[00:00] http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/16/5d-discs-can-store-data-until-well-after-the-sun-burns-out/ 360 tb per disk seems intressting [00:03] 360TB per disk seems like it'd take rather a while to FSCK, but that's just me [00:04] I can't find ANYTHING on throughput [00:11] now you can lose 360TB of data all at once! [00:19] it would have to be about 150 to 300gb per a second [00:19] to be close to the speed cds had [00:20] maybe 1x can be as low as 50 to 60gb a second [00:20] but not much slower then that [00:21] btw CD is 150kb/s on 1x storage is 650mb/700mb per a disc [00:23] I can't even get blu-rays to burn at 1MB/sec under Linux, FFS. One I started at "4x" seven hours ago is plodding along at 899KB/sec, sigh. I think it would literally take a lifetime to burn 360TB at that speed. [00:25] http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/17/fandango-buys-rotten-tomatoes-flixster/ [00:26] 12 years for that snape :P [00:28] Wow, is that all? Huh. Now if the computer industry can once again make a PSU that lasts that long... [00:37] *** robink has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 190 seconds) [00:38] *** robink has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:38] *** metalcamp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [00:41] *** robink has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 190 seconds) [00:42] *** slyphic|a is now known as slyphic [00:42] *** robink has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:51] *** wednesday has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [00:54] *** wednesday has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:27] so IA is not taking my files now [01:29] or at least rejecting files i'm giving it at random [01:34] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:51] blip.tv grab wasn't nearly complete :/ [01:53] *** JetBalsa has quit IRC (Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -) [02:19] *** vitzli has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:26] *** ndiddy has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:42] *** vitzli has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [02:59] *** matthusby has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:01] *** SN4T14 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 362 seconds) [03:02] *** jspiros has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:02] *** SadDM has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:05] espes___: unfortunately, there were at least two blip mass-closure events- the first time when they re-focused, and asked the people who weren't regularly putting up videos to leave, and then when blip closed [03:11] *** SN4T14 has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:16] *** xXx_ndidd has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:19] *** oldcad has left [03:21] *** ndizzle has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:25] *** ndiddy has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [03:32] *** xXx_ndidd has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [04:44] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp0DqARvjwY -- Helicopter, air saw trimming trees [04:52] *** bwn has joined #archiveteam-bs [05:10] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 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[07:25] *** DFJustin has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [07:27] *** DFJustin has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:45] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:47] *** vitzli has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:59] *** vitzli has quit IRC (Leaving) [08:06] *** RichardG has joined #archiveteam-bs [08:47] *** bwn has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [08:48] *** SadDM has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [08:48] *** SadDM has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:06] *** bwn has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:15] *** SadDM has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [09:15] *** SadDM has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:48] http://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2016/02/5d-data-storage-update.page [09:48] tha fucking woot [09:48] "360 TB/disc data capacity, thermal stability up to 1,000°C " [10:01] *** logan2 has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:02] just think about that, 360TB per disk, disks seem to be the size of a quarter, one roll of these disks would be 14PB of data [10:03] I'm slightly turned on at the thought [10:04] no idea what it costs per disk, but stable storage and just ship it around the world [10:04] *** logan has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:05] piggybank at a couple of people and just send updated data in a envelope and add it to your piggybank [10:05] I'd store them in a fire [10:05] so called, hot data [10:06] i'd freeze them, cold storage. [10:07] virtually unlimited lifetime at room temperature (13.8 billion years at 190°C [10:07] my room isnt 190 degrees :< [10:07] seems to be a bit, hot [10:07] We could fix that [10:08] not sure if i can keep it at 190 degrees for 13.8 billion years tho, that's one hell of a heating bill [10:08] for sure [10:08] Maybe if the fire can be fueled by irony and sarcasm [10:08] then I could keep it going for a while [10:08] that would be perfect [10:08] we have enough of that laying around anyway [10:09] *** metalcamp has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:09] And it's re-newable! [10:09] no waste products that we cant hide [10:10] mostly broken dreams [10:17] ersi: fuel it on butthurt [10:20] *** zhongfu has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [10:21] *** zhongfu has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:43] *** zhongfu has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [10:44] *** Fletcher has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 633 seconds) [10:44] *** zhongfu has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:08] *** logan2 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [11:09] *** logan has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:24] *** Fletcher has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:55] *** xXx_ndidd has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:05] *** arkiver3 has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:07] *** Fletcher_ sets mode: +o Fletcher [12:09] *** ndizzle has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [12:38] *** VADemon has joined #archiveteam-bs [13:22] *** arkiver3 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:52] *** arkiver3 has joined #archiveteam-bs [13:55] *** vitzli has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:05] *** arkiver3 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [14:30] *** arkiver3 has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:06] *** slyphic has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:12] *** Start has quit IRC (Quit: Disconnected.) [15:16] *** SadDM has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:29] *** kvieta has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:30] *** arkiver3 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [15:38] Sarcasm is such an abundant natural resource it's given away free every day to millions of well-deserving souls. I do slightly worry that finding a way to convert sarcasm into motive power could have disastrous far-reaching consequences, as surly teenagers are forced to confront the tragic awkwardness of having accidentally become productive members of society. There are always more where they came from though, I suppose. :/ [15:40] when will Tesla start updating the model S to sarcasm mode? [15:40] http://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2016/02/5d-data-storage-update.page [15:41] looks like someone finally did proper crystal storage [15:41] noice [15:41] bandwidth - not so much [15:41] on reddit somebody said about ~75 kB/s [15:42] speed isn't the purpose of this medium, anyway [15:42] but it's still slow ofc [15:44] midas, first science has to tackle fundamental principles of development like how to properly quantize, store, and tax sarcasm... [15:44] I have wondered for a long time how feasible it would be, crystal or engraved metals for storing data [15:44] digital data* [15:44] 1 unit of sarcasm - 1 Ba [15:44] 1 Meh [15:45] Ba for Blackadder [15:45] 1 Sure [15:45] hahaha [15:47] I'd think it would be the Snark, myself. [15:47] Long Now Foundation has microtext-engraved metal-something plate [15:49] mBa [15:49] The Millenniata M-Discs are apparently something akin to engraved crystal, or at least glass. [15:49] miBa [15:49] hmmm [15:50] *** Start has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:51] Problem with the Blackadder is surely the abbreviation should be "Bl". "Ba" looks like it should be called the "Baldrick". [15:51] ...which is perhaps an appropriate name for a unit of measure of cunning, or something. [15:56] snape: thats easy, we store them in the tears of broken dreams, thats how it works [16:00] Maybe we already are. Maybe those torturous "talent" shows like The Voice are a part of the bitter-tears-of-broken-dreams harvesting programme... [16:07] nah, thats just the cringe harvesting system [16:10] Suppose it's more humane than forcing people to watch Wayans Brothers movies, like they did it in the old days. [16:20] this cat knows http://imgur.com/gallery/iwZ8IKX [16:24] *** arkiver3 has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:31] *** arkiver3 has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [16:32] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:39] http://www.dailytech.com/Scientists+Create+360+TB+Superman+Crystal+Discs/article31933.htm article on 360 TB discs from 2013, last names are the same and Univ. of Southampton [16:39] and, well, russia today, but from 2013 too : https://www.rt.com/news/5d-nanostructured-glass-optical-memory-941/ [16:42] and the quotes on www.southampton.ac.uk and dailytech.com are the same, "It is thrilling to think that we have created the first document which…" [16:47] *** GLaDOS has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:54] *** slyphic is now known as slyphic|a [16:54] *** slyphic|a is now known as slyphic [16:57] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [17:07] *** Start has quit IRC (Quit: Disconnected.) 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[19:47] *** JW_work has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:52] *** JW_work1 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:54] *** Start has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:01] oh god http://retro.andro.io/cat-22-social [20:04] http://cocoaobjects.com/cocoaobjects-is-closing-down/ [20:07] looks like a bot job [20:24] *** signius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [20:35] *** bwn_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:38] *** signius has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:42] *** GLaDOS has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:45] *** Start has quit IRC (Quit: Disconnected.) [20:47] *** bwn has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:12] *** closure has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:17] *** VADemon has quit IRC (Quit: left4dead) [21:21] *** ndiddy has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:26] *** xXx_ndidd has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 499 seconds) [21:29] *** wacky has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:34] HCross: I'm around, briefly [21:35] https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos_zzt is almost done getting screenshots. What a bonanza! [21:39] *** RedType has left [21:40] oh man, the nostalgia. I have fond memories of playing ZZT for like twelve hours on a snow day in junior high, eventually giving myself severe motion sickness... [21:43] ivan`, weve got a case of grab-site doing strangeness under high load [21:45] and also it seems to get the same URL repeatably sometimes [21:48] https://github.com/ludios/grab-site/issues/52 im referring troo [21:48] oto [21:48] too [21:53] to* [21:53] :P [21:53] 2 ??? [21:54] I cant type tonight [21:58] can't* [21:58] * joepie91 runs [21:58] haha [21:58] Et tu? :) [22:03] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:03] HCross: yeah that one is hard. it's probably sqlite, sqlalchemy, or python3 itself [22:03] heh [22:03] "it's probably any one of the dependencies we use" [22:03] :P [22:04] need a time-reversible debugger & a semi-reproducible scenario where I run 100 grab-sites at once or something [22:04] software dev in a nutshell [22:04] HCross: getting the same URL repeatedly is expected if pages redirect to it [22:06] not wanting to deal with these kinds of bugs that are almost impossible to track down is why I'm learning Rust [22:06] though I guess it would be useful to learn how to track them down as well [22:07] the problem is that the heap corruption happens some time before the actual crash [22:07] Ah ok. NewsBuddy suddenly thought that doing 40 crawls over 8 cores was a good idea [22:09] and half of them were videos [22:11] *** Stiletto has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:57] should that be expected though, I know it does retrieve urls twice if there's a redirect but what is the point [23:11] https://twitter.com/joepie91/status/700457005899763712 [23:11] ^ kills Wired's ad-blocker wall [23:14] *** bwn__ has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:16] *** bwn has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:18] *** xXx_ndidd has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:21] *** Muad-Dib has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [23:21] *** Rickster has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [23:23] *** Famicoman has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [23:24] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [23:26] *** bwn__ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:27] *** bwn_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:28] *** Muad-Dib has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:30] *** ndiddy has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:33] *** Rickster has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:37] *** Start has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:41] *** Chorca has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [23:46] *** Stiletto has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:48] *** Chorca has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:54] Hm. How much of slashdot has been archived in the Wayback Machine? As much of a cesspool is it may be nowadays, it has valuable history that should be grabbed, IMO...