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godane |
i'm starting to upload some of my daily sitemap dumps |
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00:04
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godane |
of medium.com |
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00:05
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tfgbd |
I found a cheap VPS some people may want to use |
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00:12
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hook54321 |
tfgbd: what is it called? |
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00:12
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ranma |
is there a video of The Walking Dead - Digital Frenimes? |
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00:14
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tfgbd |
It's called CloudAtCost.com |
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00:15
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tfgbd |
I got their 4GB plan for $28 with a 90% off coupon |
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00:16
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ranma |
i want storage and idgaf about ram or cpu |
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00:16
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ranma |
@_@ |
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00:17
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godane |
i'm trying to wget this page: https://medium.com/p/1821a2e41ac |
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00:17
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hook54321 |
was $28 the price before or after the coupon? |
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00:17
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tfgbd |
After |
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00:17
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godane |
the redirect turns into this: https://medium.com/@drone.dock/%E3%83%89%E3%83%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%B3%E3%81%A7%E5%AE%85%E9%85%8D-%EF%BC%93%E5%B9%B4%E4%BB%A5%E5%86%85%E3%81%AB-%E6%94%BF%E5%BA%9C%E7%9B%AE%E6%A8%99-%E8%A6%8F%E5%88%B6%E7%B7%A9%E5%92%8C%E3%82%92%E5%8A%A0%E9%80%9F-1821a2e41ac |
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00:17
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godane |
but i get 404 errors |
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00:17
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godane |
but the page exist |
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00:18
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tfgbd |
Their lowest plan is supposed to be $35 for a 512mb instance |
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00:18
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hook54321 |
was it 4GB of ram or 4gb of storage? |
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00:18
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godane |
so how do i get wget take urls like that |
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00:18
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tfgbd |
It's the 4th plan on the site |
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00:18
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hook54321 |
k |
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00:19
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hook54321 |
Wait, it says "one time" does that mean you don't have to pay monthly? O_O |
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00:20
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tfgbd |
But if you make a 10GB instance, you actually get 60GB because they misconfigured it |
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00:20
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tfgbd |
But that only seems to work with Windows |
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00:20
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tfgbd |
It's VMware, though |
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00:20
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Ducky_ |
cloudatcost? is that per year? |
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00:21
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tfgbd |
Supposedly forever |
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00:21
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Ducky_ |
LOL |
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00:21
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Ducky_ |
sorry, I mean I never trust that |
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00:21
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tfgbd |
Or I assume until they go out of business |
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00:21
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tfgbd |
I know, it's insanely cheap |
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00:21
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Ducky_ |
but for just using/abusing |
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00:21
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Ducky_ |
nice |
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00:21
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Ducky_ |
don't forget google cloud gives $300 for 60 days |
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00:21
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tfgbd |
So far I had one unwanted reboot in 2 weeks of having the service |
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00:22
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Ducky_ |
I spun up 64 instances of warrior on it |
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00:22
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Ducky_ |
using docker |
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00:22
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ranma |
lol |
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00:22
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tfgbd |
Google offers VPSes? |
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00:22
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Ducky_ |
yeah "cloud" |
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00:22
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Ducky_ |
https://console.cloud.google.com/compute |
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tfgbd |
How much? |
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00:22
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Ducky_ |
no idea per month I just used the free trial |
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00:22
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tfgbd |
You get root access? |
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Ducky_ |
yep |
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00:22
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Ducky_ |
just like amazon aws |
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00:22
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tfgbd |
I see |
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00:22
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tfgbd |
Does it use Xen? |
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00:23
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tfgbd |
See, on CAC you should be able to run a VM in your VM |
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00:23
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ranma |
<tfgbd> It's VMware, though |
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Ducky_ |
I'm going to assume so given everyone does |
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00:23
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Ducky_ |
vm in vm requires a certain processor from memory |
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tfgbd |
No |
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tfgbd |
Just certain software |
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Ducky_ |
it doesn't? |
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tfgbd |
VirtualBox or VMware will work |
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Ducky_ |
hm.. |
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tfgbd |
You just need to install them |
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00:24
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Ducky_ |
you sure the chip doesn't need to support it? |
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tfgbd |
Yes |
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00:24
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Ducky_ |
I'm fairly sure I couldn't do vm in vm in vmware 6 years ago |
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00:24
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tfgbd |
How do you think X86 virtualization was done before x86 supported it in hardware |
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00:24
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tfgbd |
Ducky: You always could. |
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00:24
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tfgbd |
Use older versions |
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00:24
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tfgbd |
But the newer ones work too.. |
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tfgbd |
They just warn you on first start |
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tfgbd |
And you can't run a 64bit OS |
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Ducky_ |
um.. it was using translation or something |
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00:25
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Ducky_ |
but you couldn't do vm in vm |
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00:25
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Ducky_ |
maybe you could |
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tfgbd |
It uses partial emulation for low level CPU calls |
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00:25
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Ducky_ |
hey |
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00:25
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Ducky_ |
who wanted to grab netflix |
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00:25
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Ducky_ |
http://feed.torrentfreak.com/~r/Torrentfreak/~3/D5IBVInJj7g/ |
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Ducky_ |
interesting |
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00:26
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tfgbd |
It doesn't work on Xen but it will work on VMware or KVM or other full machine virtualization packages |
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00:26
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tfgbd |
That's why I don't like Xen |
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00:26
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tfgbd |
And was wondering if Google uses it |
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00:26
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Ducky_ |
not sure I just used docker for warrior |
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00:26
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Ducky_ |
not saying you are wrong you seem to know alot about this topic |
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00:27
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Ducky_ |
but do you have a source for that? |
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00:27
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Ducky_ |
I've always thought it was the other way round lol |
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00:29
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tfgbd |
I know it because I've tried it |
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00:29
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tfgbd |
I'll get you a screenshot |
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00:29
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Ducky_ |
since you seem to know alot is vbox anygood? |
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00:29
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Ducky_ |
security wise |
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00:30
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tfgbd |
I don't know about that. What do you mean security wise |
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00:30
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Ducky_ |
isolation |
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00:30
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Ducky_ |
well, more of ability to break out of vm |
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00:31
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Ducky_ |
vmware had that floppy driver exploit |
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00:31
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tfgbd |
I see |
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00:31
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tfgbd |
No idea. It's updated pretty frequently (and I don't care about that) |
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00:38
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tfgbd |
Have a screenshot: http://s33.postimg.org/qaj0v6pjh/CAC_NT351_WKS.jpg |
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00:39
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tfgbd |
This is running on a VPS |
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00:39
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tfgbd |
Virtualbox, VMWare and Virtual PC will run inside VMWare or KVM |
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00:40
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Ducky_ |
nice!!! |
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00:40
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Ducky_ |
wow |
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00:40
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Ducky_ |
cool |
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00:40
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Ducky_ |
two windows update notifications in sys tray? |
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00:42
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tfgbd |
Didn't even notice |
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00:42
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Ducky_ |
lol |
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00:46
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tfgbd |
CAC doesn't support arbitrary OSes but it was easier to just run it in a VM |
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00:47
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hook54321 |
tfgbd: how did you get the 90% discount? |
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00:47
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tfgbd |
I found it online |
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00:47
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hook54321 |
link? |
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00:47
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tfgbd |
Supposedly the 70% discount still works |
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00:47
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tfgbd |
90% died a few days ago |
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00:47
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hook54321 |
darn |
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00:47
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tfgbd |
But they may have one again |
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00:47
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tfgbd |
This weird company is all about discounts |
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00:48
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tfgbd |
But be careful, some people have complained about losing their data there. |
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00:48
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hook54321 |
Sounds like the drive through, sonic. :P |
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00:48
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tfgbd |
But I guess that doesn't matter for you guys |
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00:48
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hook54321 |
Why doesn't it matter? |
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00:48
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hook54321 |
How much would the 70% discount bring it down to? |
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00:48
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tfgbd |
I thought you guys were all about disposable VPS |
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00:49
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tfgbd |
Here is where I found the 90% coupon https://mobile.twitter.com/cloudatcost/status/726099520866672646 |
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00:49
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tfgbd |
70% coupon code is "TAKE70" |
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00:49
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tfgbd |
Enter it in the cart to see your discount (if it still works) |
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00:50
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hook54321 |
why would we all want a disposable VPS? |
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00:51
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tfgbd |
Well, you're using 60 day trials with Google |
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00:51
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tfgbd |
To run the archiveteam tools |
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00:51
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hook54321 |
who is? |
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00:52
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hook54321 |
wait. do we need a credit card to get the free trial? |
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00:52
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tfgbd |
Duckey was |
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00:53
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tfgbd |
hook54321: Do you mean for Google? |
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hook54321 |
yeah |
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00:54
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hook54321 |
I just looked, you do, but they apparently won't autocharge it after the trial ends. |
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00:54
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tfgbd |
CAC needs Paypal |
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01:03
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murk |
in the WARC format is there any reason the GUID isn't just the hash of the file? |
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01:04
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murk |
it seems like it's designed to make the hash field optional for performance but that doesn't really hold water. |
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01:23
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hook54321 |
https://twitter.com/cloudatcost/status/736252495450808320 |
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01:38
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yipdw |
murk: a WARC record and its payload aren't the same thing, so there doesn't seem like a good reason to tie them together |
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01:39
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yipdw |
you could for example have identical response payloads with different record IDs |
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01:39
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yipdw |
if they differ in some other way, e.g. WARC-Concurrent-To or date etc |
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hook54321 |
can you do gaming on a vps? |
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ranma |
you can at least run a source engine server on a vps ;o |
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01:51
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hook54321 |
But like, can you play a game on a vps? :P |
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Rotab |
run games? possibly |
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Rotab |
play games? no |
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Rotab |
actually, amazon has some instances with GPUs, so i guess you couuuld |
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hook54321 |
It would probably be ridiculously expensive though. |
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hook54321 |
What kind o people have access to the archive-it service? |
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03:11
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hook54321 |
*of |
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murk |
yipdw: good point. |
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hook54321 |
why isn't the archive-it software open source? |
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hook54321 |
Also, it isn't free, right? Because according to alternative-to it's free. :( http://alternativeto.net/software/archive-it/ |
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hook54321 |
@SketchCow do you know? |
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Ducky_ |
oh what's archive-it? |
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hook54321 |
A project by the Internet Archive that appears to be ironically closed-source -_- |
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hook54321 |
http://archive-it.org |
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Ducky_ |
closed source eww |
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hook54321 |
I don't understand why they wouldn't release source code for it. It seems almost like an archivebot backend with an interface to search, organize, and archive stuff |
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luckcolor |
botpie -help |
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botpie91 |
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HCross |
http://english.eu2016.nl/latest/news/2016/05/27/all-european-scientific-articles-to-be-freely-accessible-by-2020 I guess we have a lot to archive then |
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Simpbra1 |
thats a win for sci hub then |
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