#archiveteam-bs 2017-01-25,Wed

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03:50 🔗 SketchCow godane: I suspected that this guy didn't know we've kind of already done his job for him.
03:50 🔗 SketchCow But I wanted you to walk it over and verify.
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03:58 🔗 godane i think we did most of it
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03:58 🔗 godane i know rev3games encoded mp4s on revsion3.com was saved
03:59 🔗 godane but i don't think everything from youtube channel was put as on there revsion3 site
03:59 🔗 godane also there numbers missing from it
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05:46 🔗 tychot xmc: I'm new. I'll go read the etiquette blurb in more detail.
05:47 🔗 xmc no worries, just: we're all in both channels, so filter heavily. your line about sampling was useful and ontopic and worth sharing
05:48 🔗 tychot Indeed. And I've re-read the IRC wiki page, and I think I have a better sense of the topicality now.
05:48 🔗 xmc kool
05:49 🔗 xmc that channel is best kept quiet so that people can go afk for six hours and catch up in only a few minutes
05:50 🔗 tychot Ah, makes sense.
05:50 🔗 tychot How the noobs are treated says a lot about a channel. I appreciate the polite clarity. :)
05:50 🔗 xmc that, depends on who's around to whip you all into shape
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05:53 🔗 tychot Boy, I hear that. I'm in #hashcat on freenode a lot and it's luck-of-the-draw. :) Glad I lucked out.
05:53 🔗 tychot On the topic of me being useful ...
05:53 🔗 tychot Alaskan bandwidth is semi-metered, so full-on downloads are probably not really where I can be high-leverage.
05:54 🔗 tychot I can slice-and-dice DNS and IP stuff pretty well, when that's needed.
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05:54 🔗 tychot I could also help with docs. Though maybe right now isn't the best time for noobs do be jumping in. I won't be offended, if so.
05:56 🔗 yipdw I like how hitting the copy button on scientific data is a rogue action now
05:56 🔗 yipdw ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY: ROGUE ONE
05:56 🔗 yipdw actually that gives me an idea for archivebot's twitter avatar
06:00 🔗 Asparagir Uh-oh.
06:00 🔗 Frogging hah
06:00 🔗 Asparagir No, not that.
06:00 🔗 Asparagir I just randomly started googling NASA groups, including their Earth Sciences websites.
06:00 🔗 Asparagir And...
06:00 🔗 Asparagir This is one of their "where do I find data" portals
06:00 🔗 Asparagir https://search.earthdata.nasa.gov/search
06:00 🔗 Asparagir Top of page:
06:00 🔗 Asparagir "NSIDC Scheduled Maintenance (Jan 25 2017 08:00 PST to Jan 25 2017 10:30 PST) AMSR-E, Aquarius, IceBridge,ICESat/GLAS, MODIS, NISE, and SMAP data will be unavailable for ordering from 9:00 AM - 11 PM Wednesday 25 Jan 2016 (U.S. Mountain Standard Time) due to system maintenance. We apologize for any inconvenience that this may cause. Please contact NSIDC User Services at nsidc@nsidc.org if you have any questions."
06:01 🔗 Asparagir They're going to be down ALL DAY TOMORROW.
06:01 🔗 Asparagir Maybe a coincidence, but...
06:01 🔗 Asparagir AMSR-E, Aquarius, IceBridge,ICESat/GLAS, MODIS, NISE, and SMAP -- that's a lot of data to be down.
06:01 🔗 xmc you should contact them with this very reasonable question
06:02 🔗 Asparagir Oh, like they're at the office at 10:00 PM Pacific?
06:02 🔗 xmc i wouldn't think so
06:02 🔗 Frogging message is a little confusing. the part at the beginning says 11:00 EST to 13:30 EST
06:02 🔗 Frogging which is only 2.5 hours, but then it says 9AM to 11PM
06:02 🔗 xmc the first is PST, the second is MST
06:03 🔗 xmc remember MST is not EST
06:03 🔗 Frogging no I get that but is it 2.5 hours or 15 hours
06:04 🔗 xmc i would bet 15 hours
06:04 🔗 yipdw I wonder if anyone knows someone here who can shadowrun terabytes of data out
06:05 🔗 yipdw that interface is unfortunately not too archivebottable
06:05 🔗 Frogging yeah I was going to say this web app looks like a nightmare to archive
06:05 🔗 yipdw you really can't, you need the dataset and the viewer app
06:05 🔗 xmc i've worked with these kinds of datasets, usually you have to submit a request and then a tape robot goes and gets it and you get an email half an hour later
06:05 🔗 xmc it's a titanic amount of data
06:05 🔗 yipdw the viewer app maybe not so much because there's stuff like this already
06:06 🔗 Asparagir I have been playing with the interface and I can't even figure out where to start to download.
06:06 🔗 Asparagir I think it's the kind of thing that would have to be FOIA'ed
06:06 🔗 yipdw oh you need login anywa
06:06 🔗 xmc yes
06:06 🔗 yipdw so, each entry you get in the left pane is a single granule in the map
06:06 🔗 yipdw so
06:06 🔗 yipdw yeah
06:07 🔗 yipdw gotta get the dataset out some other way
06:07 🔗 yipdw or I guess bang the download button a lot
06:07 🔗 yipdw the "Retrieve Collection Data" button might download everything
06:08 🔗 xmc no, yipdw, this is a website that's backed by at least one tape library
06:08 🔗 yipdw yeah
06:08 🔗 Coderjoe I ran into an interface like that when I was grabbing old aerial photos from USGS a number of years ago
06:08 🔗 yipdw I guess those rogue scientists have this one covered
06:09 🔗 yipdw many climatologists died to bring us this information
06:09 🔗 Coderjoe MAID has got to be less expensive than a tape robot and tons of tapes these days, right?
06:10 🔗 tychot Side question, maybe more actionable in the short term: I saw that Health and Human Services comms is also endangered?
06:10 🔗 tychot Looks pretty harvestable: https://www.healthdata.gov/search/type/dataset
06:10 🔗 xmc tape libraries are capex that lasts decades, you can upgrade the tapes and drives without changing the robot one bit
06:10 🔗 Coderjoe what about NIH pubmed?
06:11 🔗 Coderjoe is that in peril?
06:11 🔗 tychot Hmm, maybe. Don't they distribute that quarterly on DVD to libraries?
06:11 🔗 tychot .edu, that is
06:13 🔗 tychot https://www.nlm.nih.gov/NIHbmic/nih_data_sharing_repositories.html
06:15 🔗 tychot man, the data storage/retrieval for those is all over the map - it'd need to be inventoried
06:16 🔗 tychot and a bunch of it would be tape-grade (yay, genomes!)
06:18 🔗 tychot hmm ... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/guide/howto/dwn-records/
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06:53 🔗 Coderjoe hmm
06:53 🔗 Coderjoe "Teen Vogue has been dropping articles that eviscerate Trump. They did a piece on Gaslighting."
06:54 🔗 Coderjoe er
06:54 🔗 Coderjoe I suspect "drop" means release in this sentence, now that I re-read it a few times.
06:58 🔗 Frogging yeah that sounds right
07:01 🔗 Frogging why are tape drives so bloody expensive?
07:01 🔗 Frogging are they super complex?
07:07 🔗 vantec Supply / Demand + R&D costs
07:13 🔗 yipdw NOAA has been deleting data crucial to accurate counts of fishery stock
07:13 🔗 yipdw you could say they dropped the bass
07:14 🔗 Frogging -_-
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07:20 🔗 SketchCow I'm doing a deletion of ROMs so boring my brain may leave my body
07:21 🔗 yipdw make sure your memories are marked read-only to protect them from the ethereal thieves
07:23 🔗 SketchCow The entertainment software companies have stepped up the games
07:23 🔗 SketchCow requesting removal of games inside my ZIPs
07:23 🔗 Frogging rude
07:30 🔗 Frogging IA is low hanging fruit for that sort of thing I guess
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08:04 🔗 godane i'm slowly starting to upload VHS Video Vault youtube channel
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09:59 🔗 SketchCow godane: Thank you
10:00 🔗 SketchCow I'd prefer the title of the item over the VHS Video Vault name
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10:02 🔗 SketchCow Yeah, I'd have preferred one item per video
10:03 🔗 SketchCow Sorry we didn't coordinate
10:03 🔗 godane i normally dump youtube channels
10:03 🔗 godane i can ways just upload to FOS for you to do that then
10:04 🔗 godane *always
10:04 🔗 SketchCow Well, yes.
10:04 🔗 SketchCow I'd like you to do that, then.
10:04 🔗 SketchCow Because I kind of want to split apart the uploads as they are.
10:05 🔗 godane just know they will be uploaded in year/month/day folders
10:05 🔗 SketchCow That's fine
10:05 🔗 SketchCow I can probably fix up the ones you uploaded, so don't upload those again
10:14 🔗 godane so every before 2014-09 is uploaded
10:14 🔗 godane i'm uploading videos from 2014-09 forward
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19:22 🔗 hook54321 Are we gonna do a warrior job for this url shortener? https://go.usa.gov/
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20:15 🔗 pizzaiolo hook54321: add it to the wiki if not already there
20:27 🔗 tychot Not that anyone should slow down, but: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-epa-climate-change-website
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21:24 🔗 rocode I am doing a grab of a newsgroup webviewer, grab-site is cycling through font size buttons, I add ^http?://example\.com*&FontSize=* to ignore and it still seems to be slipping through. Where am I going wrong with this regex?
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21:58 🔗 xmc * needs a . before it to match things
21:58 🔗 xmc .* means "any number of anything"
21:58 🔗 xmc "com*" means "com or commmmmmmmmmmm etc"
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22:11 🔗 Frogging or co
22:13 🔗 xmc right
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22:21 🔗 nickname_ https://www.data.gov/climate/highlights
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22:23 🔗 nickname_ ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/hourly_precip-3240/
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23:28 🔗 rocode xmc, thanks. Switching between regex implementations fucks me up.
23:28 🔗 xmc np
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