#archiveteam-bs 2016-08-17,Wed

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00:03 🔗 hook54321 *notices
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00:27 🔗 SketchCow No
00:27 🔗 SketchCow On crap
00:27 🔗 SketchCow With a capital K
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00:32 🔗 Frogging I hate Ctrl+Q
00:33 🔗 Frogging I keep closing my browser by accident
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00:56 🔗 ErkDog lol
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02:09 🔗 dashcloud this is an interesting article: http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/15/12482158/internet-lost-stuff-youtube-facebook-search (if you don't back up stuff, it may be impossible to find again when you think about it again)
02:13 🔗 DoomTay I've gone through that a handful of times
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03:14 🔗 DFJustin irc logs are nice for that
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04:16 🔗 SketchCow How did DoomTay get unblocked
04:17 🔗 SketchCow http://www.mentalfloss.com/article/84742/introducing-misconceptions-our-brand-new-podcast
04:18 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/magazines_russian?&sort=-publicdate&page=1 is all chip magazine
04:18 🔗 SketchCow sets mode: +b *!*Thunderbi@*.res.bhn.net
04:18 🔗 DoomTay was kicked by SketchCow (DoomTay)
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04:26 🔗 Frogging why did you ban DoomTay exactly?
04:29 🔗 SketchCow I really want to spend the time to explain it, but I did it before.
04:29 🔗 SketchCow And then he came back
04:29 🔗 SketchCow No apology, no discussion, just came back like, you know, he's owed being here
04:29 🔗 SketchCow And then kept being what he was
04:29 🔗 SketchCow And now he thinks this is just some place he can be
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04:33 🔗 Frogging Well, ban evasion, yes. But I meant why in general
04:40 🔗 hook54321 I don't get it. Why was he banned in the first place? :P
04:41 🔗 SketchCow I realize I could sit here and recount, but I really just got up from a nap and I need to continue working
04:42 🔗 hook54321 I'll check the logs
04:43 🔗 SketchCow The FOS drive I'm trying to murder is down to 50% now.
04:43 🔗 hook54321 what channel did you explain it in?
04:45 🔗 Frogging i don't believe he did but it's fine, i was just curious
04:45 🔗 hook54321 Frogging: The first time I saw him banned was earlier today, is that accurate?
04:46 🔗 Frogging yeah
04:48 🔗 hook54321 Frogging: I'm guessing this was it? http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam-bs?date=2016-08-16,Tue&sel=173#l169
04:48 🔗 Frogging mhm
04:49 🔗 hook54321 I'm guessing DoomTay didn't understand that it was an exaggeration.
04:49 🔗 hook54321 Exaggeration might not be the right word.
04:50 🔗 JesseW This probably helps explain the banning (note the timestamps): http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log_search/archiveteam-bs?search=SketchCow%3B+DoomTay&action=search&error=0
04:51 🔗 JesseW particularly the first one (June 16th)
04:55 🔗 Frogging oh, I see.
04:55 🔗 JesseW yeah, this is not a sudden thing
04:56 🔗 hook54321 I don't exactly understand the context of the one from the 16th.
04:58 🔗 JesseW as i understand it, that was an initial "does anyone want to defend the value of this person being in this channel" request.
04:59 🔗 hook54321 Has he been useful at all?
05:00 🔗 JesseW Yeah, he's suggested various useful things to archive, and grabbed some stuff himself, as I understand.
05:06 🔗 SketchCow Sigh
05:06 🔗 SketchCow Oh boy, I am going to enjoy the next 30 minutes of my life.
05:07 🔗 SketchCow In short: DoomTay is an incredibly talented person at deciding what is going on, and then reporting it to people as facts, and then holding to it, misinforming people, continually.
05:07 🔗 SketchCow Also tends to... wait for it.... demand explanations as to why everything is happening, bites newbies, jumps into conversations with no facts and keeps going, etc.
05:08 🔗 SketchCow Now, we have a few people like that, but DoomTay was and is continually doing so, and it's one of the personality types that can be really problematic in the Archive Team situation.
05:08 🔗 SketchCow Because we're a tiger team here, and someone jumping in with Non-Information can be really problematic when time or effort is of the essence.
05:08 🔗 SketchCow Now, most of our most productive people have either blocked/ignored DoomTay or written him off.
05:09 🔗 SketchCow But still, he's a real problem when he just. Won't. Shut. Up.
05:09 🔗 SketchCow A light example, but I made some joke about Twitter, because it was down.
05:10 🔗 SketchCow Twitter 12:05 < DoomTay> Now that I think about it, it's kinda hilarious that Jason somehow concluded Twitter was "dead" just because the site was having problems
05:10 🔗 SketchCow See, that's entirely not true.
05:10 🔗 SketchCow It's a joke, and he makes an assumption, and reports it.
05:10 🔗 SketchCow I'm not saying THIS case is something work kicking. I'm saying he does this ALL THE GODDAMMNED TIME
05:11 🔗 SketchCow Am I now starting, sort of, to make it clear where this is coming from?
05:11 🔗 SketchCow Sort of?
05:11 🔗 hook54321 He seems to have a few stereotypical mannerisms that someone with Asperger's Syndrome might have.
05:11 🔗 SketchCow I can crawl through months of DoomTay transgressions, but I'd really need something like 14 wrists to slit
05:11 🔗 Frogging yeah, it made more sense after reading those logs
05:12 🔗 JesseW Makes plenty of sense to me, FWIW. (I don't consider myself one of the "most productive people", though)
05:12 🔗 hook54321 If I'm ever problematic like that or in another way, let me know.
05:14 🔗 SketchCow Oh, you are VERY productive
05:14 🔗 SketchCow With that overactive searching/verify skill
05:14 🔗 SketchCow That's actually an incredible hard skill
05:14 🔗 SketchCow Especially for a volunteer
05:14 🔗 JesseW thank you
05:15 🔗 JesseW hook54321: I'll try to warn you if I notice anything (but I'm not sure I'd see it)
05:17 🔗 hook54321 I'm overactive about most stuff I care about (as long as I'm not lazy about it). However, that can make me incredibly persistent, and it can sometimes be seen as annoying.
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11:55 🔗 Igloo^ I hope I don't come across as annoying
12:27 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: would you look at this: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=129353#c58
12:27 🔗 joepie91 and as I suspected, the twat is indeed working in the adblocking-blocking industry
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13:08 🔗 Frogging joepie91: [plugin] are breaking core JS functionality
13:08 🔗 Frogging what the hell does that even mean
13:10 🔗 joepie91 Frogging: it means that an advertising industry twat is making make-believe arguments to further their own gaenda
13:10 🔗 joepie91 agenda*
13:10 🔗 Frogging ah. that's fun
13:10 🔗 joepie91 trying to make a plausible-sounding security argument to make it impossible to use the wrapper trick
13:10 🔗 joepie91 to block websocket ads
13:11 🔗 joepie91 while conveniently ignoring the fact that that means you just *can't block ads at all*
13:11 🔗 joepie91 which is of course beneficial to his job
13:11 🔗 joepie91 and all of that while not disclosing their position
13:11 🔗 joepie91 I seriously despise people like this
13:41 🔗 HCross2 Putting out another call for newsbuddy grabbers. We really want to shove more news in, but right now we don't have downloading capacity
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14:00 🔗 joepie91 HCross2: what are the requirements?
14:02 🔗 HCross2 A decent bit of bw, and a ok CPU. All requirements get smaller with the more grabbers we have.
14:05 🔗 godane 1982 of nasa docs are done
14:12 🔗 Frogging john@kitsune:~/notes$ sudo apt-get install emacs
14:12 🔗 Frogging After this operation, 184 MB of additional disk space will be used.
14:12 🔗 Frogging o.o
14:13 🔗 Frogging that's huge for a... text editor
14:26 🔗 DFJustin it's more of a way of life
14:46 🔗 joepie91 Frogging: it's an OS with text editing functionality
14:46 🔗 joepie91 :P
14:46 🔗 joepie91 HCross2: right, but in concrete numbers?
14:47 🔗 joepie91 HCross2: ballpark :P
14:47 🔗 HCross2 At the moment it's pegging my online.net xc at full CPU.
14:47 🔗 HCross2 Kaz: as well
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14:57 🔗 joepie91 HCross2: hm. what's it using the CPU for? also, what are the disk/RAM requirements?
15:07 🔗 HCross2 Grab site, and the sheer number of crawls. Around 4gb ram and say 30gb disk
15:10 🔗 joepie91 ah, hm, that's quite a bit
15:10 🔗 joepie91 the RAM
15:12 🔗 HCross2 Can be done with less, it's probably less but I don't have access to a crawler right now to check
15:15 🔗 joepie91 HCross2: I can probably spare 2 gigs or so on my OVH box, and (part of) one CPU core...
15:15 🔗 joepie91 HCross2: however, it has a few reallocated sectors in the SMART data, so keep that in mind
15:15 🔗 joepie91 I might also have a few unused VPSes laying around with less RAM
15:15 🔗 joepie91 so depending on whether you can limit the amount of tasks that are handed out...
15:16 🔗 HCross2 CPU will be the factor. It all depends on how fast you return as it simply sends 2 tasks out an hour
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18:18 🔗 Medowar HCross: sv1.ggsrv.de
18:18 🔗 Medowar *sv3.ggsrv.de
18:18 🔗 Medowar I am currently setting it up
18:18 🔗 HCross Awesome
18:18 🔗 HCross for disco or grab?
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18:41 🔗 ErkDog HCross, you need grabz?
18:42 🔗 Medowar ErkDog: we need many grabz
18:42 🔗 HCross YES
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19:13 🔗 Igloo^ I have new server coming for grabz
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23:51 🔗 ErkDog Frogging are we going to grab ytmd?!?!
23:51 🔗 Frogging look in #archiveteam
23:51 🔗 Frogging The owner is planning to take it offline but wants it to be archived first
23:51 🔗 Frogging Awesome that he reached out to AT

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