#archiveteam-bs 2014-06-11,Wed

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03:21 πŸ”— joepie91 SadDM: if you responded yesterday, I missed it... what issue did you have with the IA tool?
03:21 πŸ”— joepie91 also good morning all :P
05:06 πŸ”— ohhdemgir dashcloud, http://devslovebacon.com/conferences/bacon-2014/talks/from-colo-to-yolo-confessions-of-the-angriest-archivist OR http://vimeo.com/96634067
05:06 πŸ”— ohhdemgir marning people
05:41 πŸ”— joepie91 OH OH OH
05:41 πŸ”— joepie91 new jason scott talk
05:42 πŸ”— joepie91 damnit, there goes an hour of my day :P
05:54 πŸ”— yipdw wtf, Bayonetta has Link and Samus outfits
06:03 πŸ”— * joepie91 spots the "dead link" image in video :D
06:10 πŸ”— godane i'm starting to upload This Week in Libraries collection
06:30 πŸ”— godane first episode uploaded: https://archive.org/details/This_Week_In_Libraries_1
07:02 πŸ”— midas YES! the box is back!
07:02 πŸ”— midas cc joepie91
07:02 πŸ”— joepie91 gratz midas :P
07:03 πŸ”— midas it's amazing, they put it rescue mode so i could archive files, but forgot to inform me i could use it again after reinstall, so after 5 hours of waiting and opening multiple tickets they informed me
07:04 πŸ”— midas takes some time, but hey
07:08 πŸ”— midas BTW, what about indie movies?
07:09 πŸ”— joepie91 midas: told you, oneprovider is an exceptionally poor quality support ticket relay :P
07:09 πŸ”— midas like this: http://thepiratebay.isohunt.to/torrent/10267187/CVStreet.2014.FRENCH-En.Subtitles.DVDRip.x264
07:09 πŸ”— midas yep joepie91 :<
07:09 πŸ”— joepie91 midas: why are you using a proxy
07:09 πŸ”— joepie91 has your ISP not unblocked TPB yet?
07:09 πŸ”— midas http://www.cvstreet.org/
07:09 πŸ”— joepie91 (as for indie movies, ARCHIVE ALL THE THINGS)
07:09 πŸ”— midas joepie91: yeah they did, but this was the first to pop-up
07:10 πŸ”— joepie91 ahlol
07:10 πŸ”— joepie91 from the documentation of the OTR library that cryptocat uses: "This library hasn't been properly vetted by security researchers. Do not use in life and death situations!"
07:10 πŸ”— * joepie91 reassured now
07:10 πŸ”— * midas starts getting some python thingies
07:11 πŸ”— joepie91 midas: mm?
07:20 πŸ”— midas internetarchive python thingy joepie91
07:25 πŸ”— joepie91 midas: ah, that's a fun toy
07:25 πŸ”— joepie91 :P
07:26 πŸ”— midas :p
07:26 πŸ”— midas for some reason i havent been using it that much yet
07:28 πŸ”— joepie91 SketchCow: https://soundcloud.com/djz-com/katfyr-green-hill-djz
07:28 πŸ”— joepie91 you may appreciate this
07:45 πŸ”— midas what if i upload a folder to IA?
07:45 πŸ”— midas it has the metadata, subtitles etc
07:45 πŸ”— midas will this break the internet as we know it?
09:05 πŸ”— midas godane: i found a shitload of depeche mode stuff, do you want those?
09:05 πŸ”— midas and kansas stuff
09:30 πŸ”— ohhdemgir joepie91, what are you using to rip soundcloud?
09:31 πŸ”— joepie91 ohhdemgir: nothing, but youtube-dl can probably do it
09:34 πŸ”— ohhdemgir wonder if yt-dl outputs as sexy as this tough :3 - https://mediacru.sh/K1SomsRai7OZ
09:45 πŸ”— joepie91 ohhdemgir: with a commandline switch, probably
09:45 πŸ”— joepie91 ytdl is really well put together :)
09:46 πŸ”— ohhdemgir Ohh I know, it's just doing way too much for me to keep up lol, I like to use small / stand alone scripts when available
11:05 πŸ”— dashcloud thanks ohhdemgir !
11:06 πŸ”— ohhdemgir what happened? :o
11:08 πŸ”— dashcloud you sent me the link to Jason's talk
11:08 πŸ”— ohhdemgir ohhhh yeah
11:43 πŸ”— SadDM joepie91_: it would always stall out on me during an upload (no matter the size of the file). Other than that it worked fine (modifying metadata, searching, downloading and so on)
13:41 πŸ”— joepie91 instantbird
13:41 πŸ”— joepie91 that's a new one
13:44 πŸ”— JohnnyJac It's quick. I do a lot of moving around, and it gives me one app to run multiple chats from.
13:45 πŸ”— joepie91 it's what I use Pidgin for :)
13:45 πŸ”— joepie91 wasn't aware that Instantbird was an existing thing at all, tbh
13:45 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Pidgin's cool.
13:45 πŸ”— JohnnyJac I grabbed pretty much everyҀ”actually, literallyҀ”every app from Portable Apps. It was in there, ran it, and I like it. Small, simple.
13:47 πŸ”— joepie91 portable apps?
13:47 πŸ”— JohnnyJac http://portableapps.com/
13:48 πŸ”— joepie91 ah, Windows
13:48 πŸ”— * joepie91 hasn't touched Windows for years
13:49 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Yeah. I use Pidgin on non-Windows machines. But when I have to work, yeah, I have to sit at a Windows machine. So Instabird it is.
13:50 πŸ”— joepie91 Pidgin runs on Windows also :P
13:51 πŸ”— JohnnyJac I give up! I have no reason. I just saw it and ran it. There was no reason behind running it. Maybe I like obscure, does-a-less-quality-job software. Haha!
13:52 πŸ”— joepie91 heh]
13:52 πŸ”— joepie91 well, to be fair, instantbird doesn't look bad
13:52 πŸ”— joepie91 certainly not any worse than Pidgin
13:52 πŸ”— joepie91 Pidgin is more or less a minimum-bar-of-viability client
13:52 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Fair enough.
13:53 πŸ”— joepie91 doesn't seem to have OTR though
13:53 πŸ”— joepie91 that'd be a dealbreaker for me
13:53 πŸ”— JohnnyJac When I was running openSUSE on my laptop for the longest time, I used Pidgin every day.
13:54 πŸ”— joepie91 fellow opensuse user!
13:54 πŸ”— * joepie91 high-fives
13:55 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Yup. I grew very fond of it.
13:55 πŸ”— joepie91 I've been using opensuse since forever
13:55 πŸ”— joepie91 started out with 9.1 or something, back when it was still suse linux
13:56 πŸ”— joepie91 switched back and forth between suse and windows a few times
13:56 πŸ”— joepie91 eventually settled on opensuse a few years ago, haven't looked back
13:56 πŸ”— joepie91 (also tried out a bunch of other distros in the meantime, all of which either had a shortage of packaged software, or mysteriously bricked themselves upon updating)
13:57 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Nice. Yeah, started with Ubuntu a while back, wasn't uber-fond of it, but did end up running the server edition at home on my personal server. Tried Fedora, but wasn't fond of it, either. SUSE was just what really grabbed me when I ran it.
13:57 πŸ”— joepie91 fedora was a nightmare for me
13:57 πŸ”— joepie91 complete lack of packages, inexplicable breakage all the time
13:57 πŸ”— joepie91 I spent more time fixing it than using it
13:58 πŸ”— joepie91 ubuntu was okay, until they shipped breaking updates and it bricked my entire OS
13:58 πŸ”— joepie91 (that was a few years ago, from what I hear it's still happening with some regularity)
14:01 πŸ”— JohnnyJac "I spent more time fixing it than using it". Best statement about my experience with Fedora ever.
14:02 πŸ”— joepie91 happy to hear it's not just me :P
14:02 πŸ”— joepie91 but yeah, according to a friend of mine who is pretty heavily involved in the security aspect of fedora
14:02 πŸ”— joepie91 fedora is basically a testing grounds
14:02 πŸ”— joepie91 for red hat stuff
14:03 πŸ”— joepie91 so all the buggy shit gets into fedora first, so that all the bugs can be ironed out before it's shipped in red h at
14:03 πŸ”— joepie91 red hat *
14:03 πŸ”— joepie91 (and centos, presumably)
14:04 πŸ”— JohnnyJac That would make sense.
14:05 πŸ”— joepie91 indeed, but that does make it a very lousy distro for production usage :P
14:06 πŸ”— JohnnyJac I used to work at a casino, a surprising amount of slot machines used Red Hat for their OSs, same goes for the back end.
14:06 πŸ”— JohnnyJac They always ran better than the embedded XP machines. Hahaha! But that was Red Hat, not Fedora.
14:07 πŸ”— joepie91 JohnnyJac: makes sense
14:07 πŸ”— joepie91 they likely had a hefty support contract
14:07 πŸ”— joepie91 because casino
14:08 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Yup.
14:18 πŸ”— DFJustin I've actually had the best track record with fedora of painless updates
14:18 πŸ”— DFJustin unlike arch which would continually murder itself
14:19 πŸ”— JohnnyJac I almost tried Arch, once. Never got around to it. Same with Mint.
14:39 πŸ”— joepie91 DFJustin: Arch doesn't need an update to murder itself
14:39 πŸ”— joepie91 funfact: the version of Fedora I was running, had _no_ upgrade trajectory
14:40 πŸ”— joepie91 it was basically "you can kinda install the next Fedora over it, and it will probably keep working, but ehhhhh you should probably backup your stuff because probably not"
14:41 πŸ”— joepie91 which reminds me
14:41 πŸ”— DFJustin for the last while they've been pretty good about that, the upgrader would only go two versions up but I was able to successfully upgrade an installation four versions by going through the process twice
14:41 πŸ”— joepie91 that I still need to update to opensuse 13.1
14:41 πŸ”— joepie91 and get the shiny new yast
14:50 πŸ”— midas joepie91: i dont thinkg fedora has a update trajectory at all, ever.
14:56 πŸ”— joepie91 midas: it does
14:57 πŸ”— joepie91 well, it does /now/
14:57 πŸ”— midas insert CD, reinstall isnt a update trajectory tho
14:57 πŸ”— midas :p
14:58 πŸ”— joepie91 midas: nono, there's an actual upgrade process now
14:59 πŸ”— joepie91 a dist-upgrade
14:59 πŸ”— midas how debian
14:59 πŸ”— joepie91 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp#How_Can_I_Upgrade_My_System_with_FedUp.3F
14:59 πŸ”— joepie91 since f18
14:59 πŸ”— joepie91 (naturally, I was stuck on 17)
14:59 πŸ”— joepie91 I also find a strange satisfaction in it being named "FedUp"
15:00 πŸ”— joepie91 because I imagine that whoever developed and named it, was as fed up with the lack of an upgrade trajectory as I was
15:00 πŸ”— joepie91 lol
15:00 πŸ”— midas i tried fedora 8, thats about 2 weeks before version 17. didnt like it
15:00 πŸ”— midas the releasecycle on fedora is 5 minutes or so
15:00 πŸ”— joepie91 lol
15:00 πŸ”— joepie91 their EOL cycle is crazy
15:00 πŸ”— joepie91 by the time you have an environment setup
15:00 πŸ”— joepie91 the next release is there
15:00 πŸ”— midas thats about 30 seconds
15:01 πŸ”— joepie91 I remember looking at their EOL chart and just going "sorry, what?"
15:01 πŸ”— joepie91 at least suse has a sane EOL cycle :P
15:01 πŸ”— midas anything is more sane than fedora
15:01 πŸ”— joepie91 midas: another problem with fedora is that third party maintainers stop maintaining oldstable even if it's not EOL yet
15:01 πŸ”— joepie91 at some point my chromium was like 5 versions behind
15:02 πŸ”— joepie91 because the maintainer just stopped caring about my version
15:02 πŸ”— joepie91 (until I raged about it on Twitter, then two days later there was magically a new build)
15:02 πŸ”— joepie91 also, midas, ironically, I got most of my Fedora packages from the openSUSE build service
15:02 πŸ”— joepie91 lol
15:02 πŸ”— midas same build, different number stamped on the back
15:03 πŸ”— joepie91 openSUSE build service has a Fedora build target
15:03 πŸ”— midas lol
15:03 πŸ”— joepie91 and its repository of Fedora builds was more useful than any of the other Fedora repos
15:03 πŸ”— joepie91 that's quite... concerning
15:03 πŸ”— midas yeah, to say the least
15:03 πŸ”— joepie91 it's like red hat offering a better repo for .debs than Ubuntu
15:03 πŸ”— joepie91 :P
15:03 πŸ”— midas haha
15:04 πŸ”— joepie91 I mean, openSUSE and Fedora both use RPM
15:04 πŸ”— joepie91 that's about where the similarities end
15:04 πŸ”— joepie91 they don't even use the same package manager
15:04 πŸ”— joepie91 (Fedora uses YUM, openSUSE uses zypper/YaST)
15:04 πŸ”— midas dont like yum
15:04 πŸ”— joepie91 neither do I
15:04 πŸ”— midas have to like it because i have to work with it daily
15:04 πŸ”— joepie91 oh lol
15:04 πŸ”— joepie91 midas: this reminds me
15:05 πŸ”— joepie91 I disliked yum so much
15:05 πŸ”— joepie91 that I actually installed an experimental Fedora build of zypper
15:05 πŸ”— joepie91 and used that instead
15:05 πŸ”— joepie91 lol
15:05 πŸ”— joepie91 which is quite funny, considering zypper wasn't built to work on anything that wasn't openSUSE
15:05 πŸ”— joepie91 the only bug I encountered was that all filesizes went up a magnitude in display (but not in actual usage)
15:05 πŸ”— midas i've installed apt-get on centos once, hated that even more because centos didnt like it
15:05 πŸ”— joepie91 a 503kB package became 503mB
15:06 πŸ”— joepie91 800MB became 800GB
15:06 πŸ”— joepie91 was quite amusing
15:06 πŸ”— midas apt is fine on it's own, just not on anything from RHEL
15:06 πŸ”— joepie91 oh, the apt RPM thing is awful
15:06 πŸ”— joepie91 pclinuxos uses it as main package manager
15:06 πŸ”— joepie91 bug bonanza
15:06 πŸ”— joepie91 can't believe somebody actually thought that was as good idea
15:06 πŸ”— joepie91 a *
15:06 πŸ”— midas they what? do they pay their users to do that?
15:06 πŸ”— joepie91 lol
15:06 πŸ”— midas s/do/use
15:07 πŸ”— joepie91 yeah idk
15:07 πŸ”— joepie91 I'm amazed that apt-rpm even exists
15:07 πŸ”— joepie91 I really can't think of a valid reason for that
15:07 πŸ”— midas i tried it just once, good thing it was a VM so could destroy it as soon as possible
15:07 πŸ”— joepie91 if you don't like yum, fine, port zypper or some shit
15:07 πŸ”— midas then wash my hands with sandingpaper
15:07 πŸ”— joepie91 zypper effectively acts like apt anyway
15:07 πŸ”— joepie91 lol
15:08 πŸ”— midas best reminder to never do it again
15:08 πŸ”— joepie91 midas: have you ever used zypper, actually?
15:08 πŸ”— JohnnyJac I used zypper a couple of times.
15:08 πŸ”— midas im no suse fan to be honest
15:08 πŸ”— midas i should try it
15:08 πŸ”— joepie91 midas: zypper is really a gem, once you know what it can do
15:08 πŸ”— joepie91 the basic install command pretty much behaves like apt
15:08 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Yeah. It was great.
15:08 πŸ”— * midas runs debian + cinnamon + apt
15:08 πŸ”— joepie91 except it has conflict resolution
15:08 πŸ”— midas thats all i need :p
15:08 πŸ”— joepie91 -proper- conflict resolution
15:08 πŸ”— JohnnyJac And by a couple I meant all the time.
15:09 πŸ”— joepie91 and it has stuff like `zypper ps` which shows you all processes that need to be restarted to apply updates
15:09 πŸ”— midas apt has conflict resolution, it just steamrolls over anything else :p
15:09 πŸ”— joepie91 and `zypper search` outputs nice tables instead of just barfing text all over your terminal like apt does
15:09 πŸ”— joepie91 >.>
15:09 πŸ”— midas hm
15:09 πŸ”— joepie91 (even with `grep`, apt-cache search output is typically unreadable)
15:09 πŸ”— joepie91 and well
15:10 πŸ”— midas bit more like aptitude?
15:10 πŸ”— joepie91 apt has conflict resolution in the same way that npm is a package manager
15:10 πŸ”— joepie91 lol
15:10 πŸ”— midas (dont like aptitude btw)
15:10 πŸ”— joepie91 npm avoids the problem of version conflicts by just installing everything locally without attempting to share -anything-0
15:10 πŸ”— joepie91 which is... lame
15:11 πŸ”— joepie91 midas: idk, never really used aptitude muc
15:11 πŸ”— joepie91 much *
15:11 πŸ”— joepie91 also, midas, another thing I <3 about suse
15:11 πŸ”— joepie91 YaST has multiple frontends
15:11 πŸ”— joepie91 Qt, GTK, curses, non-interactive
15:11 πŸ”— joepie91 and another one
15:11 πŸ”— joepie91 all of which can do the same thing
15:12 πŸ”— joepie91 so even if your X shits the bed, you can still use YaST like you normally do, just on a terminal
15:12 πŸ”— midas as long as i have guake im fine with that :p
15:12 πŸ”— joepie91 which means no hours of fiddling around with config files and terminal commands, along with lynx in a screen to look stuff up in the most awkward way possible
15:12 πŸ”— joepie91 whenever you fuck up X somehow
15:12 πŸ”— midas i love guake + apt + cinnamon + debian :p
15:12 πŸ”— joepie91 midas: I run Guake :P
15:12 πŸ”— midas X fucks up itself
15:12 πŸ”— joepie91 with multi-screen patch
15:13 πŸ”— joepie91 I haven't actually had any self-fuckups with X on suse
15:13 πŸ”— joepie91 that said, helpful hint: don't try installing the proprietary GPU drivers from the vendor manually
15:13 πŸ”— joepie91 you WILL end up in a world of pain
15:13 πŸ”— midas i did.
15:13 πŸ”— joepie91 once your X updates, bye bye graphical anything
15:14 πŸ”— midas i know.
15:14 πŸ”— joepie91 :P
15:14 πŸ”— midas i've been in that world of darkness many many times
15:14 πŸ”— joepie91 heh
15:14 πŸ”— joepie91 I just run proprietary drivers from the repos
15:14 πŸ”— joepie91 0 issues with that approach
15:14 πŸ”— joepie91 well aside from the issues with the drivers themselves, but hey, nvidia
15:14 πŸ”— midas yeah, i've switched to that a couple of versions ago
15:15 πŸ”— joepie91 (most recent quirk of my drivers is to OOM on resuming from suspend, even though there's plenty of memory, followed by X segfaulting)
15:15 πŸ”— joepie91 (thanks nvidia!)
15:16 πŸ”— joepie91 but yeah
15:16 πŸ”— joepie91 my current environment is openSUSE 12.3 + XFCE + X11 + nVidia proprietary + Guake + DockbarX
15:16 πŸ”— joepie91 with a good amount of stuff installed from experimental or home repos
15:16 πŸ”— joepie91 :p
15:16 πŸ”— midas debian7, cinnamon + x11, nvidia + guake :p
15:17 πŸ”— joepie91 oh, and greybird theme, which is a whole topic in itself
15:17 πŸ”— joepie91 proprietary?
15:17 πŸ”— midas yeah
15:17 πŸ”— joepie91 oh dear :P
15:17 πŸ”— midas yeep
15:17 πŸ”— joepie91 it is my understanding that proprietary GFX and Debian are not friends
15:17 πŸ”— midas it's like being a deer, seeing the headlights comming straight at you.
15:17 πŸ”— midas -m
15:18 πŸ”— midas you cant run, it will break at a certain moment
15:20 πŸ”— joepie91 heh
15:20 πŸ”— joepie91 $ find /fridge | grep tasty
15:20 πŸ”— joepie91 $
15:20 πŸ”— joepie91 :(
15:20 πŸ”— Smiley right lets hack my kindle
15:21 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Man, this is making me miss using SUSE. Damn.
15:21 πŸ”— joepie91 hehe
15:21 πŸ”— joepie91 JohnnyJac: rejoin the dark side, we still have cookies
15:21 πŸ”— joepie91 :)
15:23 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Yeah. Work just involves a lot less field work, which is where I used my openSUSE laptop. Just haven't had the occasion to use it recently. Of course, I am still a peon in world of managed services, so not a lot of call for non-Windows work.
15:24 πŸ”— midas JohnnyJac: im forced to work on windows here
15:25 πŸ”— midas so not very productive.
15:25 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Same here, same here.
15:25 πŸ”— * joepie91 just does everything from home
15:25 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Had an occasion to connect to my home server for work once, coworker be all like, "What are you running?" It's just Ubuntu...
15:26 πŸ”— joepie91 "you're not hacking, are you"
15:26 πŸ”— joepie91 (that's the followup remark)
15:29 πŸ”— * SketchCow just does everything from archive.org
15:32 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Hahaha! Basically.
15:33 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Nah, people here are pretty start. Just none of them are much fans of anything involving *NIX.
15:33 πŸ”— JohnnyJac start = smart, when I don't have coffee.
15:40 πŸ”— JohnnyJac I am sure there is a FAQ or something for this, but I am an ass. Any particular build you guys are using for archive work?
15:45 πŸ”— joepie91 JohnnyJac: in what sense?
15:46 πŸ”— voltagex it's at the point where I'm writing C at 1.45am on a work night (I don't write C) that I wonder what I'm doing with my life
15:47 πŸ”— joepie91 :P
15:47 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Sorry. That was vague. I guess I was looking solely at the Warrior projects. Didn't know if you guys had dedicated rigs just for that, if any of you contribute to that particular project.
15:47 πŸ”— joepie91 voltagex: I would start wondering that at the point where you said "writing C", regardless of time
15:47 πŸ”— joepie91 JohnnyJac: the rundown is "rogue archivists, we use whatever is available, and build it if it isn't"
15:47 πŸ”— voltagex joepie91: I wrote this, which is even scarier: https://github.com/voltagex/junkcode/tree/master/C/smbversionbump
15:48 πŸ”— joepie91 the warrior is used for large distributed projects
15:48 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Right.
15:48 πŸ”— joepie91 eg. large sites going down in a short period of time
15:48 πŸ”— joepie91 the warrior is just click-and-forget, basically
15:48 πŸ”— joepie91 we have archivebot for small "has to be done right now" grabs, for people who don't have a local archiving setup
15:48 πŸ”— joepie91 eg. controversial news articles, or other stuff that might be of interest later
15:48 πŸ”— joepie91 and has a chance of going away in the short term
15:49 πŸ”— joepie91 then there's an array of individual tools that people use
15:49 πŸ”— joepie91 for local website archiving, wget (with the --warc options) is a common choice
15:49 πŸ”— joepie91 other than that, anything goes
15:49 πŸ”— joepie91 I personally use a custom batch imaging script using cdrdao and ddrescue for imaging physical discs
15:49 πŸ”— joepie91 CDs/DVDs
15:49 πŸ”— joepie91 a custom batch scanning script using SANE for scanning books, leaflets, comics, etc.
15:50 πŸ”— joepie91 Scan Tailor for post-processing scans
15:50 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Exactly. Warrior. That'd be largely where I could contribute, I suppose. I haven't much to contribute in the way of programming skills or time to spend actually grabbing things. I have crap tons of spare equipment most of the time, though. So if I could stay in the loop and keep a Warrior box running for those emergency pulls, I would like to do that.
15:50 πŸ”— joepie91 and a bunch of custom automated archiving scripts using the `internetarchive` Python library, eg. for my Pastebin scraper
15:50 πŸ”— * joepie91 takea a breath
15:50 πŸ”— joepie91 takes *
15:50 πŸ”— joepie91 then the warrior is definitely a good choice
15:50 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Yeah, man. You just unloaded the answers on me. I guess that is the result of being bague.
15:51 πŸ”— joepie91 is this local desktop equipment, or servers (local/remote)?
15:51 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Local equipment.
15:51 πŸ”— joepie91 then just using the virtualbox image of the warrior is probably your best bet
15:51 πŸ”— joepie91 if you want to control a bunch of headless boxes, then you can also manually install and run the archiving scripts outside the warrior
15:51 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Nice.
15:51 πŸ”— joepie91 but that's more work :P
15:52 πŸ”— JohnnyJac I'll get to it all, eventually. Moved recently, lost a lot of equipment, trying to rebuild and such.
15:54 πŸ”— joepie91 take your time :)
15:54 πŸ”— joepie91 voltagex: WTFPL, I like that :D
15:55 πŸ”— joepie91 voltagex: I feel like there's a step 0.5 missing: "Reconsider your life choices"
15:55 πŸ”— voltagex joepie91: never ever written an LD_PRELOAD before, was very cool seeing my printfs come up
15:56 πŸ”— joepie91 idk, I don't think I ever want to touch X
15:56 πŸ”— joepie91 C *
15:58 πŸ”— voltagex joepie91: see step 0, I had a better idea. https://github.com/voltagex/junkcode/blob/master/C/smbversionbump/README.markdown
16:00 πŸ”— voltagex All: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7kJRGPgvRQ
16:04 πŸ”— joepie91 voltagex: hehe
16:04 πŸ”— joepie91 github renumbered your step 0, though
16:04 πŸ”— Smiley k so the upgrade didn't blowup my kindle, good start
16:05 πŸ”— Smiley next up is the "unsupported networking hack" D:
16:05 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Glhf. Hahaha.
16:05 πŸ”— Smiley :D
16:06 πŸ”— Smiley seems it's very widely used tho
16:06 πŸ”— Smiley but i need to clean / tidy this house now, so I think it's lawn mowing time!
16:06 πŸ”— joepie91 ....?!
16:06 πŸ”— joepie91 Expedia started accepting Bitcoin
16:06 πŸ”— joepie91 wat
16:06 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Srsly?
16:06 πŸ”— joepie91 http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/06/11/expedia-starts-accepting-bitcoin-for-hotel-bookings/
16:06 πŸ”— joepie91 yes, seriously
16:06 πŸ”— JohnnyJac http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/06/11/expedia-wants-you-to-book-your-next-hotel-stay-with-bitcoin/
16:06 πŸ”— joepie91 they're starting out with hotels
16:06 πŸ”— joepie91 apparently
16:07 πŸ”— joepie91 coinbase is on a roll
16:07 πŸ”— joepie91 don't they process payments for DISH too?
16:07 πŸ”— joepie91 or was that bitpay
16:07 πŸ”— joepie91 nope, that was coinbase
16:08 πŸ”— Smiley random
16:08 πŸ”— joepie91 well damn.
16:08 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Going on vacation just became a lot more interesting. Hahaha!
16:13 πŸ”— joepie91 http://newsbtc.com/2014/06/11/google-finance-now-showing-bitcoin-prices/
16:13 πŸ”— joepie91 Google Finance is now charting BTC also
16:14 πŸ”— joepie91 also, found this on reddit:
16:14 πŸ”— joepie91 "First they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then they ask if you'd like a room with a jacuzzi."
16:16 πŸ”— joepie91 btw, JohnnyJac, you're aware of btctrip?
16:16 πŸ”— joepie91 https://btctrip.com/
16:16 πŸ”— joepie91 (they're legit)
16:17 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Wow. That's awesome.
16:18 πŸ”— joepie91 it is :)
16:21 πŸ”— JohnnyJac I only loosely dabbled in cryptocurrency for bit, with Dogecoin.
16:21 πŸ”— JohnnyJac I still try to keep up with news, as I can, though.
16:28 πŸ”— * joepie91 has been using Bitcoin for a looooong time
16:28 πŸ”— joepie91 my registration date on bitcointalk is February 24, 2011, 09:49:54 PM
16:28 πŸ”— joepie91 so probably been following it since late 2010 or so
16:30 πŸ”— * joepie91 remembers $0.0x times
16:30 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Not bad.
16:31 πŸ”— * joepie91 also remembers getting laughed at for insisting that an instant-exchange-to-dollars-service for merchants would be absolutely vital for adoption
16:31 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Who's laughing now?
16:33 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Yeah, I looked into it a while ago, but I decided to get into it too late, methinks.
16:33 πŸ”— joepie91 JohnnyJac: see, the problem with these "collective opinion" claims is that when they're proven wrong, everybody's suddenly quiet, and everybody always knew that the collective opinion was wrong, and they'd never dare to state such an insane thing
16:33 πŸ”— joepie91 etc etc etc
16:33 πŸ”— joepie91 and the whole cycle starts over again with a new topic
16:33 πŸ”— joepie91 in other words: there's nobody to collect my "I told you so" from
16:34 πŸ”— JohnnyJac That's an accurate summation, I'd say.
16:34 πŸ”— joepie91 it's a recurring problem, really
16:34 πŸ”— joepie91 not just with BTC, but with a lot of things
16:34 πŸ”— joepie91 most people really don't like admitting that they were wrong about something, not even to themselves
16:38 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Very true.
16:38 πŸ”— DFJustin lmao someone just made a self-propagating tweet via a tweetdeck xss
16:39 πŸ”— JohnnyJac I didn't jump into it just because I didn't have the hardware or knowledge at the time, not for a presence of ideological stubbornness.
16:39 πŸ”— joepie91 JohnnyJac: :)
16:39 πŸ”— joepie91 also, wtf, how did all my audio uploads on archive.org end up into my afterhoursdjs collection
16:39 πŸ”— * joepie91 sends email
16:40 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Why did you direct that comment at me? It wasn't my fault. Haha.
16:40 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Oh. Sorry. Missed the :)
16:42 πŸ”— * joepie91 spams IA
16:42 πŸ”— joepie91 JohnnyJac: nah, wasn't directed at you :P
16:42 πŸ”— joepie91 anyway, e-mail sent
16:42 πŸ”— joepie91 now we wait
16:43 πŸ”— joepie91 there should only be livesets in that collection
16:43 πŸ”— joepie91 not all the audio I've ever uploaded...
16:45 πŸ”— joepie91 alright
16:45 πŸ”— joepie91 time to sleep[
16:45 πŸ”— joepie91 night all
16:48 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Night.
16:48 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Well, I feel sufficiently outclassed by you fine group of people. So, I think I will take my leave or go AFK and get back to peon work.
17:40 πŸ”— JohnnyJa1 Aiight, I am thoroughly impressed with the Warrior appliance. That was a piece of cake to set up.
17:58 πŸ”— SketchCow We do our best
18:00 πŸ”— JohnnyJac I'll see if I can get a quick *nix box to run it going soon. That'd be awesome
18:20 πŸ”— JohnnyJac "The place is on fire! But don't worry, he safely escaped with the rescued data in his arms. "
18:20 πŸ”— JohnnyJac "What's that guy doing in the logo?"
18:20 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Hahaha! The Warrior FAQ:
18:20 πŸ”— JohnnyJac I audibly chuckled at that.
18:28 πŸ”— yipdw Wacom is strangely concerned about order fraud
18:29 πŸ”— yipdw like, I placed an order and today I had to return a call to verify details
18:29 πŸ”— yipdw I spent a comparable amount at B&H for some Canon gear and they didn't call me about anything
18:30 πŸ”— * yipdw shrugs
18:32 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Maybe something has occurred to make them this paranoid? Did they experience a large amount of order fraud recently? Hmmm.
18:32 πŸ”— yipdw it seems like it's just the way they do things
18:33 πŸ”— yipdw another possibility is that B&H doesn't give a shit :P
18:33 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Also a possibility.
18:35 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Not sure how everyone feels about TigerDirect 'round these parts, but on a similar note, I had some crazy shit happen with them last year wherein my wishlists all disappeared and were replaced by somebody else's. Ended up having to recreate it. After that, went to make an order, and my address was a completely random address I had never heard of in my shipping address book. Finally got THAT sorted out, made an order, and they
18:35 πŸ”— JohnnyJac called to verify my information.
18:35 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Was a lengthy process for a miniscule amount of product.
18:36 πŸ”— yipdw I've never shopped through them before
18:37 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Normally don't have issues. Seems like it all started when they moved from a person to a "business" account.
18:37 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Some funky backend database fuck up, seems like.
18:37 πŸ”— midas yipdw: i had that once with dell, but wasnt supprised tho :p
18:37 πŸ”— midas ordering 150.000+ euro's on servers
18:38 πŸ”— midas and san's switches, disks, desktops etc etc
18:38 πŸ”— midas i miss my old job, way more fun :<
18:39 πŸ”— yipdw ha
18:39 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Still taking stepping stones in my career, but I like this job for the most part. Learning is very largely encouraged. I just miss the independence of being a lone contractor. I don't miss the stress of it though. Not at all.
19:14 πŸ”— DFJustin http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/06/02/remembering_tiananmen_25_years_later.html
19:15 πŸ”— DFJustin do want http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/world/2014/06/02/reminders_of_tiananmen_kept_in_a_basement/cassette_tapes.jpg.size.xxxlarge.letterbox.jpg?1402514082684
19:33 πŸ”— godane i just thought of something about the 40k tapes
19:33 πŸ”— godane there maybe the complete collection of a show The Site in there
19:33 πŸ”— godane it was one of the early internet shows on MSNBC
19:34 πŸ”— godane i really hope its in there
20:24 πŸ”— nico 22:24:51 up 8 min, 1 user, load average: 3.57, 5.45, 3.30
20:25 πŸ”— nico :( the vserver host rebooted :(
21:46 πŸ”— yipdw so
21:46 πŸ”— yipdw Ubisoft's awkwardness with AC: Unity aside
21:46 πŸ”— yipdw Mirror's Edge 2 = yes
21:47 πŸ”— yipdw I wonder if they got Tracey from Parkour Generations in again; that'd be rad
21:48 πŸ”— yipdw I hope DICE doesn't pull a Watch Dogs on it
23:28 πŸ”— JohnnyJac Time to update to openSUSE 13. Fun times.
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