#archiveteam-bs 2014-11-07,Fri

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Time Nickname Message
00:40 🔗 joepie91 .tw https://twitter.com/sempf/status/514473420277694465
00:40 🔗 botpie91 QA Engineer walks into a bar. Orders a beer. Orders 0 beers. Orders 999999999 beers. Orders a lizard. Orders -1 beers. Orders a sfdeljknesv. (@sempf)
00:42 🔗 SmileyG i finished FFX2 HD yesterday antomatic
00:42 🔗 SmileyG and i feel theres no timefor gaming too
00:44 🔗 antomatic Friend of mine is quite into FF. He also had a Phantasy Star Online podcast for a while
00:44 🔗 antomatic but then, you know, married, children, time...
00:52 🔗 antomatic Ermagherd! Bee & Puppycat episode 1!
00:52 🔗 antomatic mustgoseeyalaterbye
01:02 🔗 garyrh https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8569219
01:03 🔗 garyrh ^(amazon echo as a horror movie)
01:06 🔗 godane i got slow down error on about 700 eric items
01:06 🔗 godane :-/
04:46 🔗 wp494 okay so my VHS adventures continue
04:47 🔗 wp494 and I discovered one with mighty machines on it
04:47 🔗 wp494 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mighty_Machines
04:47 🔗 wp494 talk about a nostalgia trip
04:48 🔗 wp494 since this tape is proobably 6h I'm not recording, just using obs preview
04:48 🔗 wp494 and ffing to 10 minute chunks
05:06 🔗 joepie91 critical openvz vuln
05:06 🔗 joepie91 patch your boxen
05:06 🔗 joepie91 :)
05:06 🔗 joepie91 (if you run a host node)
05:08 🔗 joepie91 ploop not affecteed, apparently
05:08 🔗 joepie91 affected *
06:03 🔗 yipdw_ whee -> http://depot.ninjawedding.org/adapt.jpg
06:03 🔗 yipdw_ onward to level 2
07:26 🔗 tfgbd If something is darked, can the files still be downloaded if you keep the direct URLs?
07:26 🔗 garyrh no
07:57 🔗 xmc dark is dark
08:28 🔗 joepie91 TIL: a court document can produce 100 gigs of traffic in a single day
08:28 🔗 joepie91 (silk road 2 arrest, as published by RT and apparently copypasted by Mashable)
10:16 🔗 godane i'm watching cutting edge obsessive compulsive hoarder
10:17 🔗 godane his hoarding started like your Jason
10:21 🔗 godane he was trying to save newspapers papers for the last 30+ years
10:21 🔗 joepie91 huh, neat: http://waxy.org/links/
10:35 🔗 Kazzy 31MB, 1.3 minute loadtime on https://monitor.archive.org/pubaccess/
10:35 🔗 * Kazzy cries
11:54 🔗 Kazzy wow, cloudflare does some magical shit. turns out I've been using some random crap on one of my servers, and the files haven't even been there for at least a month
11:55 🔗 Kazzy the the data is still updating there
11:59 🔗 Kazzy oh nvm, I forgot which domain was pointing to each folder
15:58 🔗 schbirid http://starfrosch.ch/hot-100/
17:23 🔗 swebb Prepare to be jealous. I'm getting gigabit fibre to my home tomorrow morning at 8:30am.
17:27 🔗 balrog swebb: how much is it costing you?
17:27 🔗 swebb $50/mo.
17:27 🔗 swebb Community internet - my city provides water, power and now internet.
17:31 🔗 DFJustin ffffffff
17:32 🔗 DFJustin is it symmetrical?
17:39 🔗 * midas shakes fist at swebb
17:39 🔗 midas congrads :)
17:39 🔗 swebb I'm guessing so, but I'll find out tomorrow.
17:39 🔗 swebb Thanks.
19:21 🔗 schbirid mirroring http://forum.openstreetmap.org/ and https://forum.filezilla-project.org/ for the fun of it
19:34 🔗 schbirid amazing http://www.google.com/search?q=%E2%80%9C
20:13 🔗 SadDM joepie91: what's the name/URL of your pdf hosting thingy again?
20:15 🔗 SadDM nevermind... pdf.yt
20:20 🔗 tfgbd I think I figured out a workaround to get IA to extract compressed stuff online
20:21 🔗 tfgbd rename file to .warc and gzip it
20:21 🔗 tfgbd hopefully it will let me do a derive to extract the gz and I can then rename the item to the proper extension
20:21 🔗 tfgbd will that work?
20:40 🔗 yipdw please don't do that unless it's actually a WARC
20:40 🔗 yipdw also what are you trying to do that you think you need Rube Goldberg mechanisms
20:52 🔗 xmc ^
20:56 🔗 tfgbd can it ungzip any file format?
20:57 🔗 tfgbd yipdw: I have a 7GB ISO that compresses to 2GB
20:58 🔗 tfgbd It would take much longer to upload the 7GB than 2GB
20:58 🔗 DFJustin ia doesn't ungzip things
20:58 🔗 DFJustin in derives
20:59 🔗 yipdw best way to do that is to upload the ISO directly and deal with the upload time, or get it to someone here with a fatter pipe
20:59 🔗 tfgbd Ehh, it's not the pipe as much as the time.
20:59 🔗 yipdw marking it as WARC falsely implies a lot of things about the file that will probably break the pipeline
20:59 🔗 tfgbd Seems like such a waste of time when i know it compresses so well
20:59 🔗 yipdw stop thinking and upload
20:59 🔗 tfgbd Anyway, i'm just expirimenting. I will likely just end up uploading the ISO in the end
20:59 🔗 xmc can't you enable inline compression on http anyway
21:00 🔗 xmc content-encoding: gzip or something
21:00 🔗 tfgbd yipdw: if it breaks, I'll just upload again and deal with the wait
21:00 🔗 DFJustin what's it an iso of
21:00 🔗 yipdw just upload the ISO
21:01 🔗 tfgbd It's an OS
21:01 🔗 yipdw 2GB vs 7GB isn't that huge a difference and IIRC IA has ISO browsing tools anyway
21:01 🔗 yipdw you gzipping it just throws up obstacles
21:01 🔗 yipdw don't throw up obstacles
21:02 🔗 tfgbd but obstacles are fun!
21:02 🔗 tfgbd They teach me my limitations :P
21:02 🔗 tfgbd Right now I have about 80/80Mbps so it's not like I'm on a super slow connection.
21:02 🔗 yipdw in an introspective art like parkour yeah it's fine
21:03 🔗 yipdw when you're trying to archive data it turns from being fine to "we have enough crap to deal with, don't need more of it"
21:03 🔗 tfgbd I started as an MDF/MDS but I'm going to convert it to bin/cue, I guess
21:03 🔗 DFJustin oh pff that's a better connection than I have and I've done 20gb files
21:03 🔗 xmc pff, on 80/80 it's the difference between five minutes and ten minutes
21:03 🔗 xmc if that
21:03 🔗 yipdw upload the original format
21:03 🔗 yipdw derive tasks can handle conversion
21:03 🔗 yipdw if they can't now they could someday
21:04 🔗 yipdw I'm pretty sure joepie91 has already told you this
21:04 🔗 tfgbd It was given to me in mdf but you said not to use proprietairy formats
21:04 🔗 DFJustin if the original is mdf/mds I would upload that and the iso conversion both
21:04 🔗 tfgbd Ah, okay
21:04 🔗 tfgbd S'why I'll do then
21:04 🔗 tfgbd s'what&
21:04 🔗 tfgbd The mdf was gzipped too.
21:04 🔗 DFJustin so it's accessible but you've got the original in case the conversion is bad or loses information (which it will for mdf->iso)
21:05 🔗 tfgbd should I upload the original original or just extrac it first
21:05 🔗 tfgbd It's a DVD install image, so I doubt it has any additional data to lose
21:05 🔗 tfgbd but I'll do both just in case
21:07 🔗 DFJustin yeah the extra information isn't important but it will prove to anyone looking later that there wasn't anything more on the disc
21:09 🔗 xmc ^
21:09 🔗 xmc if you can do soemthing useful that the deriver won't, then upload the original and your value-added version
21:10 🔗 xmc if not, don't worry about it
21:12 🔗 tfgbd I getcha
21:12 🔗 tfgbd that's what I've been doing
21:12 🔗 tfgbd I made ISOs of some things but I didn't bother for everything
21:12 🔗 tfgbd didn't seem worth the effort
21:13 🔗 * xmc nods
21:15 🔗 tfgbd I have some CHM ebooks I found on included CDs. How would you suggest I upload those?
21:15 🔗 tfgbd I was going to upload the CHM as a book and then add some CD images to the extra files
21:16 🔗 tfgbd I assume IA will do a derive task on the book and convert it to like 50 other formats
21:17 🔗 DFJustin ia doesn't derive from chm format
21:18 🔗 DFJustin afaik
21:18 🔗 xmc you can always upload it, see what the deriver does, and then add more files to the item
21:18 🔗 DFJustin the book deriving is all based on image sets, so it has to be like an archive of image files or a pdf that it can render out to images
21:19 🔗 tfgbd ahh
21:19 🔗 tfgbd and then it attempts to convert those to epub or whatever?
21:19 🔗 DFJustin yeah it then does ocr
21:19 🔗 tfgbd I guess that explains why it is often pretty shitty with some older books
21:20 🔗 DFJustin you can upload books in any format but the "text" ones just kinda sit there as a download-only item
21:20 🔗 tfgbd Even the .txt files?
21:20 🔗 DFJustin e.g. https://archive.org/details/zhang-zhung-dictionary-200404
21:20 🔗 DFJustin I guess for .txt it would show in the browser but point being no fancy book flipping viewer and thumbnails and such
21:21 🔗 tfgbd Hmm, you'd think it would have an easier time converting a pure text format...
21:21 🔗 tfgbd even to just an epub or whatever
21:21 🔗 DFJustin it's designed around scanning physical books
21:21 🔗 DFJustin but yeah there's definitely room for improvement
21:22 🔗 tfgbd It's still pretty neat
21:22 🔗 tfgbd I found some expensive, once rare books on IA
21:22 🔗 xmc it's always funny to upload a pdf with text in it, the deriver screenshots it and then ocrs
21:22 🔗 tfgbd eww
21:22 🔗 DFJustin yeah and then the book reader shows you jpgs of the text
21:22 🔗 tfgbd lol
21:23 🔗 tfgbd what does it do with mobipocket and epubs?
21:23 🔗 DFJustin nothing afaik
21:23 🔗 DFJustin solution: give ia lots of money so they hire more developers
21:23 🔗 tfgbd you can't just become one?
21:23 🔗 tfgbd not open?
21:24 🔗 DFJustin maybe, too busy with my day job personally
21:24 🔗 yipdw i like how you think people do anyone's work for free
21:25 🔗 DFJustin they do post source code for some of the stuff at least but I think they're not really geared towards the public working on it
21:27 🔗 DFJustin e.g. https://github.com/openlibrary/bookreader

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