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aaaaaaaaa |
I do like how their job requirements include "a sense of humor" |
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godane |
i'm grabbing medium.com through a proxy now |
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godane |
i hope this will webarchive right |
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anomie |
godane: Why throught a proxy? Is it blocked by something? |
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aaaaaaaaa: Damn… I'm too dump for those jobs. |
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anomie: its blocked or a bad connection for me |
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godane |
i have been having this problem for over a month |
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aaaaaaaaa |
I still think they must have IP banned you and maybe the user agent too. |
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anomie |
So, what are some pro-active archivist organizations other than archive-team? |
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godane |
no |
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godane |
i'm just the one man archiveteam |
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godane |
:P |
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anomie |
godane: Yes, but I'm wondering what other organizations archive stuff for the common good. |
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godane |
these guys: http://www2.archivists.org/ |
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anomie |
godane: My first impression is that it seems to be more about job seeking, not that it's a bad thing. |
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yipdw |
anomie: IA, Library of Congress, British Library, others |
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anomie |
All right. |
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anomie |
That reminds me, does the LoC archive websites too? |
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yipdw |
I'm not sure but I think it's yes |
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yipdw |
others might know better |
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yipdw |
anyway I think what really makes Archive Team so visible is that we have a badass promoter |
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anomie |
Okay, I guess the SAA does do some nice things. http://www2.archivists.org/news/2015/saa-calls-on-facebook-to-enable-content-downloading-for-pages |
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anomie |
Anyone with a subscription to the American Archivist willing to do me favor? |
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anomie |
Non open-access journals really annoy me. -_- |
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DFJustin |
http://sci-hub.club/ |
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anomie |
DFJustin: Isn't that just another libgen mirror? |
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vitzli |
no, it's a website that fills libgen with scientific articles |
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anomie |
Oh, nice. |
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anomie |
Regardless, they still don't have what I want. |
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DFJustin |
(it's a proxy for accessing journal articles through subscribing institutions) |
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anomie |
Oh… |
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anomie |
That's nice. |
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anomie |
I bet it's turned into a cat and mouse game though. |
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anomie |
It doesn't work for the American Archivist though. |
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vitzli |
anomie, doi? |
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anomie |
vitzli: 10.17723/0360-9081.78.1.84 |
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vitzli |
no luck for me either, I thought they did ip lock |
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anomie |
Darn. |
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anomie |
I've never understood why organizations with membership dues such as the American Archivist, ACM, etc. feel the need to paywall their contributions to science. |
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JesseW |
Delightful Infocom advertisment from 1984: https://i.imgur.com/RQxDyoP.jpg |
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JesseW |
https://twitter.com/PObean/status/639622298581004288 <- this makes me think it would be nice to code up a easy-to-use WARC-to-zip (with link-conversion) utility (and even better if that got added to IA's automatic list of derivers) |
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JesseW |
It'd probably be good to add that to one of the Dev-tasks-available-for-volunteers lists... |
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JesseW |
if it isn't already on there |
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anomie |
I think that'd also be nice. |
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anomie |
If there is a warc library for common lisp, I might try it. |
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JesseW |
anomie: it should be pretty fast to /write/ a warc library for common lisp -- the warc format is basically just a pile of key value pairs intersperced with big data blobs |
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JesseW |
Check http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=WARC for info and links |
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aaaaaaaaa |
I believe I got my copy of the draft from here http://bibnum.bnf.fr/WARC/ |
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anomie |
JesseW: I guess that's true. I might try it, but I'll have to get more familiar with the language. |
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anomie |
Where's the spec? |
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JesseW |
anomie: which language, common lisp? Is there a language you are more familiar with? There are existing libraries in python, java and a few others, I think. |
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JesseW |
anomie: see aaaaaaaaa's link. :-) |
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aaaaaaaaa |
one trap is that a warc.gz file is usually multiple gz files concatenated together. |
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anomie |
JesseW: My problem is that I'm not really that familiar with any language. I keep changing my mind! |
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anomie |
I think I'll stick with CL though. |
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JesseW |
CL is certainly pretty. |
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JesseW |
I assume you've seen dwheeler's project for a prettier syntax? http://readable.sourceforge.net/ |
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anomie |
That being said, not everything is the most idiomatic, but it's not very hard to abstract stuff away if you need to. |
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anomie |
I like my parentheses though. |
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aaaaaaaaa |
isn't that prefix? I can't seem to get my brain to bend that way |
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JesseW |
The readable project won't take away your parentheses -- just let you use alternatives when they are helpful. |
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JesseW |
... and avoid prefix notation when it is unnecessarily brain-bending |
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JesseW |
(note, I haven't written much CL, or used the readable project's stuff -- this is just from reading about it) |
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aaaaaaaaa |
I'm new to programming (in things other than basic), but I prefer python. Seems easy to get it to do what I want and there seems to be just about everything in the library, let alone PyPI. |
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JesseW |
python is certainly lovely (although it isn't as straightforward as it used to be, and the 2/3 transition was^C^C^Cis badly handled) |
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JesseW |
aaaaaaaaa: what version of basic have you used? I started on QBasic, which I really need to see if it is in the Software Collection yet. |
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JesseW |
YES, IT IS! https://archive.org/details/msdos_qbasic_megapack |
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aaaaaaaaa |
I don't even remember what I started with, but it wasn't qbasic, I believe that was labels, not line numbers |
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anomie |
>qbasic |
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anomie |
>not superior freebasic |
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anomie |
Oops. |
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anomie |
Sorry, I thought I was on #/tech/ |
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aaaaaaaaa |
maybe it was asic? I can't remember. The closest I've been for awhile was VBS and VBA |
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JesseW |
I still love QBasic over the later Basic's I used. |
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JesseW |
now I want to go see if I can dig up the code I wrote back then |
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anomie |
Is qbasic still maintained? |
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JesseW |
anomie: "maintained"? It's a binary. There's nothing to maintain. :-) |
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JesseW |
I presume there exist FOSS implementations of Basic, some of which are likely still actively maintained... |
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anomie |
JesseW: Of course there are. http://www.freebasic.net/ |
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anomie |
That being said, basic is much too verbose for my taste. |
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JesseW |
anomie: yeah, it is that. But it was my first language, so I'm just all the nostalgic. |
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anomie |
Yup. |
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anomie |
There's also kbasic. http://www.kbasic.org/ |
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aaaaaaaaa |
If any of you use JetBrains stuff, they are going to a subscription model in November http://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2015/09/03/introducing-jetbrains-toolbox/ |
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Why would I do that? |
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