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[01:15] you know what, I'll shut the fuck up [01:15] WARC-IP-Address is the contacted *host's* IP [01:16] Ah, okay. [01:16] the client's IP is not present, at least not in any ArchiveBot WARCs [01:17] anyway yes you can rewrite WARCs; while they are text it would be good to use something that understands WARC structure, like warcat [01:17] For purposes unrelated to Archive Team, I'm considering producing some warc files with warcprox, and sharing then publicly. So, I was wondering what might betray my identity. [01:17] That's the question I should I have asked in the first place. [01:17] however doing so alters the WARC with all the consequences that implies [01:18] anomie: probably anything [01:18] the WARCs contain cookies, could contain origin IPs if the response contains them [01:18] I figure cookies might do it. [01:18] would it be non-trivial to remove cookies from WARCs? [01:19] you can eliminate the Cookie: headers in the response bodies, though that may or may not break your archive [01:19] depends on whether or not the replayed page needs them [01:19] if you want to protect your identity, I recommend using a fetcher that isn't connected with you at all [01:19] there's too many ways for a server to record you in its requests [01:19] er responses [01:20] Right, but then I'm afraid some anti-scraping mechanisms could ruin it. [01:20] tradeoffs [01:20] I suppose. [01:20] a third way is to remote-control Chromium or something but AFAIK nobody has written a Chromium bridge -> WARC thing yet [01:21] There's WARCreate. [01:21] it's one project on the list of Things I Will Never Get To for ArchiveBot [01:22] *** aaaaaaaaa has quit IRC (Leaving) [01:23] WARCreate is a possibility; you still need some way to control the grab [01:23] and to click on things, which is terribly difficult in itself, no thanks to things like Angular that for some reason reinvented [01:26] True. [01:44] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:47] *** vitzli has quit IRC (Leaving) [02:03] *** primus104 has quit IRC (Leaving.) [03:17] *** JesseW1 has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:17] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [03:46] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:46] *** JesseW1 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [03:58] Question: How insanely ridiculous would it be to start archiving university student homepages? [03:59] Doesn't seem rediculous at all, to me. [03:59] Put together a list on the wiki. [04:00] Oh [04:00] That idea already exists [04:00] http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=University_Web_Hosting [04:00] Grin. [04:00] Good. [04:01] phuzion: well, start writing up warrior scripts. :-) [04:01] JesseW: I would if I knew wtf I was doing [04:02] phuzion: where are you starting from? [04:02] Beginner-ish programming experience. Some experience with regex and whatnot, but minimal experience with python. [04:03] phuzion: I'd suggest looking over the repositories, then, as a next step. [04:03] Like, I can go in and see "Oh, syntax error, let me find the missing close paren" but not "Oh, thats doing the wrong thing, let me rewrite the function." [04:04] I'm hardly an expert, but I'm glad to answer what questions I can. ( arkiver is the expect, I think). [04:05] Huh, it actually doesn't look horribly complicated to be entirely honest. [04:05] no, it's not too bad. [04:06] I haven't written one yet, but mostly due to not having a need so far. [04:06] Right. [04:06] but I would certainly be delighted to have something else to run when things are slow. :-) [04:06] discovery's gonna be a bitch on a project like this. [04:07] yep. [04:07] JesseW: urlteam always needs extra warriors :) [04:08] speaking of urlteam, I do want to look into how to add code for more shortners -- I know we don't catch all of them yet... [04:08] Yeah, there's a shortener I wanna add but don't know how/have access to do so [04:08] I /think/ chfoo is the person with admin access, but I'm not at all sure. And in any case, I'd need to write the code first. [04:09] *** bwn has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:09] Yeah, chfoo's the urlteam contact [04:10] and arkiver [04:10] JesseW: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Tracker#People [04:11] ah, useful [04:11] Yep. [04:11] Wiki's got a ton of stuff on it [04:14] * JesseW restarting laptop to try and get new wireless card to work... [04:15] *** JesseW has left [04:18] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:18] OK, I'm back. 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[19:50] *** Joins: Start (~Start@[redacted]) [19:50] *** svchfoo3 sets mode: +o Start [19:58] *** Joins: useretail (useretail@[redacted]) [20:02] schbirid: if you do, you may want to adjust the number of reserve blocks [20:06] whoa, 93 G :) [20:06] thanks [20:12] yeah, some (most?) distros default to 5% and it can be a huge chunk of modern disks. [20:24] *** Quits: zenguy_pc (~oracle__@[redacted]) (Read error: Operation timed out) [20:26] suddenly, reviews: http://cryto.net/~joepie91/code-review.html [20:28] Open source only. It's like you are trying to let everyone benefit from your work. [20:29] aaaaaaaaa: imagine that! we can't have socially responsible software development... [20:29] You communist! [20:34] what is CoffeeScript? Wikipedia seems to imply it is just a language that is easy to turn into javascript, but for some reason it seems to me that there has to be more to it than that. [20:34] But then again, I'm not a programmer. [20:35] aaaaaaaaa: that's more or less what it is. it fixes a number of quirks in JS (and introduces some of its own) [20:35] aaaaaaaaa: but more importantly, it's much, MUCH faster to write [20:35] aaaaaaaaa: but yes, it just becomes JS in the end [20:37] *** Joins: Start_ (~Start@[redacted]) [20:37] *** Quits: Start (~Start@[redacted]) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:39] The much faster to write makes it make more sense. Was having trouble trying to figure out why you would write in the one language rather than the other. [20:39] and yes, I realize the extension of that line of thought is: "Assembly everythere!" [20:41] aaaaaaaaa: well, there's a few other reasons, though admittedly less since ES6 [20:41] aaaaaaaaa: eg. the ? operator which just doesn't exist in JS [20:41] but is greatly useful [20:41] (checks whether something is defined) [20:42] (also used for 'soaking up nulls' in longer property access chains, and setting defaults_) [20:42] function argument defaults [20:42] smaller lambda functions [20:42] etc [20:42] when used correctly, it can make code much easier to understand [20:42] when not used correctly... it can be a very big footgun, Perl-style :) [20:43] Just like any powerful tool. [20:43] aaaaaaaaa: well, coffeescript a bit more than most [20:44] let's just say that the coffeescript devs very clearly are not language designers [20:44] lol [20:44] http://webapplog.com/coffeescript-quirks/ [20:44] for a small excerpt [20:45] aaaaaaaaa: another issue with coffeescript is that the devs are... well, user-hostile is the only way to put it [20:45] or "hate users", rather [20:45] filing a ticket on the coffeescript repo -> 90% chance that it gets ignored, 5% chance that you get shouted at, 5% chance that some headway is made on fixing it [20:45] not very good odds [20:54] yeah, I've seen projects like that before and the honestly make me wonder why they have a public bug tracker at all [21:02] yep [21:02] aaaaaaaaa: i have a critical indentation bug open [21:02] sitting there for a few months now [21:02] not even a reply [21:03] of the "it compiles your code into the wrong place in your code, outside of the callback" type [21:03] which is a PRETTY BIG FUCKING DEAL [21:03] I'll take your word for it [21:07] *** RichardG_ is now known as RichardG [21:09] *** Quits: dxrt- (~dxrt@[redacted]) (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:10] *** Joins: dxrt (~dxrt@[redacted]) [21:10] heh, the sleeping of the 8tb drive is fun [21:11] i imagine it giving me puppy eyes, staring right into my soul, while letting out a minute long whistling fart [21:15] *** Quits: Start_ (~Start@[redacted]) (Quit: Disconnected.) 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[23:59] Umm… I have doubts about how much I could depend on that.