#archiveteam-bs 2013-12-01,Sun

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10:48 🔗 BlueMax wow it's quiet in here tonight.
10:51 🔗 Tomcat_ Tonight? What's your time zone? :)
10:52 🔗 BlueMax east coast of Australia
10:54 🔗 Tomcat_ Oh, nice.
11:03 🔗 godane i'm uploading some more NGC magazines
11:55 🔗 joepie91 http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/dec/01/week-amazon-insider-feature-treatment-employees-work
11:59 🔗 midas1 \o/ Alec Empire
12:00 🔗 midas1 dafuq joepie91 @ amazon
12:00 🔗 midas1 i would go mad as a bat
12:00 🔗 joepie91 midas1: be sure to read it entirely
12:01 🔗 joepie91 midas1: and still people ridicule me for pointing out that the current economic system, wrt employment, income, etc. is highly exploitative, even with 'laws and regulations' in place
12:01 🔗 midas1 the first day for me would have been enough.. i'm reading the rest
12:01 🔗 joepie91 and that it has no right to exist
12:01 🔗 joepie91 amazon has formalized the points system, but in reality it's applied in many places, you're just not told about it
12:10 🔗 midas1 yeah
12:11 🔗 midas1 amazon just screws with the people that make it possible to grow
12:11 🔗 midas1 and still, i would go mad as a bat after the first day
12:17 🔗 midas1 SketchCow: what was the status on winamp's forums? did archivebot get them all?
12:21 🔗 SketchCow No idea.
12:21 🔗 Smiley if they don't want to do the work, there is plenty of unemployed who could.
12:30 🔗 SketchCow This article is a mess.
12:30 🔗 godane SketchCow: what are you commands for grabbing ftp?
12:31 🔗 SketchCow wget -r -l 0 -np -nc ftp://ftpsite.com
12:31 🔗 godane SketchCow: i scanned thur 400000 id threads of winamp forums
12:35 🔗 godane SketchCow: i'm sort of grabbing nxtbooks index
12:39 🔗 SketchCow Great
12:40 🔗 godane here is the index: https://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/
12:40 🔗 joepie91 <Smiley>if they don't want to do the work, there is plenty of unemployed who could.
12:40 🔗 joepie91 and that is exactly why the "everybody needs to get a job to survive" system is so disgusting and dangerous
12:40 🔗 godane https makes it vewable
12:41 🔗 godane which is even better
12:43 🔗 Smiley joepie91: once all the workers are used up, then the job standards get better
12:43 🔗 Smiley it becomes a workers market
12:43 🔗 joepie91 Smiley: bullshit
12:43 🔗 Smiley right now we fund the idea that some don't have to work because they don't want to
12:44 🔗 joepie91 complete and utter bullshit
12:44 🔗 Smiley lets agree to disagree, I have to go to wrk
12:44 🔗 joepie91 with increasing automation and "efficiency improvements" comes less jobs
12:44 🔗 joepie91 less non-automated jobs *
12:44 🔗 joepie91 which would be a good thing if it weren't for this goddamn mistaken idea that 'everybody should have a job to be worth something
12:44 🔗 joepie91 '
12:44 🔗 joepie91 you know what unemployment is? it's the fucking surplus of manhours
12:45 🔗 joepie91 it is not a solvable problem
12:45 🔗 Smiley lol
12:45 🔗 Smiley and lazy people
12:45 🔗 joepie91 Smiley: no, asshole
12:45 🔗 joepie91 it isn't
12:45 🔗 Smiley yes asshole, it is
12:45 🔗 joepie91 I get so fucking tired of this "WELL STOP BEING LAZY AND GET A JOB" attitude
12:45 🔗 joepie91 it's a complete fucking delusion of what actual unemployment is
12:45 🔗 Smiley do you have a job?
12:45 🔗 joepie91 Smiley: how is this even relevant?
12:45 🔗 Smiley it clouds your view either way.
12:46 🔗 joepie91 or are we down to ad hominems now?
12:46 🔗 joepie91 Smiley: I am making a fucking argument
12:46 🔗 Smiley so hard to remove opinion from fact.
12:46 🔗 joepie91 respond to the fucking argument
12:46 🔗 joepie91 instead of attacking me personally
12:46 🔗 Smiley you called me a asshole first :)
12:46 🔗 GLaDOS LOVE IS IN THE AIR
12:46 🔗 Smiley I just wonder, because i presume from your argument you don't have a job.
12:46 🔗 joepie91 Smiley: yes, and I didn't attempt to use that as a way to disprove what you said
12:46 🔗 Smiley If you do, I'm interested in your point
12:46 🔗 joepie91 Smiley; and that kind of attitude is exactly why these delusional views exist
12:46 🔗 Smiley if you don't, I find it harder to believe.
12:46 🔗 arkiver LOVE IS IN THE AIR
12:46 🔗 Smiley not impossible, but harder.
12:46 🔗 joepie91 Smiley; whether I have a job or not is COMPLETELY FUCKING IRRELEVANT to how unemployment works
12:46 🔗 Smiley hey GLaDOS :D
12:47 🔗 Smiley joepie91: true, but it does infact cloud how you think of it.
12:47 🔗 joepie91 Smiley: and that doesn't matter even a bit
12:47 🔗 joepie91 because if how I think of it is clouded
12:47 🔗 joepie91 it's trivial to disprove that
12:47 🔗 joepie91 with rational arguments
12:47 🔗 Smiley right, work time, laters
12:47 🔗 joepie91 Smiley; that you refuse to talk about this unless I have a job, tells me that you're not interested in discussing the rational/objective aspects of this topic
12:47 🔗 joepie91 and rather interested in an "us vs. them" approach
12:48 🔗 joepie91 which is exactly why exploitative companies like Amazon can do what they do
12:48 🔗 joepie91 and I find it an absolutely disgusting attitude, to be perfectly honest
12:49 🔗 joepie91 and here, go have a fucking read: http://joepie91.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/unemployment-is-inevitable-and-thats-not-a-bad-thing/
12:50 🔗 joepie91 because, you know, I actually _thought_ and _reasoned_ about the goddamn topic, rather than just repeating fucking political rhetoric
12:52 🔗 SketchCow Well, at least this is in -bs
12:54 🔗 SketchCow Turns out red-eyes destroy me. This is not new news
12:54 🔗 SketchCow Best part of the walk through amsterdam was along the water
12:55 🔗 SketchCow And I pass all these little rooms
12:55 🔗 SketchCow And I'm all "what the hell good are these"
12:55 🔗 SketchCow Until I passed one with the girl in lingerie prepping up
12:55 🔗 SketchCow And then "ohhhhhhhhhhhh SEX WORKERS"
12:56 🔗 SketchCow Still, it was 8:30am on a Sunday, the poor girl
12:56 🔗 SketchCow That can't be primo time
12:58 🔗 joepie91 I think that perhaps I should minimize my IRC client for some time
12:58 🔗 SketchCow Can't let the online world drive you nuts, man
12:58 🔗 joepie91 I am currently feeling like strangling people, that can't have a healthy outcome
12:58 🔗 joepie91 so. much. stupidity. everywhere.
12:58 🔗 SketchCow You've been working your ass off on Hyves like the rest of us
12:58 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: that's the problem, it's not an online world
12:58 🔗 Schbirid joepie91: /r/bitcoin !
12:58 🔗 joepie91 that makes it even more frustrating
12:59 🔗 joepie91 just an online manifestation of stupidity everywhere, on and outside of the internet
12:59 🔗 joepie91 Schbirid: mm?
12:59 🔗 SketchCow Well, I'm about to nap.
12:59 🔗 Schbirid joepie91: if you are looking for more of the same D:
12:59 🔗 SketchCow Maybe we should get dinner tomorrow, I'll pick up the tab/travel
12:59 🔗 joepie91 Schbirid: /r/bitcoin isn't that bad, bitcointalk is
13:00 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: perhaps
13:04 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: either way, goodnap
13:23 🔗 tephra anyone feeling up for some arheology?
14:33 🔗 joepie91 fuck
14:33 🔗 joepie91 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25164990
14:33 🔗 joepie91 er
14:33 🔗 joepie91 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/aronets
14:33 🔗 joepie91 how does one archive this
14:33 🔗 * joepie91 tags 'urgent'
14:41 🔗 arkiver will see if I can help
14:43 🔗 arkiver think I got it
14:43 🔗 arkiver wait
14:44 🔗 dashcloud so, apparently this site: http://www.videograbber.net/ can grab ustream videos
14:44 🔗 arkiver weird
14:45 🔗 arkiver the url's change all the time
14:45 🔗 arkiver http://sjc-ucdn01.ntt.tcdn.ustream.tv/ams-uhs02/streams/httpflv/ustreamVideo/16544269/streams/live_1_1385908655_266634638.flv
14:45 🔗 arkiver http://sjc-ucdn01.ntt.tcdn.ustream.tv/ams-uhs02/streams/httpflv/ustreamVideo/16544269/streams/live_1_1385908656_1149280721.flv
14:45 🔗 arkiver http://sjc-ucdn01.ntt.tcdn.ustream.tv/ams-uhs02/streams/httpflv/ustreamVideo/16544269/streams/live_1_1385908669_1045025812.flv
14:45 🔗 dashcloud it probably changes every X minutes, and creates a new file
14:45 🔗 dashcloud twitch.tv is like that as well.
14:53 🔗 arkiver :/
14:53 🔗 arkiver so we don't know how to download this?
14:55 🔗 dashcloud automated, no, but you can do it manually using videograbber.net- paste in the stream url, and press the download button
14:56 🔗 arkiver it just give me the sort video parts again...
14:58 🔗 dashcloud get the broadcast links from here: http://www.ustream.tv/user/aronets and then copy & paste each link into that site. Right click the download button, and do save as
14:59 🔗 dashcloud I'm leaving shortly, otherwise I'd do it
15:00 🔗 dashcloud youtube-dl might also work
15:27 🔗 Schbirid joepie91 arkiver dashcloud: both youtube-dl and get_flash_videos support downloading from ustream
15:30 🔗 joepie91 WARNING: Falling back on generic information extractor.
15:30 🔗 joepie91 [generic] aronets: Downloading webpage
15:30 🔗 joepie91 sven@linux-rfa7:~/riots> youtube-dl http://www.ustream.tv/user/aronets
15:30 🔗 joepie91 ERROR: Invalid URL: http://www.ustream.tv/user/aronets; please report this issue on https://yt-dl.org/bug . Be sure to call youtube-dl with the --verbose flag and include its complete output.
15:30 🔗 joepie91 [generic] aronets: Extracting information
15:32 🔗 Schbirid joepie91: single urls, not the whole channel
15:33 🔗 joepie91 Schbirid: I'm trying to record a live stream, not a recording...
15:34 🔗 Schbirid i had no idea
15:34 🔗 Schbirid livestreamer does it
15:34 🔗 Schbirid joepie91: https://github.com/chrippa/livestreamer
15:37 🔗 joepie91 Schbirid: hrm, that doesn't save?
15:37 🔗 Schbirid joepie91: while sleep 1; do livestreamer -o $(date +%s).vid http://www.ustream.tv/channel/aronets best; done
15:37 🔗 joepie91 o
15:37 🔗 joepie91 right
15:37 🔗 joepie91 thanks
15:37 🔗 Schbirid np
18:04 🔗 godane !ao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8fSyBwdiFA
18:05 🔗 godane sorry about that
18:28 🔗 joepie91 !!!!!!
18:28 🔗 joepie91 http://www.datasheetlib.com/
18:29 🔗 joepie91 actual free datasheet library
18:29 🔗 joepie91 captcha'd though
18:29 🔗 joepie91 might be worth looking into scraping these guys
18:44 🔗 Coderjoe https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q71/1457715_10152440892549097_1657838129_n.jpg
19:38 🔗 dashcloud joepie91: so were you able to archive the stuff you wanted from that ustream channel?
19:38 🔗 joepie91 went down before I could
19:38 🔗 dashcloud the whole channel?!?
19:38 🔗 joepie91 no, the stream
19:39 🔗 joepie91 haven't looked into the videos yet
19:39 🔗 joepie91 but ustreams video recording is very sporadic
19:39 🔗 joepie91 which is why I wanted to record the stream
19:50 🔗 Coderjoe ustream's posted recordings are at the whim of the broadcaster, determined by whether they check the "record broadcasts" option or not.
20:12 🔗 joepie91 Coderjoe: even then they have a tendency to vanish and/or not be recorded correctly
20:15 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: looks like CGPGrey is a fan of your BBS docu
20:15 🔗 joepie91 just saw it pop up on my youtube feed
20:15 🔗 joepie91 :P
21:06 🔗 SketchCow Good to know, although I don't know who that is.
21:07 🔗 SketchCow joepie91: Gift for youuuuuu http://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/Bob_Black__The_Abolition_of_Work.html
21:08 🔗 SketchCow joepie91: I already scrapped datasheet
21:10 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: already read that :)
21:10 🔗 joepie91 but thanks regardless
21:10 🔗 joepie91 also, CGPGrey is a guy that makes explain-like-I'm-five mini-documentary/educational videos about lots of things
21:10 🔗 joepie91 he's fairly well-known for it, very good videos also
21:11 🔗 godane SketchCow: hey
21:11 🔗 joepie91 and you already got datasheetlib?
21:11 🔗 * joepie91 wonders how
21:11 🔗 joepie91 also, SketchCow, would you still be up for the dinner thing tomorrow? because I'd have to plan some logistics
21:13 🔗 godane i uploaded this: https://archive.org/details/Attack_Of_The_Cyber_Pirates
21:16 🔗 SketchCow You bet. We might have a journalist there but likely not.
21:16 🔗 SketchCow I found a few nice places.

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