| Time |
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Message |
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06:49
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arkiver |
godane: downloading http://www.r2.co.nz/ |
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06:49
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arkiver |
:P) |
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06:49
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arkiver |
:)* |
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06:55
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godane |
good luck with that |
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07:01
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arkiver |
thank, you please don't download from the site right. |
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07:01
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arkiver |
now* |
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07:01
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arkiver |
it could become even slower |
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07:01
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arkiver |
will let you know about my progress... :P |
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07:02
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godane |
based on what i can tell i can download 10 videos at 30kbytes |
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07:03
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godane |
so its limited per a download thread or something |
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13:41
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joepie91 |
what's this 1000-year m-disc stuff? |
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13:42
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arkiver |
!a https://accounts.eamythic.com/ |
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13:44
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arkiver |
oops |
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13:44
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arkiver |
sorry |
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13:47
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BiggieJon |
joepie91: the ones made our of some rock ? |
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13:48
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joepie91 |
BiggieJon: moment, I've run into two stores selling it now |
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13:48
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joepie91 |
let me dig up a link |
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13:49
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joepie91 |
BiggieJon: http://opussupplies.m11.mailplus.nl/genericservice/code/servlet/React?encId=StNCvHjFK9JGcFP&actId=31185438&command=openhtml |
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13:49
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joepie91 |
scroll down about halfway |
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13:49
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joepie91 |
the graph |
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13:49
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joepie91 |
it's being floated as a 'consumer archiving' method |
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13:49
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joepie91 |
saying "up to 100 yrs lifespan" |
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13:49
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joepie91 |
1000 |
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13:49
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joepie91 |
er |
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13:49
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joepie91 |
http://www.mdisc.com/what-is-mdisc/ |
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13:49
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joepie91 |
hm, yes |
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13:50
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joepie91 |
seems made out of rock? idk |
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13:50
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joepie91 |
it's suspiciously cheap |
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13:50
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joepie91 |
so I'm very very skeptical |
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13:51
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godane |
the idea of using some rock-like metal to burn the disk does sound like a better idea then dyes |
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13:52
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joepie91 |
here: http://www.databyteshop.nl/shop/detail.asp?bron=main&Product_rg=%7B87DD09CE-C78E-4C9E-93AD-1D9360BDA6F7%7D |
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13:52
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joepie91 |
14,45 euro for an M-DISC burner? |
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13:52
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joepie91 |
wtf? |
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14:20
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BiggieJon |
seems a little low |
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14:26
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joepie91 |
BiggieJon: yes, that's why i was wondering |
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14:27
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joepie91 |
but I know that that store is a legitimate store (I've bought stuff there before) |
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14:27
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m1das |
and in 10 years nobody makes the damn thing anymore |
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14:27
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joepie91 |
and the opus price isn't too far off |
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14:27
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joepie91 |
also |
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14:27
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joepie91 |
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/92928/hyves-gaat-definitief-offline.html?showReaction=6595499#r_6595499 |
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14:27
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joepie91 |
translation: "I'm regretting deleting my account back then... otherwise I could've downloaded my own content now :'(" |
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14:28
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m1das |
cant save the trashbin |
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14:29
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m1das |
joepie91: can you check your pm about the sql box? |
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14:32
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joepie91 |
http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/article_b25c9a30-7242-11de-9feb-001cc4c03286.html |
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14:39
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arkiver |
!ao https://twitter.com/warherald/ |
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14:39
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arkiver |
shit |
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14:39
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arkiver |
again |
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14:39
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arkiver |
srry |
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14:48
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joepie91 |
acquihire of eBuddy by Booking.com |
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14:48
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joepie91 |
err |
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14:48
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joepie91 |
wrong channel |
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14:48
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joepie91 |
acquihire of eBuddy by Booking.com |
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14:48
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joepie91 |
argh |
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14:48
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joepie91 |
WHYYYY |
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14:48
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* |
joepie91 slaps self |
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14:49
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BiggieJon |
sticky window problems today ? |
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14:54
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joepie91 |
BiggieJon: just some misclicks |
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16:27
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godane |
i'm upload twilight 24 cd set |
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16:28
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arkiver |
:) |
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16:28
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arkiver |
to the archive? |
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16:28
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arkiver |
send me the page when finished |
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16:42
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* |
joepie91 high-fives godane |
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16:43
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joepie91 |
arkiver: he's been uploading quite a few twilights, actually |
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16:45
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godane |
i also upload a lot of crazybytes cds too |
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17:04
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Schbirid |
fuck, unison is so damn stupid. added a new directory on my usb stick, ran unison, it did not notice it. copied the dir manually, re-ran unison. now it noticed it as new dir on the stick and wants to transfer it |
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17:15
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DFJustin |
yeah I used to use SyncToy but if you copy a directory, delete some files from the destination, then run it again, it doesn't notice that the files are missing, only new files from the source |
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17:16
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DFJustin |
that's why I like freefilesync, you can do dead simple "is this file there or not" logic |
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17:16
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Schbirid |
yeah |
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17:16
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Schbirid |
i will play with that more |
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17:16
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Schbirid |
how does it handle timestamp conflicts in general? does it always assume "new = better"? |
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17:17
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DFJustin |
only thing I don't like is that it doesn't detect moves and renames unless you use a database |
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17:19
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DFJustin |
I think it's just new = better, I mainly use it for one-way backup jobs |
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20:11
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Schbirid |
wtf wget. --directory-prefix and -O do not work together?! |
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20:12
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Schbirid |
"wget --directory-prefix=DIR --output-document=FILE google.com" downloads to ./FILE , not ./DIR/FILE |
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20:12
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Schbirid |
is there any workaround short of mkdiring? |
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20:20
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w0rp |
So I had an interesting moment at work today. I've been working on restoring information on some sites in years gone by, and we realised that some information was just gone from a database. We talked about various ways of figuring it out again, entering it based on old emails and so on, and then I realised. "Check Internet Archive." Sure enough, it was there, and we got it back by looking at a page on the Wayback Machine. |
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20:28
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arkiver |
w0rp: that's reason why we do this archiving work... :D |
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20:28
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joepie91 |
Schbirid: uh... |
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20:28
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Schbirid |
i am mkdiring now |
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20:28
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joepie91 |
I'm not sure why you expect it to work together? |
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20:28
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joepie91 |
:p |
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20:28
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joepie91 |
they are mutually exclusive features |
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20:28
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Schbirid |
how that |
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20:28
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joepie91 |
one is to say "hey, save whatever I find to this exact file path" |
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20:29
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joepie91 |
one is to say "hey, make a file for every file I recursively encounter and drop them all in this directory path" |
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20:29
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Schbirid |
the other is to say prefix this directory to all your file paths |
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20:29
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joepie91 |
--output-document is what you'd use for a single file |
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20:29
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joepie91 |
--directory-prefix is what you'd use for recursive |
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20:29
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Schbirid |
if your use case, not in mine :P |
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20:30
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joepie91 |
yes, but why would you have a --directory-prefix if you can also just specify the full path (including directory prefix) in --output-document? |
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20:30
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Baljem |
w0rp: I had something vaguely similar when I got fed up waiting for Adaptec to fix their broken FTP server. suddenly realised I should check Wayback, and sure enough the drivers I needed were there :D |
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20:30
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Schbirid |
because wget does not create directories |
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20:30
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Schbirid |
if you set -O nonexistantdir/file |
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20:30
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joepie91 |
Schbirid: creating directories doesn't seem to me to be the task of wget? |
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20:30
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joepie91 |
like, at all |
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20:30
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joepie91 |
I mean, that's pretty much the UNIX philosophy |
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20:30
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joepie91 |
do one thing, and do it well |
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20:31
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joepie91 |
wget does downloading and that's all it should really do |
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20:31
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* |
Schbirid starts picking at joepie91's tree |
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20:31
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joepie91 |
mkdir is for making dirs |
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20:31
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joepie91 |
and I'd be surprised that --directory-prefix *does* make directories - it really shouldn't, other than *maybe* the very last path segment |
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20:31
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Schbirid |
yeah, so why have --directory-prefix create that dir then? it should fail |
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20:31
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Schbirid |
haha |
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20:31
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joepie91 |
in the same way it creates a file |
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20:31
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joepie91 |
but even that... err |
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20:31
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joepie91 |
Schbirid: the problem is that you end up recreating functionality over and over again |
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20:32
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Schbirid |
i get that but still, i dont get why -O overrides a simultaneous dir prefix |
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20:32
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joepie91 |
what if you want to save it into a directory-prefix but want to set certain permissions? should we add a switch for that also? etc. |
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20:32
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joepie91 |
Schbirid; simple; higher specificity |
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20:32
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joepie91 |
(is that a word?) |
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20:32
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joepie91 |
more specific options override less specific options |
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20:33
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Schbirid |
we could argue what is more specific |
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20:33
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joepie91 |
--directory-prefix is directory-level-specific, --output-document is file-level-specific |
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20:33
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joepie91 |
files live in directories, thus --output-document is more specific |
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20:33
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joepie91 |
:P |
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20:33
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Schbirid |
i'll just say "you are right" |
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20:34
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joepie91 |
Schbirid: if you don't think I'm right, either argue against it or don't cast a judgment on it at all... saying somebody is right when they're not (or when you think they're not), means nobody wins :P |
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20:34
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joepie91 |
er |
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20:34
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joepie91 |
don't... state? a judgment at all? |
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20:34
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joepie91 |
not sure how to word that |
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20:34
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joepie91 |
and I mean "wins" there in the "gain" sense, not in the "is right" sense |
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20:34
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Schbirid |
this is the internet, we both win and are grumpy |
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20:35
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joepie91 |
see above :P |
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20:35
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Schbirid |
:D |
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20:35
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joepie91 |
nobody has a benefit from you saying I'm right when you think I'm not |
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20:35
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joepie91 |
neither me nor you nor anybody else in this channel who's probably going "wtf" at this discussion right now |
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20:35
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joepie91 |
:D |
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20:36
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Schbirid |
no one has a benefit of discussing this either so there is no point butting our heads any more |
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20:40
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joepie91 |
apt observation :P |
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20:41
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Laverne |
semi offtopic, but is anyone aware of a mod for squid that saves proxied pages into warc files? |
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20:41
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ersi |
nothing is offtopic in the offtopic channel :) |
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20:41
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Laverne |
:-) |
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20:42
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Laverne |
i find myself trying to recall some search keywords from time to time just to recall a webpage I visited in the past |
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20:43
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joepie91 |
ersi: archiving is! |
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20:44
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joepie91 |
Laverne: could probably hack something up with warc-proxy or WarcProxy |
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20:44
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joepie91 |
I always forget which is which |
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20:44
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Laverne |
nice, thats written in python as well. :) |
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20:48
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Schbirid |
i kinda want to record all my internet traffic |
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20:48
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ersi |
joepie91: you're right |
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20:50
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* |
joepie91 throws an arbitrary unpleasant type of food at ersi |
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20:50
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joepie91 |
arbitary unpleasant, not arbitrarily unpleasant. |
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20:55
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ersi |
joepie91: you're arbitrarily right |
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20:56
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arkiver |
already downloaded 34 warc's sinds I started downloading warc's :D |
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20:56
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arkiver |
will upload them tomorrow |
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21:00
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arkiver |
:) |
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21:09
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xmc |
only bad thing about WarcProxy is it doesn't work well with POSTs |
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21:09
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xmc |
took me a little while to figure out wtf exactly was happening |
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22:54
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Coderjoe |
huh |
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22:54
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Coderjoe |
i missed this news |
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22:54
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Coderjoe |
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Internet-Archive-s-S-F-office-damaged-in-fire-4960703.php |
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22:54
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Coderjoe |
I learned of it from a tweet from rick prelinger |
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22:54
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ivan` |
hah, you must have been quite busy that day |
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22:55
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Coderjoe |
(I was looking back at old tweets on my phone) |