym |
That is such an Alaskan town name. |
05:11
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shaqfu |
I applied for a job in Alaska because it paid insanely well |
05:11
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shaqfu |
But given that you have to drive to Anchorage every time you want to buy something... |
05:12
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mistym |
I don't think I could live that way. |
05:12
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shaqfu |
The way people do it is buying huge tracts of land, buying a prop plane, and flying around |
05:12
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shaqfu |
Plenty of room to land |
05:12
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mistym |
At least it paid well? I've seen jobs in Canada in northern Ontario communities paying pittances. |
05:13
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shaqfu |
Oof |
05:14
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chronomex |
yeah if you're going to live in the middle of nowhere, they better pay at least enough to buy shit off amazon |
05:14
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shaqfu |
And get destroyed by shipping |
05:16
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Coderjoe |
and being isolated from people, or with little to do but drink. high speed internet? hahahaa |
05:19
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Coderjoe |
and then you can work on writing a book. but i doubt publishers will buy a book full of "all work and no play makes jack a dull boy" |
05:19
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shaqfu |
High-speed caribou |
05:19
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shaqfu |
You'd be living Northern Exposure |
05:21
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mistym |
High-speed caribou is the next-gen version of IP over avian carriers |
05:23
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shaqfu |
You can use salmon, but while having fantastic up speed, they're useless down |
05:23
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mistym |
ha! |
14:10
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DFJustin |
starting to put up episodes of Pasokon Sunday (Japanese TV show about computers from the 1980s) http://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22Pasokon+Sunday%22 |
14:40
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SketchCow |
How many episodes? |
14:41
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DFJustin |
only around a dozen |
14:42
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SketchCow |
I can make a collection |
14:43
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DFJustin |
it ran weekly for several years so there ought to be hundreds but there just seem to be home vhs copies |
14:48
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SketchCow |
Well, let's hope more show up |
14:48
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SketchCow |
http://archive.org/movies/thumbnails.php?identifier=pasokon-sunday-emulation-soft is an adorable set of thumbnails |
15:07
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DFJustin |
on the plus side you get the commercials |
16:35
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underscor |
I like old commercials |
16:37
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Schbirid |
so good http://archive.org/details/BEVLARA01 |
16:57
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Schbirid |
is there a common saying for "(positively) anxiously awaiting your reply"? |
16:57
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Schbirid |
for email |
16:57
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Schbirid |
colloquial |
16:58
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mistym |
Compulsively hitting the reload button, |
17:00
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shaqfu |
Schbirid: Just "looking forward to your reply" is fine |
17:01
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Schbirid |
perfect, haha |
17:24
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Schbirid |
oh, ouch. avfs serving a 15GB tar.gz will eat a "bit" of cpu if files are accessed :(( |
17:24
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Schbirid |
load average: 5.12, 4.77, 4.76 |
17:25
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Schbirid |
well, poop |
17:45
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DFJustin |
whoah microfiche score |
19:35
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winr4r |
oh no, load averages above 1! |
19:35
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winr4r |
this means your scheduler is doing its job! |
19:36
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winr4r |
good evening, folks :) |
19:36
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winr4r |
DFJustin: do explain :D |
19:37
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DFJustin |
https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles |
19:40
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winr4r |
DFJustin: holy god |
19:40
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winr4r |
i've been busy all day so i missed that but holy god |
20:34
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SketchCow |
https://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/white-trash-repairs-you-know-how-youre-always-bugging-me-to-change-the-toilet-paper-roll1.gif |
20:38
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yipdw |
haha |
20:38
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yipdw |
I need one of those |
21:40
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mistym |
http://ubiktune.org/releases/ubi044-various-artists-soundshock-2-fm-funk-terrror Some glorious FM tunes here |
21:53
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DFJustin |
hey that netlabel isn't on archive.org |
21:54
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DFJustin |
what gives |
22:43
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pzuraq |
SketchCow |
22:57
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SketchCow |
Yes |
22:58
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pzuraq |
joepie sent me. Apparently you have a project, sound interesting. |
22:58
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pzuraq |
need help? |
23:02
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SketchCow |
Which project? |
23:04
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pzuraq |
Let's Just Solve the Problem Month? |
23:05
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Nijaxor |
an wild joepie91 and pzuraq appear! |
23:05
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joepie91 |
ohai |
23:05
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SketchCow |
Oh yes |
23:05
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joepie91 |
SketchCow: I told him that I *thought* that was your post |
23:05
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joepie91 |
but not sure |
23:05
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joepie91 |
:p |
23:05
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SketchCow |
That's mine. |
23:05
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SketchCow |
The question is what you rousted him NOW for. |
23:06
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SketchCow |
It's in november, and we're doing some rough plans in the wiki right now for how we'll progress and what resources exiust. |
23:06
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joepie91 |
SketchCow: I didn't really, actually.. I just sent the article and said 'person X on network Y can probably explain more' |
23:06
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joepie91 |
:P |
23:06
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joepie91 |
on that note, is there already an (early) list of what kind of things will have to be done? |
23:07
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pzuraq |
If I have time and you throw small tasks at me I'll be able to help |
23:07
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pzuraq |
got experience with html/css/php/js |
23:08
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pzuraq |
would like to help with pre-planning |
23:08
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pzuraq |
if not, just rouse me when november comes round |
23:09
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pzuraq |
I will be in here :) |
23:09
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SketchCow |
Get ye on the wiki |
23:09
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SketchCow |
http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Just_Solve_the_Problem_2012 |