#archiveteam-bs 2014-03-07,Fri

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00:23 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: can i get full access to this collection: https://archive.org/details/The_Sydney_Morning_Herald
00:30 πŸ”— godane i also will need access to this collection: https://archive.org/details/Student_News_CNN
01:11 πŸ”— Ravenloft godane about that video
01:11 πŸ”— Ravenloft I remember the first movie I downloaded
01:11 πŸ”— SketchCow Attack_Of_The_Cyber_Pirates in new home.
01:11 πŸ”— Ravenloft Spiderman.SVCD.TS-Centropy
01:11 πŸ”— Ravenloft 2002-05-03 22:00:00
01:12 πŸ”— SketchCow godane: Access to The_Sydney_Morning_Herald and Student_News_CNN
01:59 πŸ”— godane i'm still not getting a edit button for this collection: https://archive.org/details/The_Sydney_Morning_Herald
02:03 πŸ”— SketchCow Database errror
02:03 πŸ”— SketchCow We'll deal with it later
02:07 πŸ”— godane i figured it had to be some thing like that
02:08 πŸ”— godane i know that there was no power outage thats causing the problem
04:18 πŸ”— dashcloud If any of you are planning to be at GDC, you can challenge John Romero in Doom deathmatch- he'll be playing on the 17th of March
04:42 πŸ”— godane i got today episodes during the beijing 2008 summer games
04:43 πŸ”— godane again this is only the 'first hour' of the today episodes i have
04:43 πŸ”— godane but this covers the news mostly with some interviews
08:38 πŸ”— godane i'm grabbing Meet John Doe that the blaze aired last night
10:03 πŸ”— godane so looks like evening though nbc today show is not being 'netcast' anymore the podcasts are still out there
10:03 πŸ”— godane i really don't get nbc
10:04 πŸ”— godane you can only stream segments but you can still download what would be streaming
11:45 πŸ”— joepie91_ what is the ideal (Linux) imaging method for data DVDs?
11:48 πŸ”— joepie91_ dvd-rom I mean
12:13 πŸ”— dashcloud just iso I think- it's what I've used for the few DVDs I've uploaded to IA
13:06 πŸ”— joepie91_ dashcloud; alright
13:06 πŸ”— joepie91_ I'm updating my image.py to detect the media type and use the appropriate tool :)
13:07 πŸ”— joepie91_ dashcloud: http://sprunge.us/gJgN
13:07 πŸ”— joepie91_ or http://sprunge.us/gJgN?py if you want nice formatting
13:08 πŸ”— joepie91_ massively abusing some commandline utilities, but hey :P
13:31 πŸ”— joepie91_ ... I'm guessing that rental DVDs have some kind of crazy copyright protection mechanism?
13:32 πŸ”— joepie91_ I got like 3.5 gigs worth of read errors
13:32 πŸ”— joepie91_ sorry, more like 8 gigs
13:33 πŸ”— Baljem sounds about right - ARccOS or similar, perhaps
13:33 πŸ”— joepie91_ urgh
13:33 πŸ”— joepie91_ how to get around?
13:33 πŸ”— joepie91_ (and how to detect?)
13:33 πŸ”— Baljem dedicated ripper, or apparently ddrescue will do its usual magic
13:33 πŸ”— Baljem (NB: I haven't tested this myself!)
13:34 πŸ”— joepie91_ ddrescue didn't quite
13:34 πŸ”— Baljem urgh :/
13:34 πŸ”— joepie91_ Baljem: http://owely.com/4TLAHn
13:34 πŸ”— joepie91_ this is where I gave up lol
13:35 πŸ”— joepie91_ as for dedicated ripper... anything that runs on Linux and can be controlled/run from a terminal is fine :P
13:35 πŸ”— Baljem ouch
13:35 πŸ”— Baljem unfortunately the only thing I've used for ripping is DVDshrink, and a) that was a while back and b) it's not going to be much use if you want a good clean copy instead of transcoding, AFAIK
13:35 πŸ”— Baljem at this point I'm going to have to admit ignorance and wish you luck, I'm afraid!
13:36 πŸ”— joepie91_ :(
13:36 πŸ”— Baljem (oh, and c) it's a Windows GUI app, in the version I tried, anyway)
13:36 πŸ”— joepie91_ and yeah, I just want a clean copy
13:36 πŸ”— joepie91_ heh
13:36 πŸ”— joepie91_ then it's definitely out
13:36 πŸ”— Baljem yep
13:36 πŸ”— joepie91_ I'm really just looking for something a la ddrescue/cdrdao/whatever
13:36 πŸ”— joepie91_ so I can automate it
13:40 πŸ”— Baljem http://sourceforge.net/p/lxdvdrip/wiki/Home/ any use?
13:40 πŸ”— Baljem I'm not finding much that looks promising, I'm afraid
13:41 πŸ”— Baljem oh, it lists the tools that actually do the work, so might be worth digging a bit deeper
13:56 πŸ”— joepie91_ "I love how everybody is all: VLC can do it, Handbrake can do it, blah blah blah. No, all those things can bypass the CSS, itҀ™s true. But none of them can get past the bad sector thing. Even ddrescue is useless here because the first pass (-n) only gets 300M or so of the 8G disc. Even after running for several days it was only able to recover 6G of it and itҀ™s completely unwatchable. Like, literally, it still doesnҀ™t play."
13:56 πŸ”— joepie91_ sounds like my case
13:58 πŸ”— joepie91_ huh
13:58 πŸ”— joepie91_ Baljem: http://www.cmdln.org/2010/01/22/backing-up-disney-dvds/
13:58 πŸ”— joepie91_ that looks like it might solve my issue!
14:04 πŸ”— Baljem ah, now this bit sounds interesting: sdparm -set=RRC=0 /dev/sr0
14:05 πŸ”— Baljem that might be what's happening behind the scenes to explain the 'start playing the disc in VLC before using ddrescue' advice that crops up a few times
14:16 πŸ”— joepie91_ Baljem: huh?
14:32 πŸ”— Baljem huh?
14:32 πŸ”— Baljem sorry, I trundled down into the comments on that link
14:32 πŸ”— Baljem because the post itself seemed to suggest ddrescue, which you'd said was struggling?
14:37 πŸ”— joepie91_ Baljem: yeah, read down now
14:37 πŸ”— joepie91_ weird
14:37 πŸ”— joepie91_ Baljem: any suggestions on how to 'detect' arccos
14:37 πŸ”— joepie91_ other than parsing ddrescue output?
15:19 πŸ”— joepie91_ wtf
15:19 πŸ”— joepie91_ Baljem: hdparm won't work
15:19 πŸ”— joepie91_ er
15:19 πŸ”— joepie91_ sdparm
15:19 πŸ”— joepie91_ but starting VLC and pausing -does- seem to work
15:19 πŸ”— joepie91_ ... up to a point
15:20 πŸ”— joepie91_ nevermind, broke after 450MB
15:21 πŸ”— joepie91_ fuck this arccos c rap
15:21 πŸ”— joepie91_ crap *
15:21 πŸ”— joepie91_ seriously
15:26 πŸ”— joepie91_ giving up for todayu
15:26 πŸ”— joepie91_ today *
15:29 πŸ”— Baljem urgh. sounds like fun :/ afraid apart from having stumbled across it before, I don't know much else about it... hopefully someone else will have some useful experience!
15:39 πŸ”— joepie91_ Baljem; currently ddrescue is trying to make sense of my City of Ember DVD
15:39 πŸ”— joepie91_ starting to wonder if all rental DVDs have this crap
15:39 πŸ”— joepie91_ as this is a WB movie, not Sony
15:52 πŸ”— Baljem yes, I would imagine it (or something very similar) will be on all sorts of stuff - Sony probably license it or offer it for any discs they press regardless of studio
15:53 πŸ”— Baljem I see some references to Fox and WB having used it in the past and then given up (some suggestion that Sony may have given up on it themselves, too) - caused too many problems with real DVD players, it seems - of course, the rental sector might be different
15:54 πŸ”— Baljem apparently the industry didn't learn its lesson from the not-really-CDs that would jam car CD players etc.
15:54 πŸ”— Baljem (alternatively they learnt entirely the wrong lesson from that, which is that consumers will roll over and beg for more when force-fed incompatible shit)
16:11 πŸ”— antomatic joepie91: recent DVD copy-protection systems are designed to fuck over any sector-by-sector copies. They work by filling the disc with bad or unreadable sectors, which a real DVD player does not need to (or attempt to) access during the course of 'legitimate' playback.
16:12 πŸ”— antomatic Any tool that does a blind sector-by-sector copy will be slowed down to the point of boredom (and possibly fucking your drive, given long enough)
16:12 πŸ”— antomatic To rip discs like that you need specifically-coded 'piracy' tools like DVDFab and that stuff. Which of course ain't free either.
16:13 πŸ”— antomatic You'll see those protections most often on rental DVDs but they sometimes appear on retail discs too, if the distribution studio is one of the paranoid ones
16:14 πŸ”— antomatic ddrescue will just 'copy all sectors in case there's anything there', what you need is a tool that will 'rip only the sectors where the disc says anything is'
16:15 πŸ”— antomatic [and even then that might still not be 100% as the studios could seed an 'acceptable amount' of bad sectors into the readable areas on the assumption that real DVD players would ignore them]
16:41 πŸ”— joepie91_ blurgh
16:41 πŸ”— joepie91_ I hate DRM so incredibly fucking much
16:42 πŸ”— joepie91_ well
16:42 πŸ”— joepie91_ my image kind of plays
16:42 πŸ”— joepie91_ but it's glitch city
16:42 πŸ”— joepie91_ and then dies
16:42 πŸ”— joepie91_ ffs
16:53 πŸ”— Schbirid_ joepie91_: i have bought maybe 2 dvds in my life
16:53 πŸ”— Schbirid_ and it was a pain in the ass
16:54 πŸ”— joepie91_ heh
16:56 πŸ”— Schbirid_ actually i bought get lamp for the warm fuzzy feeling but never took it out of the box because i watched the rip earlier :)
17:14 πŸ”— joepie91_ http://owely.com/9XSdn3
17:14 πŸ”— joepie91_ well, this seems to work nicely
17:19 πŸ”— w0rp I haven't run my Warrior in a while. Time to fix that.
17:20 πŸ”— w0rp I need to get the scripts set up on my home server.
17:20 πŸ”— w0rp Then I could just run it pretty much 24/7.
17:21 πŸ”— w0rp I have a small Arch Linux machine which serves pretty much just music files and bounces IRC.
22:03 πŸ”— godane i found the video of news coverage when i lost power for 9 days
22:03 πŸ”— godane back in december 2008
23:20 πŸ”— godane so good news
23:21 πŸ”— godane i found out that all the Mad money stuff is hosted on podcast.cnbc.com.edgesuite.net
23:28 πŸ”— godane and unlike nbc news podcasts there is no random crap at the end
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