#archiveteam-bs 2015-10-18,Sun

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00:21 🔗 * joepie91 waves at kristian_
00:21 🔗 joepie91 [02:19] <kristian_> there was this (horrible!!) social media thing here in Denmark about 10 years ago. Kids aged 9-12 or so making fools of themselves, harassing each other and so on.
00:21 🔗 kristian_ hi, joepie91
00:21 🔗 joepie91 these are, honestly, just as much part of history as anything else
00:22 🔗 joepie91 you can't un-happen them
00:22 🔗 kristian_ but you can un-show them
00:22 🔗 joepie91 not really
00:22 🔗 joepie91 people will be aware of its existence
00:22 🔗 joepie91 remain aware of it
00:22 🔗 joepie91 you cannot erase it from people's minds
00:22 🔗 joepie91 you can only prevent it from passing on to a few generations later, which will just have them make the same mistake
00:23 🔗 joepie91 and those few generations later, the original posters are likely already dead anyway
00:23 🔗 xmc at this point i'd like to mention that joepie91 does not represent archiveteam's opinions as a whole; he is just vocal and has the time to lay them out for people
00:23 🔗 joepie91 ^
00:23 🔗 kristian_ I know this is just a conversation between individuals
00:24 🔗 joepie91 xmc: I don't think archiveteam really has an opinion as a whole :P
00:24 🔗 xmc (i'm not going to agree or disagree with what i see, as I haven't had a chance to read this whole conversation)
00:24 🔗 xmc joepie91: right!
00:24 🔗 joepie91 other than "saving shit and stuff"
00:24 🔗 xmc yeas
00:25 🔗 kristian_ that's the way it is with these things. And there are always someone you whose opinions you abhor, apart from the X that unites you.
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00:31 🔗 kristian_ anyway, it's 2:30 AM here, so ...
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00:49 🔗 kristian_ http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25022
00:49 🔗 kristian_ this is an interesting read!
00:55 🔗 * joepie91 sighs
00:58 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: I don't know. I mostly see a lot of uninformed and one-sided "BUT THAT IS MY COPYRIGHT" shouting
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00:59 🔗 kristian_ it's interesting to see the 2002 reactions, I think
00:59 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: they have not changed much, if at all :)
00:59 🔗 kristian_ I have made people very happy by showing them their (presumably lost) websites on Waybackmachine
00:59 🔗 joepie91 people still believe that copyright is meant to provide them with control over their works, or that it is meant to ensure their income
01:00 🔗 joepie91 and they still try to aggressively throw that into the discussion without considering the other side at all - the public benefit
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01:00 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: right. responses vary :P
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01:01 🔗 joepie91 (both of the above perceptions of what copyright is for are wrong, btw)
01:01 🔗 kristian_ I called it "interesting" because it's pretty unfiltered ... and while the angry people are loud, some are more reflected
01:01 🔗 * kristian_ awaits a lecture now
01:02 🔗 joepie91 right
01:02 🔗 joepie91 and nah :)
01:02 🔗 joepie91 too much RSI to go into unsolicited rants
01:02 🔗 kristian_ I built this recently: http://starwarsmesse.dk/om-messen/
01:03 🔗 kristian_ if you scroll down, you'll find a link to the page for the previous event on Archive.org
01:04 🔗 kristian_ the organizers were cool with that, and I think it's a neat feature
01:05 🔗 kristian_ by the way!
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01:08 🔗 kristian_ https://web.archive.org/web/20121102211833/http://quatermass2.webeden.co.uk/
01:08 🔗 kristian_ can YOU get any pictures out of this thing?
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01:09 🔗 joepie91 kristian_: looks like they may not have been saved
01:09 🔗 joepie91 https://web.archive.org/web/20121102211833im_/http:/quatermass2.webeden.co.uk/communities/4/004/006/671/914/images/4549452559_525x315.jpg
01:09 🔗 kristian_ yes
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01:10 🔗 kristian_ but ... hang on
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01:13 🔗 kristian_ what about this version? https://web.archive.org/web/20081207012054/http://quatermass2.webeden.co.uk/dailyexpressfiles/4530887863#navigation
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01:16 🔗 pokeball9 Can someone please explain why https://archive.org/details/pubmed is flooding the result for 4chan on archive.org for no reason https://archive.org/search.php?query=4chan
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02:38 🔗 myself so, in both of the torrent clients I've tried so far, "torrent hash" is right there in the torrent properties while it's running
02:38 🔗 myself copy that string, then go "add torrent link" or something, and paste it. Should come in without the dht/pex restrictions.
02:41 🔗 VADemon hah! in that case, uTorrent doesn't allow me to click on the "Copy Magnet link" menu entry, gotta make it myself then...
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02:49 🔗 VADemon this trick worked. yet it bothers me that I can't enforce this behavior on an added torrent
03:09 🔗 myself It worked? Whoah! I was 80% guessing. :P
03:26 🔗 pokeball9 What's was the other 20% of myself?
03:28 🔗 myself some decade-old knowledge about how bittorrent, DHT, and magnet URI's work
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09:17 🔗 Sanqui efnet is the only network I routinely get kicked off :/
09:23 🔗 HCross Sanqui, at least you arent DDoSed off tho
09:24 🔗 Sanqui true.
09:24 🔗 HCross Unlike me who does get booted off
09:24 🔗 Sanqui ouch
09:25 🔗 HCross Yup. They tend also to like PPS over actual bandwith, last one was only 250Mbps but was getting on for 750k PPS
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13:25 🔗 schbirid2 time to buy 8tb hdd and 128gb microsdhc \o/
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16:20 🔗 godane SketchCow: can you tell me where myspleen videos i uploaded to FOS are?
16:21 🔗 godane i ask cause the folder is gone from FOS
16:23 🔗 godane ok i found one: https://archive.org/details/dvd_1977-09-16_ABC_The_Making_of_Star_Wars_w-o-c
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16:24 🔗 godane crap
16:24 🔗 godane you are doing things wrong i think
16:25 🔗 godane the TUAW youtube videos
16:25 🔗 godane they don't have key words and are just dump into the moving image archive
16:26 🔗 godane those should be put in to a TUAW youtube collection or something
16:26 🔗 godane and with keywords it would be impossible to find them
16:28 🔗 godane even more problems
16:28 🔗 godane the TUAW videos i think had json.info files
16:29 🔗 godane i can't remember if they got made or not though
16:29 🔗 godane ok i see them
16:29 🔗 godane nevermind
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17:02 🔗 VADemon pokeball9, or use your old smartphone as your personal server
17:03 🔗 pokeball9 My old smartphone just died on me,so that wouldn't work
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17:08 🔗 VADemon my old SGS2 looks like this when it's on: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53753604/temp/DSC06144.jpg
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17:09 🔗 VADemon yet I managed to get a video output with MHL and I set it up blindly tapping on the screen ;)
17:11 🔗 pokeball9 It just died,won't even turn on with charge,no it's not the battery,that was replaced 2 weeks pior to it dying
17:19 🔗 pokeball9 On an unrelated note,is it worth jailbreaking a iPhone?
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