[00:06] consumer "mastering" tool? [00:06] e.g. nero, cdrwin, etc? [00:06] cdjuggler [00:07] i can't even think of the other/big ones [00:07] adaptec? 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[20:21] http://www.nongnu.org/lzip/xz_inadequate.html - "Xz format inadequate for long-term archiving" [20:21] jsp12345: parsing the images directly [20:25] joepie91: Agreed, CDs turn out to be bullshit [20:25] Written at drivers, not specs [20:26] If the driver read it we're done here [20:26] Fuck you linux people and your later drivers [20:27] pretty much - it feels like CD-ROM mastering tools were written by just mashing bits together until it worked on the test rig [20:27] which... is probably not too far from the truth [20:27] I talked with someone who used a mastering rig to do a CD-ROM in... 89? Ish? [20:27] it was pretty crazy. $12,000 rig [20:27] A lot of that being able to put 640mb in one place, of course [20:28] heh [20:28] $12k seems relatively cheap for a mastering rig in that time [20:28] then again, the $ was worth more [20:28] Were the blanks like normal cds? [20:29] seems like that'd equate about $23k today [20:49] further ISO 9660 complaint: spec is so verbose that it often mentions the same jargon term 4-5 times in a single paragraph, yet it fails to specify whether length fields are in bytes or sectors [20:55] have you gotten into old high sierra stuff at all [20:55] ha [20:55] no [20:55] that's pre-spec [20:55] so I imagine it to be worse [21:19] It's worse [21:20] Making a rough master is super hard. Most of the time people did it to DLT tapes [21:20] Or tapes [21:56] here's a tool that supposedly lets you make audio cd masters: http://ddp.andreasruge.de/ [21:57] i only think cds at the time was like a way to do a full backup of bbs servers [21:57] or servers in general [22:19] *** VADemon has left ~bye [22:21] *** GE has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [22:50] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:14] *** zino has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:19] *** zino has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:39] No, but good thoughts [23:49] CD-ROMs had huge initial uses as distribution methods for government and libraries for reference materials [23:49] It's really a complicated, crazy thing