#archiveteam-bs 2015-12-08,Tue

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00:01 🔗 kyan Ok!
00:01 🔗 CatButts I'm bored
00:02 🔗 kyan Downloads http://futuramerlin.com/c/2015/05/28/329-new-compilation-demo-released-infinite-universe-electric-dream-redux/
00:02 🔗 kyan Streaming https://archive.org/details/InfiniteUniverseElectricDreamRedux/
00:02 🔗 kyan Most of it isn't finished exactly though -_-
00:05 🔗 * CatButts picks spacetime cause funky title
00:05 🔗 kyan Urgh, that's not one of the better ones, LOL
00:06 🔗 kyan I'd recommend "Guillemot" as the most listenable of my originals (there are a couple of remixes there)
00:07 🔗 kyan "The Truthteller" is kinda fun if you're into crazy goth orchestral stuff with randomness thrown in
00:07 🔗 kyan but it's fairly repetitive and drags on too long
00:09 🔗 kyan SpaceTime i wrote around 2009 or early 2010, I think
00:10 🔗 CatButts I was suppose to fap and go to sleep
00:10 🔗 CatButts but I am here instead
00:10 🔗 CatButts hahahahahaha
00:11 🔗 kyan that always happens to me
00:11 🔗 kyan i was up until like 5am last night archiving stuff
00:11 🔗 kyan right now I'm theoretically working on a 5000 word paper that's due tomorrow
00:11 🔗 kyan I haven't started it yet
00:12 🔗 kyan urgh
00:12 🔗 kyan I should get writing
00:12 🔗 kyan I can write fast, but not really fast
00:20 🔗 aaaaaaaaa that is 20 pages or so in standard font size, IIRC.
00:22 🔗 CatButts I must into sleep
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04:57 🔗 JesseW re: UPS -- I wonder how many zeros of donation to IA (or more relevantly, MADE) would make up for it. It's worth a suggestion, at least. <evil grin>
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05:15 🔗 yipdw awesome, I had to punch in "YHWH" as an Apple ID captcha
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06:31 🔗 xmc hah
06:35 🔗 kyan Last.fm: deleted my "about me" profile section, and replaced it with... Ads By Yahoo!! #progress
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07:01 🔗 JesseW xmc: the urlteam tracker seems to be very slow lately. Is there somewhere I can see some graphs to tell what might be causing it?
07:01 🔗 JesseW (asking you because IIRC, you have admin access to that box)
07:01 🔗 xmc zloty?
07:02 🔗 xmc what time frame should i compare
07:11 🔗 JesseW I don't know if it's named zloty.
07:11 🔗 JesseW Compare yesterday to a week ago.
07:12 🔗 JesseW You could also compare an hour 24 hours ago to the last hour.
07:12 🔗 JesseW xmc: ^
07:12 🔗 xmc well this is zloty, i don't see much out of place http://zeppelin.xrtc.net/corp.xrtc.net/zloty.corp.xrtc.net/index.html
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07:15 🔗 xmc i can provision it more cpu or more ram, but i think iops is not provisionable
07:16 🔗 brayden depends a lot on your provider
07:16 🔗 brayden I've only ever seen the hardcore enterprise ones really allow you to provision IOPS, e.g. Amazon AWS, Azure, etc.
07:16 🔗 brayden most providers it's like "if you want IOPS get an SSD" and that's it
07:17 🔗 xmc it's homegrown infra
07:18 🔗 brayden oh right...yeah, unless your hypervisor supports it you're kind of stuffed and I don't think many do
07:19 🔗 brayden Hyper-V does have a "storage quality of service" thing
07:19 🔗 brayden it's just throttling IOPS though
07:20 🔗 JesseW hm, I'll keep an eye on that zeppelin page, and see if I can recognize something
07:20 🔗 brayden oh cool and esxi apparently can do it too
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08:25 🔗 CatButts oh, oh, oh
08:25 🔗 * CatButts poek kyan
08:25 🔗 kyan ayyyy?
08:26 🔗 CatButts http://cat.butt.care:3434/pub/enis.it
08:26 🔗 kyan Thanks :D
08:26 🔗 CatButts PENIS
08:26 🔗 CatButts I found this on some imageboard
08:27 🔗 CatButts which reminds me
08:27 🔗 CatButts I have a backup of said imageboard
08:27 🔗 CatButts iichan's music/demoscene board
08:27 🔗 kyan stick it on Archive.org?
08:28 🔗 CatButts hmmm, never uploaded anything there
08:28 🔗 kyan It's pretty easy
08:28 🔗 CatButts also, there is a minor risk the backup contains CP due to spambots
08:28 🔗 kyan how big is the backup?
08:28 🔗 kyan oh...
08:28 🔗 CatButts so I may want to verify it first
08:29 🔗 CatButts the board suffered spambot attacks in its later stages of life
08:29 🔗 kyan that sucks
08:29 🔗 CatButts music.zip
08:29 🔗 CatButts 4.11 GB
08:34 🔗 CatButts yeah, so before I can do anything with that zip file, I need to check every page and thread in it
08:37 🔗 CatButts http://iiichan.net/boards/music/wakaba.html oh, it's still up
08:37 🔗 CatButts and it appears to have been cleaned
08:37 🔗 CatButts 'appears' is the opperative word here
08:38 🔗 CatButts older files and threads have been nuked to save space
08:39 🔗 CatButts kinda lame
08:39 🔗 CatButts nope, just the files
08:40 🔗 CatButts >35
08:40 🔗 CatButts older pages and threads too
08:42 🔗 CatButts there were like
08:42 🔗 CatButts I dunno
08:42 🔗 CatButts 80 pages?
08:43 🔗 CatButts anyway, I am not exactly eager to crawl through all of them for verification
08:45 🔗 CatButts pages and the hundreds of threads
08:49 🔗 CatButts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo2UgJnNbOQ cool free ringtones
08:52 🔗 CatButts fancy FM synth
09:01 🔗 kyan Wow, this documentation is awful... run "sudo pip install pil" and it says, "Some externally hosted files were ignored (use --allow-external pil to allow)"
09:02 🔗 kyan run "sudo pip install --allow-external pil" and it says, "You must give at least one requirement to install (see "pip help install")"
09:02 🔗 kyan The answer to this obscenely poorly written prompt is to run: "sudo pip install --allow-external pil --allow-unverified pil pil".
09:02 🔗 kyan Like I'd have guessed THAT without googling it.
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09:13 🔗 joepie91 welcome to Python-land, kyan
09:13 🔗 joepie91 :p
09:14 🔗 kyan urrrrrgh
09:14 🔗 kyan ...
09:14 🔗 kyan :P
09:17 🔗 CatButts http://iiichan.net/boards/music/src/moonstar.mp3 \o/
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09:20 🔗 kyan I'm trying to build a project I found on GitHub. It has a README! Yay! except all that the readme says is "There have been nearly 2 million downloads to date." Not a single thing about how to go about building and configuring the package.
09:21 🔗 kyan ...and it needs several OTHER packages from the same developer to be in the right places and configured first.
09:21 🔗 kyan Without ANY documentation whatsoever.
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09:22 🔗 kyan And why the hell don't the home/end keys in Finder go to the first or last files in the folder?
09:22 🔗 kyan I don't see why there are so many blatantly obvious improvements that could be made to software in general
09:22 🔗 kyan but it just keeps sucking, year in and year out
09:24 🔗 vitzli one dude just posted 311 songbird voices (from reel tapes) from Ural mountains
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09:58 🔗 joepie91 kyan: because too many people are convinced that "it's fine this way" and "I don't owe my users anything" and "you're nitpicking, that's not a significant issue" and various other fallacies
09:58 🔗 joepie91 kyan: apparently people would rather spend 10 minutes explaining why a 5 minute fix is not worth their time
09:58 🔗 joepie91 lol
09:58 🔗 HCross https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uC3S9m1hJs is a quite good video about "stuff going away"
09:59 🔗 kyan I guess, but when I've purchased commercial software? They definitely owe their users something.
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10:02 🔗 joepie91 kyan: often the person you are purchasing from is not the person writing the code
10:03 🔗 kyan True, but presumably they hire them
10:03 🔗 kyan and pay them to fix their shit
10:03 🔗 joepie91 kyan: and the person writing the code hates his job and doesn't care and just wants his paycheck and spending 10 minutes fixing that bug is just likely to get them reprimanded by the boss so why would they?
10:03 🔗 kyan I... guess...
10:03 🔗 kyan but I'd think that would lose them customers
10:03 🔗 kyan in the long term
10:03 🔗 joepie91 of course not
10:04 🔗 joepie91 they just need to balance cutting corners
10:04 🔗 joepie91 so that it is tolerable enough for retention
10:04 🔗 joepie91 and competition
10:04 🔗 joepie91 but cheap enough to maintain
10:04 🔗 kyan Meh, I guess
10:04 🔗 joepie91 it's a business - cost/benefits optimization is what they do
10:04 🔗 joepie91 (see also: why commercial software development doesn't work)
10:08 🔗 joepie91 kyan: can you tell that I'm bitter about the software industry? ;)
10:08 🔗 kyan yep :P
10:08 🔗 joepie91 kyan: have you read http://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks ?
10:08 🔗 kyan nope
10:08 🔗 kyan reading now
10:08 🔗 joepie91 hehe.
10:09 🔗 joepie91 I think you'll enjoy it
10:09 🔗 joepie91 one of the most delicious rants I've read, ever
10:10 🔗 kyan nice :D
10:11 🔗 joepie91 "Most people don't even know what sysadmins do, but trust me, if they all took a lunch break at the same time they wouldn't make it to the deli before you ran out of bullets protecting your canned goods from roving bands of mutants."
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10:43 🔗 kyan Firefox "fixed" a "security" bug that let Web pages link to the about:reader (stripped-down) version of a page.
10:43 🔗 kyan By making it so the about:reader pages can't be linked to.
10:44 🔗 kyan I've spent the past 3–4 hours trying to get a toolbar button to work that opens the about:reader version of a page.
10:44 🔗 ersi joepie91: lol, what bullshit :D
10:44 🔗 kyan Turns out it doesn't just block pages from linking to it, but any non-officially-built-in toolbar buttons as well
10:46 🔗 joepie91 ersi: mm/
10:46 🔗 joepie91 ?*
10:46 🔗 ersi joepie91: that last quote :D
10:52 🔗 CatButts what is about:reader
10:54 🔗 kyan it's a readable-version of a page
10:54 🔗 kyan (without ads and stuff)
10:54 🔗 kyan I figured out how to do it though!
10:54 🔗 kyan Use the custom buttons addon and put "(function() {ReaderParent.toggleReaderMode(event);})()" in the Code tab.
10:54 🔗 kyan Yesssssssss.
10:54 🔗 CatButts about:reader gives me blank page
10:56 🔗 kyan Try this about:reader?url=https://codefisher.org/toolbar_button/link-button-maker/
10:56 🔗 kyan You need to tell it what page to clean up
10:56 🔗 kyan CatButts: ^
10:57 🔗 CatButts interdasting
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17:54 🔗 yipdw botpie91: tell kyan that it really is a security vulnerability https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778582
17:54 🔗 botpie91 yipdw: I'll pass that on when kyan is around.
17:55 🔗 yipdw also, assloads of blip and reaction videos now flowing into IA
17:56 🔗 yipdw future generations will now know that we produced nothing and just got outraged at stupid shit
17:56 🔗 xmc A+
17:56 🔗 yipdw they will grow depressed as they walk outside the life-supporting domes
17:57 🔗 yipdw the agony of smog entering your lungs is sadness leaving the body you see
18:29 🔗 godane i'm starting to upload may 4th and 5th of 2008 of funny or die
18:29 🔗 wyatt8740 I just was playing one of the unofficial internal BBC christmas tapes (this one from 1980) and I found the main cast of Star Wars, except Alec Guiness (Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, presumably David Prowse + Anthony Daniels + Kenny Baker + Peter Mayhew in costume) wishing the Videotape department a merry xmas. http://i.imgur.com/YMTKn4c.png
18:31 🔗 wyatt8740 I have digital copies of a few of those tapes but I'm not sure on the legality of them. Are they the type of thing I should upload?
18:31 🔗 godane yes
18:32 🔗 godane at worse they get dmca but IA will keep it
18:32 🔗 wyatt8740 it'll just be de-listed?
18:32 🔗 godane yes
18:32 🔗 wyatt8740 alright then
18:33 🔗 wyatt8740 would that be categorized as 'television' even though it never aired (for good reason)?
18:34 🔗 godane it could be categorized as vhs or beta
18:34 🔗 xmc yep, but you might have to put it in "community video" because you may not have permission to add to the "television" collection
18:34 🔗 wyatt8740 godane: this is straight from a master tape
18:34 🔗 wyatt8740 2 inch quadruplex
18:34 🔗 godane ok
18:34 🔗 xmc ooo
18:34 🔗 godane cool
18:34 🔗 xmc spiffy
18:38 🔗 wyatt8740 xmc: I almost definitely don't have the permissions. Will pop them into community one by one.
18:39 🔗 wyatt8740 No license?
18:40 🔗 wyatt8740 I do know that these tapes leaked a long while ago and were spread over VHS/beta tapes in the 80s
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19:57 🔗 SimpBrain wow http://www.server4you.net/vps knocking some heavy deals on those vps's
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20:02 🔗 SimpBrain im looking at seeing if resuming can be done to help grab-site/archivebot esp when they tend to seg fault
20:03 🔗 phuzion SimpBrain: While that would certainly be a noble goal, why not aim toward fixing the segfaults too?
20:03 🔗 SimpBrain i'll look at them later :)
20:10 🔗 phuzion Cool.
20:11 🔗 SimpBrain resuming would help any jobs that seg faults and resume any jobs
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20:22 🔗 phuzion SimpBrain: Yeah, I know. It's useful in many instances. But fixing the segfaults is useful too. :)
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