#archiveteam-bs 2014-10-29,Wed

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00:10 🔗 Smiley and now g's!
00:19 🔗 joepie91 .t https://gist.github.com/sarciszewski/41dff863601ea7f45d51
00:19 🔗 * joepie91 stares
00:19 🔗 joepie91 botpie91: ping
00:19 🔗 joepie91 what now
00:19 🔗 Smiley lol
00:20 🔗 joepie91 what the fuck.
00:20 🔗 joepie91 I know that you're running on a box with 128MB RAM, but that's really no excuse
00:20 🔗 joepie91 .t https://gist.github.com/sarciszewski/41dff863601ea7f45d51
00:20 🔗 Smiley sleepy bot, happy bot, little ball of code
00:20 🔗 joepie91 wtf
00:21 🔗 * joepie91 raises eyebrow
00:21 🔗 tfgbd_ Will Archive.org let you upload serial numbers with an ISO?
00:21 🔗 * tfgbd_ will assume no
00:21 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: archive.org takes files with metadata, what files with what metadata that is it does not care about :)
00:21 🔗 tfgbd_ lol
00:21 🔗 joepie91 (until a DMCA comes in, ofc, but it'll still be archived)
00:21 🔗 tfgbd_ I was thinking of sending them Corel Draw 7 and 8
00:22 🔗 joepie91 wtf...
00:22 🔗 joepie91 .title https://gist.github.com/sarciszewski/41dff863601ea7f45d51
00:22 🔗 botpie91 joepie91: Go Home, WP-API, You're Drunk...
00:22 🔗 joepie91 right then/
00:22 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: https://archive.org/search.php?query=uploader%3A%22admin%40cryto.net%22%20AND%20subject%3A%22disc%20image%22
00:22 🔗 tfgbd_ Are they like YouTube and will they give your an account a strike if you give them toomany DMCA takedowns?
00:22 🔗 joepie91 perhaps this alleviates your concerns
00:22 🔗 joepie91 :)
00:22 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: nope
00:23 🔗 joepie91 don't forget that the primary goal of IA is archiving, publishing is a way the archiving is made better but not strictly necessary
00:23 🔗 joepie91 so they'll just make unavailable whatever they get abusemail for
00:23 🔗 joepie91 and keep an inaccessible copy in their archive
00:23 🔗 tfgbd_ nice, some drivers
00:23 🔗 tfgbd_ I'm working on scanning my CDs now
00:24 🔗 tfgbd_ I'm doing both sides just to be safe.
00:24 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: as in, physically scanning the label?
00:24 🔗 tfgbd_ Yes
00:24 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: I recommend making a scanning sleeve
00:24 🔗 joepie91 massively speeds up, makes for better/cleaner scans
00:24 🔗 tfgbd_ do go on
00:24 🔗 joepie91 hold on
00:24 🔗 tfgbd_ I figured I'd scan the back too because there are unique serial numbers on the bottom
00:25 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: http://discountoffice.nl/icimages/groot/440605.jpg
00:25 🔗 joepie91 get these, but the 100% transparent ones
00:25 🔗 joepie91 of slightly thicker plastic
00:25 🔗 joepie91 then use a needle and thread to make a square that's missing one side (on the side)
00:25 🔗 joepie91 so you can shove in a CD
00:25 🔗 joepie91 two CDs fit on one sheet
00:26 🔗 tfgbd_ I got 3 CDs in my scanner now
00:26 🔗 joepie91 shove in two CDs, adjust their orientation a bit, slap onto scanner, scan, take off (without having to pry, because you have a flexible corner to pull off), shake out CDs
00:26 🔗 joepie91 rinse repeat
00:26 🔗 tfgbd_ Ohh, I get ya
00:26 🔗 joepie91 my label scanning efficiency went through the roof with this method :P
00:26 🔗 tfgbd_ Yeah, I noticed getting them off the bed was a bit annoying ;P
00:26 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: https://ia600601.us.archive.org/17/items/LittleBigAdventure2/cover.png
00:26 🔗 tfgbd_ I might have a few of those around already
00:26 🔗 joepie91 this shows very well what I mean
00:27 🔗 joepie91 the left side is the opening
00:27 🔗 tfgbd_ What DPI did you do?
00:27 🔗 tfgbd_ I was told 600DPI should be plenty.
00:27 🔗 joepie91 good question, probably 600? not sure
00:27 🔗 joepie91 let me check my defaults
00:27 🔗 joepie91 :P
00:27 🔗 tfgbd_ The guide I followed reccomended 600 as anything over that is overkill
00:28 🔗 joepie91 default is 300DPI: https://github.com/joepie91/scantools/blob/master/scantools/__init__.py#L28
00:28 🔗 tfgbd_ Is little big adventure related to Little Big Planet?
00:28 🔗 joepie91 but I think I may have set it to 6000
00:28 🔗 joepie91 600 *
00:28 🔗 joepie91 not sure
00:28 🔗 joepie91 nope
00:28 🔗 joepie91 far predates it, no relation at all
00:28 🔗 tfgbd_ Well, it says the res is 1,603px × 1,574px
00:29 🔗 tfgbd_ When it says "for Windows 95" does that really just mean it is a DOS game or is there a native Win32 .exe?
00:29 🔗 joepie91 do note that the uploaded cover is postprocessed
00:29 🔗 Smiley i remember lba on the amegia.
00:29 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: hm, I think it was a native .exe as well, but DOS too? not sure
00:29 🔗 joepie91 you'd have to look it up
00:29 🔗 tfgbd_ Guess I'll download your copy :P
00:29 🔗 joepie91 it was really neat, though
00:29 🔗 joepie91 or that
00:29 🔗 joepie91 lol
00:29 🔗 tfgbd_ looks interesting
00:29 🔗 joepie91 it's a great game!
00:29 🔗 tfgbd_ what sort of game is it?
00:29 🔗 joepie91 it's an adventure game
00:29 🔗 joepie91 3D
00:30 🔗 tfgbd_ Ah, figured
00:30 🔗 tfgbd_ lots of those for PC
00:30 🔗 tfgbd_ like Sam and Max?
00:30 🔗 joepie91 this one is special :)
00:30 🔗 joepie91 no idea, never played that
00:30 🔗 joepie91 hold on
00:30 🔗 tfgbd_ Does it use one of those VMs like ScummVM?
00:30 🔗 joepie91 sam and max... wasn't that one of those kids games
00:30 🔗 joepie91 nope
00:30 🔗 tfgbd_ Sam and Max has swearing, so I don't think so
00:30 🔗 joepie91 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Big_Adventure_2
00:30 🔗 joepie91 oh lol
00:30 🔗 tfgbd_ but there was a Sam and Max TV show too, I think
00:31 🔗 tfgbd_ I was looking around the house and felt I should start uploading some of this stuff somewhere
00:31 🔗 joepie91 but yeah
00:31 🔗 joepie91 LBA2 is an amazing game :D
00:31 🔗 joepie91 and yes, yes you should
00:31 🔗 joepie91 :P
00:31 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: you running Linux?
00:31 🔗 tfgbd_ No
00:31 🔗 tfgbd_ You could have easily just did a /version on me ;P
00:31 🔗 tfgbd_ The copyrighted stuff I'm starting with Winworld but for the more public domain stuff I guess I'll do archive.org
00:32 🔗 joepie91 eh, /version doesn't usually reveal OS :P
00:32 🔗 tfgbd_ it should for me
00:32 🔗 joepie91 anyway, was going to send you a bunch of batch archiving scripts if you were on Linux
00:32 🔗 joepie91 er, derp
00:32 🔗 tfgbd_ I can always spin up a VM
00:33 🔗 tfgbd_ or use interix or cygwin
00:33 🔗 joepie91 ew, mirc
00:33 🔗 joepie91 doesn't list OS though
00:33 🔗 joepie91 :P
00:33 🔗 tfgbd_ I see
00:33 🔗 joepie91 could be running it through WINE...
00:33 🔗 joepie91 but yeah
00:33 🔗 joepie91 um
00:33 🔗 joepie91 well
00:33 🔗 joepie91 these are Python scripts
00:33 🔗 joepie91 but Windows doesn't have SANE
00:33 🔗 tfgbd_ yeah, you're right
00:33 🔗 joepie91 nor does it have the tools that my disc imaging util uses
00:33 🔗 tfgbd_ what is SANE
00:33 🔗 tfgbd_ What is it your tool does?
00:33 🔗 tfgbd_ lets you do one disk after another?
00:34 🔗 joepie91 SANE is basically the de facto standard scanning backend on Linux (it's awesome)
00:34 🔗 tfgbd_ Ah, I see
00:34 🔗 joepie91 yep
00:34 🔗 joepie91 batch scanning/archiving
00:34 🔗 tfgbd_ Never used scanning in *nix
00:34 🔗 joepie91 SANE-based scanning tools: https://github.com/joepie91/scantools
00:34 🔗 tfgbd_ Can't say I've scanned anything in years, really
00:34 🔗 joepie91 disc imaging tools: https://github.com/joepie91/image-disc
00:34 🔗 joepie91 (it automatically invokes the right tool)
00:34 🔗 tfgbd_ Ohh, for boox
00:34 🔗 tfgbd_ books*
00:35 🔗 joepie91 well, scantools was originally for books
00:35 🔗 tfgbd_ I could see that would be useful if I want to archive these manuals I find
00:35 🔗 joepie91 but it scans anything really
00:35 🔗 joepie91 it just saves images sequentially
00:35 🔗 tfgbd_ No sane for win32 python?
00:35 🔗 joepie91 scans, tells you its done, you flip the page / replace the discs / whatever, hit enter
00:35 🔗 joepie91 goes on to next page
00:35 🔗 tfgbd_ BTW, why does it seem like all your tools use Python? ;P
00:35 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: no clue if there's a win32 SANE, but I doubt it :P
00:35 🔗 joepie91 and well, because Python is one of the languages I use
00:35 🔗 joepie91 usually for batch/system tools
00:36 🔗 joepie91 moved over to Node.js for actual applications/daemons, though
00:36 🔗 joepie91 bit of a friendlier environment for that..
00:36 🔗 tfgbd_ Lots of the stuff you guys have made seems to be python, I mean
00:36 🔗 tfgbd_ not just you :P
00:36 🔗 joepie91 oh, in that sense
00:36 🔗 joepie91 plural you
00:36 🔗 joepie91 :P
00:36 🔗 joepie91 (stupid English, not having a separate word for that..)
00:36 🔗 joepie91 anyway
00:36 🔗 joepie91 that's probably because Python is generally pretty easy to use
00:37 🔗 tfgbd_ Wow, there seems to be lots of neat software on archive.org now
00:37 🔗 joepie91 and doesn't suck resources like a leech
00:37 🔗 joepie91 (like Ruby does)
00:37 🔗 joepie91 and there's a bunch of libraries for everything
00:37 🔗 joepie91 and it interfaces wiht everything
00:37 🔗 joepie91 etc
00:37 🔗 tfgbd_ You even got away with uploading Sim Ant
00:37 🔗 joepie91 and it kinda sorta runs crossplatform
00:37 🔗 joepie91 result: Python commonly used :P
00:37 🔗 joepie91 heh, yep
00:37 🔗 joepie91 there's a bunch of sim games on there
00:37 🔗 joepie91 I still have a few on my stack and/or in my post-processing/recovery queue
00:37 🔗 tfgbd_ Is that your account?
00:37 🔗 joepie91 bought a bunch of them years ago for 2 euro each..
00:38 🔗 joepie91 ya
00:38 🔗 tfgbd_ crypto.net?
00:38 🔗 joepie91 cryto*
00:38 🔗 joepie91 (common misparse)
00:39 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: if you're looking at my total uploads, you're going to find a lot of automatically uploaded stuff
00:39 🔗 joepie91 :P
00:39 🔗 joepie91 I run a PDF host, and I've hooked it up to automatically mirror every public upload to IA
00:40 🔗 tfgbd_ How do you do that?
00:40 🔗 tfgbd_ What do you mean by PDF host?
00:40 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/internetarchive
00:40 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: I mean https://pdf.yt/
00:40 🔗 joepie91 :P
00:40 🔗 tfgbd_ Oh, how about tha
00:40 🔗 tfgbd_ that*
00:40 🔗 tfgbd_ I think I came across your site in my travels before
00:41 🔗 tfgbd_ How do you afford the hosting?
00:42 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: hosting is cheap, if you're a bit inventive
00:42 🔗 joepie91 "hey let's throw it all on S3" is a very good way to run up bills
00:42 🔗 joepie91 :P
00:42 🔗 joepie91 but there's much cheaper options
00:42 🔗 joepie91 it's currently running on a $9/mo VPS
00:42 🔗 tfgbd_ I found a few free pseudo-VPSes but I'm on my 3rd one because I was using too much CPU time ;P
00:42 🔗 joepie91 will be moving away storage to a home-made CDN baseed on a Tahoe-LAFS storage grid
00:42 🔗 joepie91 based *
00:42 🔗 joepie91 mostly made up of cheapo VPSes
00:42 🔗 tfgbd_ I guess it's also free if you host it on your old PC or phone at home
00:42 🔗 joepie91 and spare disk space
00:43 🔗 joepie91 don't bother with free VPSes
00:43 🔗 joepie91 they're almost universally awful
00:43 🔗 joepie91 :P
00:43 🔗 tfgbd_ well, there are only 2
00:43 🔗 tfgbd_ so it's not like I have much choice ;P
00:43 🔗 joepie91 there have been a number of these services in the past
00:43 🔗 joepie91 they all suck, really
00:43 🔗 tfgbd_ vps.me was okay
00:44 🔗 tfgbd_ I mean It's not like I blame them for killing my machine after trying to boot Windows XP in QEMU ;P
00:44 🔗 tfgbd_ IT actually got through the install process and a few reboots, though ;P
00:44 🔗 joepie91 anyway, if you have a few dollars to spend, it's easy to find cheap hosting
00:44 🔗 joepie91 and lol
00:45 🔗 tfgbd_ I'm way too cheap ;P
00:45 🔗 joepie91 heh
00:45 🔗 tfgbd_ But regular free hosts seem to be a dime a dozen
00:45 🔗 joepie91 yeah, easier to oversell
00:45 🔗 tfgbd_ Do you use a cheap VPS?
00:45 🔗 joepie91 anyway, I have a bunch of cheapo monthly VPSes, even a few that are like $15 yearly
00:45 🔗 joepie91 run a ton of stuff on them
00:45 🔗 tfgbd_ I saw there are a few for even like $10 a year
00:45 🔗 joepie91 heh
00:45 🔗 joepie91 how about 3 euro a year
00:45 🔗 tfgbd_ Awesome!
00:46 🔗 joepie91 http://lowendspirit.com/index.html
00:46 🔗 tfgbd_ Is it a real VPS or OpenVZ crap?
00:46 🔗 tfgbd_ Jails do not a VPS make.
00:46 🔗 joepie91 openvz, and "real VPS" is pretty subjective :P
00:47 🔗 joepie91 well
00:47 🔗 joepie91 lowendspirit is openvzv
00:47 🔗 joepie91 openvz *
00:47 🔗 joepie91 PDFy runs on a KVM
00:47 🔗 tfgbd_ Aww, that sucks
00:47 🔗 tfgbd_ All I really want is something emulating a full system so I can install whatever I want
00:47 🔗 tfgbd_ KVM is nice
00:47 🔗 tfgbd_ I can even run VMs in KVM
00:48 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: http://tinykvm.com/
00:48 🔗 joepie91 alternatively, https://bluevm.com/
00:48 🔗 joepie91 both do cheap KVMs
00:48 🔗 joepie91 (TinyKVM is more stable, though)
00:48 🔗 tfgbd_ I know there was one for like $15 somewhere
00:48 🔗 tfgbd_ $35 is still a bit much
00:48 🔗 joepie91 that's per year
00:48 🔗 joepie91 $15/yr KVM is doubtful
00:48 🔗 tfgbd_ I recently found an Intel Xeon machine in a dead guy's trash. I could maybe just use that too
00:49 🔗 joepie91 ... wat
00:49 🔗 tfgbd_ But it is admittedly neat to have something running you can't hear ;P
00:49 🔗 joepie91 basically every part of that sentence made me go "wat"
00:49 🔗 joepie91 lol
00:49 🔗 tfgbd_ My dad's friend died and we cleaned out his house
00:49 🔗 tfgbd_ the computer was just sitting there out front
00:50 🔗 joepie91 hold on, somebody was running a Xeon as a desktop?
00:50 🔗 tfgbd_ Yeah
00:50 🔗 joepie91 ... why
00:50 🔗 tfgbd_ It's a 2003 one but still like 3ghz
00:50 🔗 tfgbd_ According to IBM's website, it cost like $5000
00:50 🔗 tfgbd_ This guy did a lot of photo editing so maybe it was for that?
00:50 🔗 joepie91 it doesn't really make sense to run a Xeon unless you're on commercial power :P
00:51 🔗 joepie91 pft, photo editing
00:51 🔗 tfgbd_ They're that power hungry?
00:51 🔗 joepie91 quite
00:51 🔗 joepie91 they're server CPUs
00:51 🔗 tfgbd_ Yeah, that's why i thought it was such a nice find
00:51 🔗 tfgbd_ Maybe he got it cheap himself on a liquidation sale
00:51 🔗 joepie91 idk
00:51 🔗 joepie91 even then
00:51 🔗 joepie91 he probably paid through the nose for power
00:51 🔗 joepie91 lol
00:51 🔗 tfgbd_ Hmm, maybe I don't want it afterall
00:52 🔗 tfgbd_ It was wet so I'm letting it dry off
00:52 🔗 tfgbd_ The hard drives were full of porn
00:52 🔗 tfgbd_ lol
00:52 🔗 tfgbd_ for some stupid reason a friend took all the other PCs but didn't want that one for some reason
00:52 🔗 tfgbd_ Maybe the porn?
00:52 🔗 tfgbd_ It's freakin' huge and heavy, though
00:56 🔗 joepie91 lol
00:56 🔗 joepie91 who says no to free porn
00:56 🔗 Smiley lol
00:59 🔗 tfgbd_ Are there any cheap Hyper-V or VMWare VPses out there? Those are just as good as KVM
00:59 🔗 aaaaaaaaa reminds me of this story: http://torrentfreak.com/priests-watch-dvd-screeners-while-pirates-download-filth-in-the-vatican-130407/
00:59 🔗 closure lowendbox.com
00:59 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: don't bother
01:00 🔗 joepie91 you're extremely unlikely to find a better deal than for KVM
01:02 🔗 * closure actually bought a cloudatcost.com VM 9 months ago. Despite low expectations, it's still running for $0/month
01:03 🔗 tfgbd_ kinda figured
01:03 🔗 tfgbd_ being free and all
01:03 🔗 Smiley o_o
01:03 🔗 closure although I have had to reinstall it like 3 times because they're pretty shit
01:03 🔗 Smiley butfr3e??
01:03 🔗 joepie91 question is, will it hit the 3 years
01:03 🔗 joepie91 lol
01:04 🔗 joepie91 closure: tfgbd_: https://vpsboard.com/topic/2532-cloudatcostcom/
01:04 🔗 tfgbd_ closure: Will check em out
01:04 🔗 joepie91 basically, vaguely dodgy
01:04 🔗 tfgbd_ is it actually like Amazon's free tier?
01:04 🔗 joepie91 company with delusions of grandeur
01:04 🔗 tfgbd_ Meh, I have debit cards
01:04 🔗 tfgbd_ if it's free and works, I don't care
01:04 🔗 closure only vaguely dodgy?
01:04 🔗 tfgbd_ or will they charge you out the ass if you do anything on it?
01:05 🔗 joepie91 closure: :)
01:05 🔗 joepie91 anyway, see that thread
01:05 🔗 joepie91 it has all the details
01:05 🔗 closure maybe if you use up the bandwidth limit they will
01:05 🔗 tfgbd_ Ehh, $35 is still a bit much if they're dodgy
01:06 🔗 closure yeah, it's a $35 gamble that they'll keep it up as long as makes it a good deal
01:06 🔗 joepie91 still doesn't beat my stylex networks VM
01:07 🔗 joepie91 $1 one-time payment
01:07 🔗 joepie91 for a shitty small Xen VM
01:07 🔗 Smiley hmmmm ihave a cheap ovh box...
01:07 🔗 joepie91 I think I've used it for 2 years
01:07 🔗 closure wow, still available?
01:07 🔗 joepie91 and they went bankrupt like a month ago
01:07 🔗 joepie91 lol
01:07 🔗 joepie91 but it was a temp offer anyway
01:07 🔗 Smiley i just use it as a proxy atm..
01:09 🔗 closure my cloudatcost vm is currently managing to be #10 on the twitpic2 leaderboard, all by itself, so worth it IMHO
01:10 🔗 joepie91 closure: link to leaderboard?
01:10 🔗 closure http://tracker.archiveteam.org/twitpic2/
01:10 🔗 closure ok, #14 actually
01:11 🔗 joepie91 closure-c?
01:11 🔗 closure da
01:11 🔗 * joepie91 SSHs into his OVH box
01:12 🔗 joepie91 closure: how many concurrent?
01:13 🔗 garyrh joepie91, 2 at most, otherwise you get a bunch of 503s
01:13 🔗 joepie91 fucking wifi
01:13 🔗 joepie91 garyrh: alright
01:14 🔗 closure 20
01:14 🔗 joepie91 closure: wat
01:15 🔗 closure not banned yet, if it is, I'll bounce the VPS and get a new IP ;)
01:15 🔗 joepie91 closure: you are running with 20 concurrent?
01:15 🔗 closure yes. not many 503's
01:17 🔗 joepie91 tracker rate limiting ._.
01:17 🔗 joepie91 hold on
01:17 🔗 joepie91 wrong script?
01:17 🔗 joepie91 yes, wrong script
01:18 🔗 closure hmm, it may only run 5 concurrent despite being told more
01:19 🔗 joepie91 ha
01:19 🔗 joepie91 your evil plan was foiled
01:19 🔗 joepie91 :D
01:20 🔗 joepie91 there we go
01:20 🔗 joepie91 how much disk does this script need? garyrh
01:21 🔗 garyrh average size/item is ~15MB, so not too much i suppose
01:27 🔗 closure heh, $0.50/month xen vps with only ipv6
01:29 🔗 joepie91 okay, what the fuck
01:29 🔗 joepie91 zram just flipped out
01:32 🔗 joepie91 not *entirely* sure what just happened...
01:54 🔗 joepie91 what's up with qwiki disco rate limiting?
01:56 🔗 aaaaaaaaa the items are huge and I think the thinking was to keep people from accidentally ddosing the site as the average run time is half a dozen hours, IIRC.
01:57 🔗 joepie91 .. damn
01:57 🔗 joepie91 I'm not getting *any* items, though..
01:57 🔗 aaaaaaaaa maybe arkiver turned it off then?
02:18 🔗 dashcloud tfgbd_: for the items I've uploaded to IA, my cover scans have been 300 dpi PNG files, labelled as a,b,c, etc (a is for front cover, b for back, c for CD- otherwise you can end up with the CD or back cover as your cover image/thumbnail)
02:19 🔗 dashcloud I found this hugely funny, and I'm not a web developer by trade: http://youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs (MongoDB is web scale)
02:22 🔗 tfgbd_ Oh, so you have to name stuff a certain way?
02:22 🔗 tfgbd_ They prefer zips too, right
02:23 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: don't just zip up the contents of a CD-ROM
02:23 🔗 joepie91 :P
02:23 🔗 tfgbd_ Noo, I mean for the upload
02:23 🔗 tfgbd_ it's 3 CDs
02:23 🔗 joepie91 no, don't zip them up
02:23 🔗 tfgbd_ zipping CDs is just stupid
02:23 🔗 joepie91 just upload the bin/cue pairs
02:23 🔗 joepie91 (they are bin/cue pairs, right?)
02:23 🔗 tfgbd_ One by one?
02:23 🔗 tfgbd_ I used ISO for these
02:23 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: no? if you use the HTML5 uploader you can select multiple files...
02:24 🔗 tfgbd_ Does Archive.org let you look inside isos and zips?
02:24 🔗 joepie91 you should always use bin/cue unless you are either 100% certain that it's a single-track data CD-ROM (if you're unsure, then don't)
02:24 🔗 joepie91 or if you are doing recovery with ddrescue
02:24 🔗 tfgbd_ I kind of figured it would be better if they were compressed since it would save on bandwidth
02:24 🔗 tfgbd_ I know it's single track.
02:24 🔗 tfgbd_ It's just a Corel Draw install CD
02:24 🔗 joepie91 it can look inside zips and isos I believe, but you should just upload files in the original format unless you have like over a hundred files in an item
02:24 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: have you explicitly checked that it's single-track?
02:25 🔗 tfgbd_ yes
02:25 🔗 tfgbd_ Though, it did offer me to make bin/cue for one of the photo CDs for some reason.
02:25 🔗 joepie91 there's probably a reason for that...
02:25 🔗 joepie91 honestly, the best way is to just always make it a bin/cue pair
02:25 🔗 joepie91 if you're talking about CDs
02:25 🔗 joepie91 it can't hurt
02:25 🔗 joepie91 DVDs are fine as ISO, they don't have anything like tracks
02:26 🔗 tfgbd_ Really?
02:26 🔗 joepie91 yep
02:26 🔗 tfgbd_ Some certainly do.
02:26 🔗 joepie91 ?
02:26 🔗 tfgbd_ Home made ones do
02:26 🔗 tfgbd_ And what about music DVDs?
02:26 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: home made what?
02:26 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: all DVD formats are data DVDs, just with particular folders
02:26 🔗 tfgbd_ joepie91: You can pretty easily do a mulisession DVD, I mean
02:26 🔗 joepie91 music DVDs have an AUDIO_TS folder and some metadata
02:26 🔗 tfgbd_ i figured as much
02:27 🔗 joepie91 I think multisession != multitrack
02:27 🔗 tfgbd_ ok
02:27 🔗 joepie91 that's my understanding of it anyway
02:27 🔗 tfgbd_ Can archive.org look inside bin/cue?
02:27 🔗 dashcloud nope
02:27 🔗 joepie91 not yet
02:27 🔗 tfgbd_ That's why I'd prefer ISO for now
02:27 🔗 tfgbd_ It's just an install CD and there doesn't seem to be copy protection
02:28 🔗 tfgbd_ but I did the photo CD as bin/cue just in case because it defaulted to that
02:28 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: honestly, archival quality is more important than "can archive.org theoretically browse my file *right now*"
02:28 🔗 joepie91 realistically the "browse CD image" functionality is rarely needed
02:28 🔗 tfgbd_ AH, I get yet.
02:29 🔗 joepie91 better to just ask IA guys "hey can you make it browse bin/cue as well" or somesuch
02:29 🔗 joepie91 (to which the answer will likely be "sure, eventually, when we get around to it")
02:29 🔗 tfgbd_ Well, I'll just do another run with bin/cue later.
02:29 🔗 tfgbd_ Is it possible to do both?
02:29 🔗 dashcloud yes
02:29 🔗 dashcloud I've done that
02:29 🔗 tfgbd_ in one section?
02:29 🔗 joepie91 yep, and you can add files to your item later on
02:29 🔗 joepie91 section?
02:29 🔗 dashcloud yeap- I upload both sets all at once
02:29 🔗 tfgbd_ i was going to do bin/cue for betaarchive too
02:30 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: what do you mean with 'section'?
02:30 🔗 tfgbd_ oh
02:30 🔗 tfgbd_ can you have 2 different formats in one item on IA??
02:30 🔗 tfgbd_ like the books
02:30 🔗 joepie91 yes
02:30 🔗 joepie91 well, the books are auto-converted ("derived")
02:30 🔗 joepie91 but yes
02:31 🔗 joepie91 there are no limitations on what files you can put inside an item
02:31 🔗 joepie91 (other than that the virus scanner will sometimes get angry at you)
02:31 🔗 tfgbd_ Do you have to do it all at once or can you wait like an hour and upload more stuff?
02:31 🔗 joepie91 you can wait and add it later, although I have to say that the item editor is rather... unpleasant to use, compared to the HTML5 uploader
02:31 🔗 joepie91 pretty sure they're about 10 years apart in terms of release date :)
02:34 🔗 tfgbd_ Isn't there a flash or java uploader?
02:37 🔗 tfgbd_ Anyway, every disk I did ISO is only 1 track
02:50 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: yes, the 'edit item' uploader is a Flash uploader
02:50 🔗 joepie91 and it's fairly awful
02:50 🔗 joepie91 :P
02:51 🔗 joepie91 (as flash uploaders generally are)
02:56 🔗 tfgbd_ they should offer ftp :P
02:57 🔗 joepie91 tfgbd_: um, I think they do :P
02:57 🔗 joepie91 that said, FTP is blergh
02:57 🔗 joepie91 rsync > FTP
03:03 🔗 DFJustin https://pypi.python.org/pypi/internetarchive is the power user upload method
05:26 🔗 DFJustin https://community.rapid7.com/community/metasploit/blog/2014/10/28/r7-2014-15-gnu-wget-ftp-symlink-arbitrary-filesystem-access
05:30 🔗 tfgbd_ LOL: "There are 1067 tasks queued to run before yours"
05:30 🔗 tfgbd_ Poor archive.org
05:38 🔗 tfgbd_ a.
06:07 🔗 tfgbd_ Woo, it worked!
06:07 🔗 tfgbd_ https://archive.org/details/CorelDRAW7Build373RTM
06:07 🔗 tfgbd_ But how do I change the image thumbnail?
14:26 🔗 DFJustin thumbnail is just the first image file in alphabetical order
14:27 🔗 DFJustin you can rename files to change it
15:59 🔗 midas .. damn midas read!
16:00 🔗 midas trying to upload some ftp's, failing everytime
16:00 🔗 midas forgetting to add collection:derp
16:00 🔗 midas must be eary or something
16:02 🔗 DFJustin <Jonimus> have any of the FTP archiving projects gotten ftp://ftp.ti.com/ ?
16:03 🔗 midas dont think we have
16:03 🔗 Jonimus I can run wget against it or similar if someone tells me what to run, I have the bandwidth and likely the space if someone tells me what to run.
16:03 🔗 midas http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=FTP
16:03 🔗 midas ;-)
16:04 🔗 midas and join #effteepee
16:04 🔗 * Jonimus should have known.
16:04 🔗 midas there is always a channel and/or wiki about it
16:08 🔗 Jonimus it is up and running.
16:08 🔗 midas perfect :)
16:09 🔗 midas you can add it here Jonimus http://dat.serveert.me.uk/p/ftp and make sure you place it in TO BE MOVED when done :)
16:11 🔗 Jonimus midas: I just realized I need to make sure I have the space first, so doing that now.
16:11 🔗 midas thats kinda important too yeah
16:11 🔗 midas if its too big dump it on the list and/or shout it in #effteepee
16:12 🔗 midas current dump im uploading will take me 6 hours
16:12 🔗 midas so thats going to be fun
16:14 🔗 DFJustin Jonimus: you also need the upstream bandwidth and/or connection stability to upload 100 gb or whatever at once since you can't really resume
16:14 🔗 midas or use torrents to upload
16:15 🔗 DFJustin that has some drawbacks
16:15 🔗 midas and anything above ~500GB is a good idea to split into smaller files it seems
16:16 🔗 schbirid erm
16:16 🔗 schbirid that's off by at least one magnitude
16:16 🔗 midas nah
16:16 🔗 schbirid 20G is what i have in mind as good item size
16:16 🔗 midas ftp collection has alot bigger ones
16:16 🔗 schbirid yes but that's not nice for IA
16:17 🔗 midas ftpboneyard isnt really that active for starters or indexed by wayback
16:17 🔗 midas and SketchCow said it was okay :p
16:17 🔗 schbirid much unfair!
16:17 🔗 schbirid it's more about their machines hdd partitioning
16:18 🔗 schbirid the smaller, the nicer
16:18 🔗 schbirid you might make boxes run out of space if you upload something huge
16:18 🔗 schbirid at least i had that happen once or twice, ahem =)
16:18 🔗 midas oh yeah that happens
16:18 🔗 midas but you can send the size before uploading
16:19 🔗 midas https://archive.org/details/ftp.compaq.com 200+GB for example :p
16:19 🔗 midas uploading 1TB was bit too much
16:20 🔗 schbirid damn the new layout sucks for these
16:21 🔗 Jonimus its only 31GB so I should be fine.
16:21 🔗 midas this one was fun: https://archive.org/details/ftp.adobe.com
16:22 🔗 midas felt somewhat like this: https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/11d5614c09b1254d3a4a38e0c5537171/tumblr_na0tizwTtJ1qdh308o1_400.gif
16:24 🔗 schbirid =)
16:25 🔗 schbirid now do jamendo!
16:25 🔗 schbirid (sorry :P)
16:27 🔗 midas hahaha actually, i have that disk standing by in my other server ready to upload
16:31 🔗 schbirid woot :)
18:58 🔗 godane i'm starting to do my full download of theblaze.com website again
19:00 🔗 godane its going here: http://archive.org/details/www.theblaze.com-2010-stories-pages-20141029
19:00 🔗 godane i'm doing it by year
19:01 🔗 godane it has to be redownload anyways cause they chanced the url paths
19:01 🔗 godane my first grab back in 2012 didn't have date paths in the urls
19:28 🔗 SketchCow Morning
19:29 🔗 SketchCow What
21:22 🔗 godane hey SketchCow
22:52 🔗 dashcloud I just found about this today, and presumably some of the US folks here may be eligible: http://www.intelpentium4litigation.com/
23:09 🔗 DFJustin I probably fit those criteria, the grounds seem kind of lame though
23:11 🔗 midas 2000, was that willamette core?
23:12 🔗 midas ah yes
23:12 🔗 midas i should read first and stuf
23:12 🔗 midas +F
23:13 🔗 DFJustin hmm the complaint itself is more damning
23:19 🔗 SketchCow Awake
23:20 🔗 dashcloud welcome back

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