#archiveteam-bs 2016-08-29,Mon

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00:10 🔗 ErkDog https://puu.sh/qRZ9c/aad73f8b29.png
00:22 🔗 atrocity i'm honestly surprised nobody archives this: http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/category/2/Celebrity_Pictures
00:33 🔗 ErkDog wow
00:33 🔗 ErkDog their logo is the girl from Firefly
00:33 🔗 ErkDog the h000k3r
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01:48 🔗 SketchCo2 is now known as SketchCow
01:48 🔗 SketchCow In "good" news, the Bitsavers Archive is now aggressively scanning in so much material, I'm going to probably make the Internet Archive ingestion happen automatically every day instead of "by hand every once in a while"
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01:50 🔗 SketchCow New Hip Hop mixtapes are now coming in with what I call "95% automation". I can't quite 100% automate it, but it'll only take a few keystrokes to do what I do.
01:50 🔗 SketchCow (215 new mixtapes added in August)
01:50 🔗 SketchCow I ripped 1,500 Apple II floppies this last week. I have a hashchecker - 600 were doubles from what IA has, BUT there was no rhyme or reason it what we had and didn't have, so this exercise was fine.
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02:42 🔗 aschmitz SketchCow: What are you using to rip the Apple II floppies? I've done a number with ADT, but it seems like there has to be something better.
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03:14 🔗 ErkDog hloooooooooooooool
03:37 🔗 hook54321 !status http://mercury.lcs.mit.edu
03:37 🔗 hook54321 oops
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03:58 🔗 hook54321 ErkDog: what does "hloooooooooooooool" mean?
04:07 🔗 godane1 so i have a full mirror gizmodo.com now
04:08 🔗 godane1 as daily sitemap dumps
04:09 🔗 godane1 jalopnik.com will be fully uploaded by morning i think
04:10 🔗 godane1 https://archive.org/details/jalopnik.com-sitemap-2016-01-04-20160826
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05:08 🔗 godane1 i'm now downloading io9.gizmodo.com
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08:16 🔗 SketchCow ADT is what I use
08:16 🔗 SketchCow Except when it fails
08:17 🔗 SketchCow I pass it to someone who goes EDD
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11:00 🔗 ranma i think i spoke to shutterstock yesterday at work
11:00 🔗 ranma could have sworn "shutter" was part of their name and something like "stock"
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17:20 🔗 schbirid aaah, cinemageddon still ddosed? :)
17:20 🔗 schbirid :(
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20:06 🔗 WubTheCap https://archive.org/details/tulpa.palstani.com_phpBB3_20160829.warc
20:08 🔗 WubTheCap Sanqui: IA API allows setting a different mediatype, like web. It doesn't add it to the Wayback Machine category though.
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21:02 🔗 HCross I just want to throw an idea out, and get some ideas. How would regularly uploaded copies of blockchains for various cryptocoins go down?
21:03 🔗 luckcolor No idea
21:03 🔗 Sanqui Incremental?
21:03 🔗 WubTheCap ^
21:03 🔗 luckcolor usually do are distibuited using torrent
21:03 🔗 luckcolor *those
21:04 🔗 luckcolor The problem is with distributing those is that people have to trust your backup and you know with bitcoin being based around 0 trust
21:05 🔗 luckcolor that's is a little bit meh
21:06 🔗 luckcolor HCross: what is your idea?
21:07 🔗 HCross im running a few main nodes for things like Monero, and was going to stick copies of the blockchain up every few months for each of them
21:07 🔗 luckcolor txindex is ?
21:07 🔗 luckcolor o r 1
21:07 🔗 luckcolor *0
21:07 🔗 luckcolor i suppose 0 right?
21:08 🔗 JW_work seems a bit silly to have more than the most recent, as (baring breaks in the crypto) the previous versions can't change, right?
21:10 🔗 luckcolor yeah
21:11 🔗 luckcolor i suppose what you can do is export the bootstrap.dat of a node at X block height
21:11 🔗 luckcolor split it into chunks
21:11 🔗 Medowar not that easily. ethercoin reverted some transactions from the past. But that required the action of all(or most) node operators. So no, past cant be changed that easily, but it can.
21:12 🔗 luckcolor and then when you make another backup you just distribute the diffs?
21:12 🔗 luckcolor yeah well
21:13 🔗 luckcolor that's has been really an exception to the rule i suppose
21:14 🔗 SketchCow Rules for "is this good to save"
21:14 🔗 SketchCow - Will anyone be able to unpack it into anything useful again
21:14 🔗 SketchCow - Does it take a lot of space
21:14 🔗 Medowar yes, until now. But it showed, that just because it uses blockchain, it is not 100% unchangeable.
21:15 🔗 SketchCow - Is it something clearly unique that should be saved, or is it something that is constantly discarded and equally replaced
21:15 🔗 Medowar Will anyone be able to unpack it into anything useful again - yes
21:15 🔗 Medowar Does it take a lot of space - yes
21:15 🔗 SketchCow How much space?
21:16 🔗 luckcolor depends on the coin/database used / settings used
21:16 🔗 SketchCow Yes, but generally.
21:16 🔗 SketchCow Gigs? Tens of gigs? Petas?
21:16 🔗 SketchCow Zottas?
21:16 🔗 luckcolor for example bitoin generally should be around 30gb i think
21:16 🔗 luckcolor maybe more
21:16 🔗 SketchCow For the entire blockchain.
21:17 🔗 Sanqui bitcoin is, presumably, very well archived, but more obscure coins would probably be worthwhile
21:17 🔗 SketchCow I like 'lots of space' discussions when they show difference in opinion on what that is.
21:17 🔗 luckcolor i don't know exactly because i'm running my node with txindex=1 wich indexes also the transactions
21:17 🔗 Kaz the /whole/ bitcoin blockchain is currently 80gb
21:17 🔗 SketchCow If a blockchain was updated once a month and it was less than 100gb, I'd say it was worthwhile.
21:17 🔗 SketchCow A blockchain SAVE, I mean.
21:17 🔗 SketchCow So 12 a year
21:17 🔗 Medowar ok, I revert my statement on lots of space.
21:18 🔗 Medowar had something of 2tb in the back of my head, but apparently wrong.
21:18 🔗 Medowar https://blockchain.info/charts/blocks-size
21:18 🔗 luckcolor SketchCow: i think for blockchain is best to do progesssive backups
21:18 🔗 SketchCow Devise a system where all the blockchains of all the coins are archived once every month into an item on the archive, and that's blockchain-backups-2016-08, and so on
21:18 🔗 SketchCow Progressive like diffs?
21:18 🔗 luckcolor we download for example block from 10000 to 20000
21:19 🔗 Sanqui Blockchains are, except for the head, immutable.
21:19 🔗 SketchCow Do both
21:19 🔗 SketchCow Full backup, once every month.
21:19 🔗 SketchCow Add diffs in for laffs
21:19 🔗 SketchCow diff laffs
21:19 🔗 SketchCow Document it to crazytown
21:19 🔗 SketchCow Put that in the item
21:19 🔗 luckcolor that's alot of that but if duplicate data is not a problem then we can do that
21:19 🔗 SketchCow Well, I'm assuming it compresses
21:19 🔗 SketchCow And even if it doesn't, that's still fine
21:20 🔗 luckcolor welll i wouldn't count on compressing it
21:20 🔗 luckcolor but ok
21:20 🔗 luckcolor i know a tool that i can mod to download all bitcoin based blockhains
21:20 🔗 SketchCow Channel #chaingang created
21:20 🔗 luckcolor k thank
21:20 🔗 luckcolor *thanks
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21:48 🔗 Frogging Bitcoin's block chain is approaching exponential growth
21:50 🔗 Frogging maybe not quite, but IIRC it more than doubled in the past year
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21:56 🔗 yipdw_ there's some people at the adjacent table who did internships as quants and they're lamenting how they didn't work overtime hours during the summer
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21:56 🔗 yipdw_ it's good to know that the exploitation mindset is still worked into kids
22:05 🔗 luckcolor we have an image now
22:06 🔗 luckcolor license is fine: it's No Rights Reserved - CC0
22:08 🔗 Sanqui A++
22:09 🔗 luckcolor :P
22:09 🔗 luckcolor now to find a logo
22:10 🔗 Atluxity "it's not a license" - SHUT UP
22:10 🔗 Atluxity :P
22:11 🔗 luckcolor ok then :P
22:11 🔗 luckcolor https://www.flickr.com/photos/namecoin/albums there are tons of these photos
22:11 🔗 luckcolor even cats
22:11 🔗 luckcolor (ofc what did you expect this is the internet we are talking about)
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22:33 🔗 luckcolor aaand done
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