#archiveteam-bs 2012-08-31,Fri

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01:59 ๐Ÿ”— arkhive balrog_: will DiscFerret support Osborne 1 CP/M 2.2 floppy disks?
02:02 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex arkhive: I'd be super surprised if it didn't
02:02 ๐Ÿ”— arkhive alright
02:10 ๐Ÿ”— arkhive what does AT think of Omniflop?
02:16 ๐Ÿ”— arkhive it supports a ton of formats.
02:42 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh osborne 1 cp/m 2.2 disks are what format on the media?
02:42 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh FM? MFM? M2FM?
02:42 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh df will read any of those, the issue is decoding
02:42 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh by read i mean 'make a binary representation of the flux on the disk'
02:43 ๐Ÿ”— Lord_Nigh decoding the magnetic flux into data is a whole nother story
03:35 ๐Ÿ”— godane looks like the vt100.net/mirror is very big
03:35 ๐Ÿ”— godane i have 7gb so far
03:35 ๐Ÿ”— godane and its still growing
03:48 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe wtf
03:48 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1615794
03:48 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe seems so stupid
04:17 ๐Ÿ”— shaqfu Stunned it's not just $SDPATH or w/e
04:59 ๐Ÿ”— godane do anyone know how big vt100.net mirror is?
05:17 ๐Ÿ”— godane uploaded: http://archive.org/details/vt100.net-20120830-mirror
05:45 ๐Ÿ”— godane so i got a mirror of forums.nesdev.com
05:46 ๐Ÿ”— godane i'm checking the dump with warc-proxy
06:59 ๐Ÿ”— godane some else can do vt100.net/mirror
06:59 ๐Ÿ”— godane its over 10gb for me
07:00 ๐Ÿ”— godane there is very little chance for me to upload that in one go
07:12 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe shaqfu: the problem I have is that they divided the internal flash between a system partition and a data partion, and named the data partition /sdcard, moving the real removable sdcard to /sdcard-ext. nevermind all the programs that had been previously written to use the /sdcard path.
07:13 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe shaqfu: the result is that some stuff isn't on the removable card, and apps don't seem to be finding their data on the sd I used in my previous phone
11:49 ๐Ÿ”— godane i should have mirrored pdroms.de yesterday
11:49 ๐Ÿ”— godane there is a database error on it now
12:18 ๐Ÿ”— godane uploaded: http://archive.org/details/forums.nesdev.com-20120830-mirror
12:43 ๐Ÿ”— balrog_ godane: I've worked with the maintainer of pdroms to keep backups
12:43 ๐Ÿ”— balrog_ also, nesdev.com รขย€ย”ร‚ย use the tarball on the homepace
12:43 ๐Ÿ”— balrog_ homepage*
12:43 ๐Ÿ”— balrog_ or zip rather
12:44 ๐Ÿ”— balrog_ "Please do not download copies of the site via programs like wget or SiteSucker. Please download the weekly archive mirror instead"
12:44 ๐Ÿ”— balrog_ I believe that contains the forums but I'm not totally sure
12:45 ๐Ÿ”— godane i download the forums cause it needs to be in warc format for the way back machine
12:46 ๐Ÿ”— godane anyways thats a one time snapshot form me for them
12:47 ๐Ÿ”— balrog_ seems pdroms is down... and I'm not sure where I have the password...
12:47 ๐Ÿ”— balrog_ gonna have to take care of this
12:50 ๐Ÿ”— godane also the zip on nesdev.com doesn't have the forums
12:50 ๐Ÿ”— balrog_ hrm, they should fix that.
12:51 ๐Ÿ”— godane its 5gb+
12:52 ๐Ÿ”— godane when compressed i maybe 1gb+
12:52 ๐Ÿ”— godane *it
13:24 ๐Ÿ”— alard godane: About the large warc files: I assume you've seen wget's --warc-max-size option?
13:25 ๐Ÿ”— alard If you haven't, it might help to keep the file sizes down in some cases.
13:36 ๐Ÿ”— balrog_ alard: does that cause warc files to be split?
13:37 ๐Ÿ”— alard Yes. It will create a numbered set of warc files. Once a warc file becomes bigger than your limit Wget will start a new file.
13:37 ๐Ÿ”— balrog_ ahh, ok cool
13:37 ๐Ÿ”— alard So it's something like: wget --warc-file mywarc --warc-max-size=100M
13:40 ๐Ÿ”— alard However: it doesn't split anything, so if you download one 10GB file you still get a 10GB warc.
13:42 ๐Ÿ”— balrog_ ok
14:52 ๐Ÿ”— godane alard: is there a way to continue downloading a warc file?
15:33 ๐Ÿ”— alard 1. To download an incremental warc (don't save unmodified images, for example) you can use the cdx options.
15:33 ๐Ÿ”— alard 2. If you really want to make one big warc you can always use cat to combine them. Two warcs make one big warc (as long as the two warcs are proper, complete warc files, of course, it won't work if part of your warc.gz is missing).
15:33 ๐Ÿ”— alard godane: No, in what sense.
15:34 ๐Ÿ”— alard Also, each warc will have its own warcinfo records and ID, so you'll still be able to see that they were originally two separate warcs.
16:16 ๐Ÿ”— godane alard: the problem with cdx options is i still have to download the files for cdx to check them
16:16 ๐Ÿ”— godane i want a way so i don't have to redownload stuff with cdx file
17:57 ๐Ÿ”— arkhive God I'm really diggin' my Google I/O Chromebox 2.5GHz system.
20:35 ๐Ÿ”— Famicoman http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/advancedfilmcapture/anthrocine-archival-film-digitizing-system
20:55 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex Famicoman: it looks like they don't have pictures of their gear, even though it exists?
23:32 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe "Q: Why digitize old motion picture film? It looks horrible compared to modern HD video..."
23:33 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe my answer: because we can't send modern HD video equipment into the past to capture the events recorded on these old films.
23:35 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe lol
23:35 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe I'm pretty sure the majority of the films he wants to digitize have had all copyrights expire
23:36 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe I would love to see copies of this stuff stashed in various places like IA (either dark or public).
23:41 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe I'm quite tired of the attitude I see in many archives or collections, particularly in films, where even if someone acquires material that would be in the public domain, they don't want to make digital copies available to the public, because they somehow feel it reduces the specialness of their copy.
23:43 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe it especially infuriates me when the item in question is something thought long lost
23:44 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer To be fair, there are some perfectionists out there who want to do the perfect "re-release" in digital form and it just takes ages until they finally made a perfect digital copy
23:46 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe while I would love a "perfect" copy, I also see a huge need for a reasonably good copy to be made in the interim, PARTICULARLY of things where someone stumbles upon a copy of something that was thought to have been lost forever
23:47 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe for example, color copies of this animated short: http://www.whataboutthad.com/2012/02/09/lost-and-found-a-new-taste-sensation/
23:50 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe and unfortunately, this is where the capitalist system really is a disadvantage. Things can't happen without money, and people tend to prefer to put money where they can derive some sort of return (moniterily or emotionally)
23:52 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex people who are selfish with irreplaceable public-domain works
23:52 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex fuck them
23:52 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex fuck them all, in the ear.
23:54 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe unfortunately, the non-PD window extends too far back to limit that sentiment wholly to PD works
23:57 ๐Ÿ”— underscor fuck everyone in the ear
23:57 ๐Ÿ”— underscor ????
23:57 ๐Ÿ”— underscor PROFIT
23:58 ๐Ÿ”— balrog_ Coderjoe: that's a problem with old arcade and computer hardware too
23:58 ๐Ÿ”— balrog_ and ROMs, though while not necessarily public domain, bitrot

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