[00:03] *notices [00:17] *** tfgbd_znc has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 633 seconds) [00:27] No [00:27] On crap [00:27] With a capital K [00:29] *** kristian_ has quit IRC (Leaving) [00:32] I hate Ctrl+Q [00:33] I keep closing my browser by accident [00:49] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:56] lol [00:58] *** DoomTay has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:52] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:09] this is an interesting article: http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/15/12482158/internet-lost-stuff-youtube-facebook-search (if you don't back up stuff, it may be impossible to find again when you think about it again) [02:13] I've gone through that a handful of times [02:24] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [03:14] irc logs are nice for that [03:15] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:33] *** RichardG has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [03:40] *** tomwsmf has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [03:54] *** RichardG has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:13] *** ravetcofx has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:16] *** ravetcofx has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:16] How did DoomTay get unblocked [04:17] http://www.mentalfloss.com/article/84742/introducing-misconceptions-our-brand-new-podcast [04:18] https://archive.org/details/magazines_russian?&sort=-publicdate&page=1 is all chip magazine [04:18] *** SketchCow sets mode: +b *!*Thunderbi@*.res.bhn.net [04:18] *** DoomTay was kicked by SketchCow (DoomTay) [04:23] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [04:26] why did you ban DoomTay exactly? [04:29] I really want to spend the time to explain it, but I did it before. [04:29] And then he came back [04:29] No apology, no discussion, just came back like, you know, he's owed being here [04:29] And then kept being what he was [04:29] And now he thinks this is just some place he can be [04:30] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:33] Well, ban evasion, yes. But I meant why in general [04:40] I don't get it. Why was he banned in the first place? :P [04:41] I realize I could sit here and recount, but I really just got up from a nap and I need to continue working [04:42] I'll check the logs [04:43] The FOS drive I'm trying to murder is down to 50% now. [04:43] what channel did you explain it in? [04:45] i don't believe he did but it's fine, i was just curious [04:45] Frogging: The first time I saw him banned was earlier today, is that accurate? [04:46] yeah [04:48] Frogging: I'm guessing this was it? http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam-bs?date=2016-08-16,Tue&sel=173#l169 [04:48] mhm [04:49] I'm guessing DoomTay didn't understand that it was an exaggeration. [04:49] Exaggeration might not be the right word. [04:50] This probably helps explain the banning (note the timestamps): http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log_search/archiveteam-bs?search=SketchCow%3B+DoomTay&action=search&error=0 [04:51] particularly the first one (June 16th) [04:55] oh, I see. [04:55] yeah, this is not a sudden thing [04:56] I don't exactly understand the context of the one from the 16th. [04:58] as i understand it, that was an initial "does anyone want to defend the value of this person being in this channel" request. [04:59] Has he been useful at all? [05:00] Yeah, he's suggested various useful things to archive, and grabbed some stuff himself, as I understand. [05:06] Sigh [05:06] Oh boy, I am going to enjoy the next 30 minutes of my life. [05:07] In short: DoomTay is an incredibly talented person at deciding what is going on, and then reporting it to people as facts, and then holding to it, misinforming people, continually. [05:07] Also tends to... wait for it.... demand explanations as to why everything is happening, bites newbies, jumps into conversations with no facts and keeps going, etc. [05:08] Now, we have a few people like that, but DoomTay was and is continually doing so, and it's one of the personality types that can be really problematic in the Archive Team situation. [05:08] Because we're a tiger team here, and someone jumping in with Non-Information can be really problematic when time or effort is of the essence. [05:08] Now, most of our most productive people have either blocked/ignored DoomTay or written him off. [05:09] But still, he's a real problem when he just. Won't. Shut. Up. [05:09] A light example, but I made some joke about Twitter, because it was down. [05:10] Twitter 12:05 < DoomTay> Now that I think about it, it's kinda hilarious that Jason somehow concluded Twitter was "dead" just because the site was having problems [05:10] See, that's entirely not true. [05:10] It's a joke, and he makes an assumption, and reports it. [05:10] I'm not saying THIS case is something work kicking. I'm saying he does this ALL THE GODDAMMNED TIME [05:11] Am I now starting, sort of, to make it clear where this is coming from? [05:11] Sort of? [05:11] He seems to have a few stereotypical mannerisms that someone with Asperger's Syndrome might have. [05:11] I can crawl through months of DoomTay transgressions, but I'd really need something like 14 wrists to slit [05:11] yeah, it made more sense after reading those logs [05:12] Makes plenty of sense to me, FWIW. (I don't consider myself one of the "most productive people", though) [05:12] If I'm ever problematic like that or in another way, let me know. [05:14] Oh, you are VERY productive [05:14] With that overactive searching/verify skill [05:14] That's actually an incredible hard skill [05:14] Especially for a volunteer [05:14] thank you [05:15] hook54321: I'll try to warn you if I notice anything (but I'm not sure I'd see it) [05:17] I'm overactive about most stuff I care about (as long as I'm not lazy about it). However, that can make me incredibly persistent, and it can sometimes be seen as annoying. [06:02] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [07:48] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:08] *** Honno has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:10] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:25] *** SketchCow has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:28] *** SketchCow has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:28] *** swebb sets mode: +o SketchCow [11:55] I hope I don't come across as annoying [12:27] SketchCow: would you look at this: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=129353#c58 [12:27] and as I suspected, the twat is indeed working in the adblocking-blocking industry [12:59] *** BlueMaxim has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [13:08] joepie91: [plugin] are breaking core JS functionality [13:08] what the hell does that even mean [13:10] Frogging: it means that an advertising industry twat is making make-believe arguments to further their own gaenda [13:10] agenda* [13:10] ah. that's fun [13:10] trying to make a plausible-sounding security argument to make it impossible to use the wrapper trick [13:10] to block websocket ads [13:11] while conveniently ignoring the fact that that means you just *can't block ads at all* [13:11] which is of course beneficial to his job [13:11] and all of that while not disclosing their position [13:11] I seriously despise people like this [13:41] Putting out another call for newsbuddy grabbers. We really want to shove more news in, but right now we don't have downloading capacity [13:48] *** bauruine has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [13:53] *** bauruine has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:00] HCross2: what are the requirements? [14:02] A decent bit of bw, and a ok CPU. All requirements get smaller with the more grabbers we have. [14:05] 1982 of nasa docs are done [14:12] john@kitsune:~/notes$ sudo apt-get install emacs [14:12] After this operation, 184 MB of additional disk space will be used. [14:12] o.o [14:13] that's huge for a... text editor [14:26] it's more of a way of life [14:46] Frogging: it's an OS with text editing functionality [14:46] :P [14:46] HCross2: right, but in concrete numbers? [14:47] HCross2: ballpark :P [14:47] At the moment it's pegging my online.net xc at full CPU. [14:47] Kaz: as well [14:52] *** voltagex has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:57] HCross2: hm. what's it using the CPU for? also, what are the disk/RAM requirements? [15:07] Grab site, and the sheer number of crawls. Around 4gb ram and say 30gb disk [15:10] ah, hm, that's quite a bit [15:10] the RAM [15:12] Can be done with less, it's probably less but I don't have access to a crawler right now to check [15:15] HCross2: I can probably spare 2 gigs or so on my OVH box, and (part of) one CPU core... [15:15] HCross2: however, it has a few reallocated sectors in the SMART data, so keep that in mind [15:15] I might also have a few unused VPSes laying around with less RAM [15:15] so depending on whether you can limit the amount of tasks that are handed out... [15:16] CPU will be the factor. It all depends on how fast you return as it simply sends 2 tasks out an hour [15:22] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:08] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [17:33] *** kristian_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:06] *** JW_work has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 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(Leaving) [23:51] Frogging are we going to grab ytmd?!?! [23:51] look in #archiveteam [23:51] The owner is planning to take it offline but wants it to be archived first [23:51] Awesome that he reached out to AT