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[04:27] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 194 seconds) [04:33] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [05:20] *** wp494 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [05:21] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam-bs [05:38] *** odemg has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [06:18] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam-bs [06:27] SketchCow: i only have a folder called others that i'm uploading to localnewsarchive folder [06:27] so all of the stations got uploaded [06:28] out side of Rb1330 youtube channel and a few stations everything is uploaded [07:29] *** GE has joined #archiveteam-bs [08:13] *** yipdw has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [08:17] *** me has joined #archiveteam-bs [08:18] *** odemg has joined #archiveteam-bs [08:35] *** BlueMaxim has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [08:39] *** GE has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [10:03] *** antomatic has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:20] *** pizzaiolo has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:21] *** antomatic has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:27] *** pizzaiolo has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [10:28] *** pizzaiolo has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:36] *** odemg has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [11:04] *** antomati_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:05] *** SpaffGarg has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [11:06] *** SpaffGarg has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:06] *** antomatic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [11:18] *** pizzaiolo has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [11:19] *** pizzaiolo has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:43] *** odemg has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:51] *** icedice has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:00] *** JAA has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:10] *** Jonison has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:32] https://www.reddit.com/r/opendirectories/comments/64ljzw/660_gb_of_scifi_horror_fantasy_cult_fiction_and/ [12:35] *** antomatic has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:38] *** antomati_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [12:42] *** antomati_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:42] *** antomatic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [12:45] *** antomati_ is now known as antomatic [12:55] *** vitzli has joined #archiveteam-bs [13:01] *** odemg has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [13:04] *** bwn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [13:12] *** godane has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [13:14] *** bwn has joined #archiveteam-bs [13:17] *** pnJay has joined #archiveteam-bs [13:19] *** odemg has joined #archiveteam-bs [13:40] *** odemg has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [14:05] *** odemg has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:17] *** GE has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:03] *** odemg2 has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:06] *** odemg has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [15:42] *** odemg has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:42] *** odemg has quit IRC (Connection closed) [15:45] *** odemg2 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [15:48] *** vitzli has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [16:03] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:10] *** me is now known as yipdw [16:20] *** icedice2 has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:24] *** icedice has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:25] *** MRX3 has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:28] *** icedice2 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [16:50] *** odemg has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:50] *** odemg has quit IRC (Connection closed) [17:03] *** iSO_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:06] *** antomati_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:08] *** antomatic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [17:12] JAA: did you ever hear anything about any efforts into InterfaceLIFT? I would love to archive that too. [17:15] i'm uploading this series from koreanet-1 daegu : https://archive.org/details/koreanet-1_daegu_city-20091030 [17:30] *** Matt_Lock has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:46] It's not exactly easy archiving iOS stuff. [17:47] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [17:49] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:03] URLTeam2 seems to be down. I'm getting constant error 507: The tracker needs an operator for manual maintenance [18:08] *** GE has quit IRC (Quit: zzz) [18:35] *** odemg has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:36] tammy_: No idea. There isn't anything in the logs, for what that's worth. And I agree; it seems like a nice resource, and losing it would be a shame. [18:38] JAA: I'd love to have a scrape of it even. I wonder if it's as simple as just letting wget attack it. [18:38] There are 3870 wallpapers according to the website, so it shouldn't be too large either. [18:38] I'll try when I get home from work. [18:38] That'd work probably, but it'll fetch only one resolution, I think. [18:39] we [18:39] *** kurt has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:39] we'll see about that [18:42] Any thoughts on archiving iOS apps, if anyone else has done it? JAA? tammy_? [18:44] *** odemg has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [18:44] tammy_: I just tried it out with wpull. It only fetches the preview. [18:46] I got nothing iSO_, sorry. I'm still lurking mostly, observing how things get done, etc. Wallpapers caught my interest and brought me out of the shadows :) [18:47] iSO_: no clue. Have you checked the IRC logs? [18:50] *** Matt_Lock has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:55] JAA: Searched "iOS" and "Apple" on both #archiveteam and #archiveteam-bs - aside from a link mentioning dropping 32-bit apps, there's doesn't seem to be anything relevant to what I'm talking about. [18:56] This is one of another specialized archiving attempts that's not involving fetching content from a computer web browser. [18:59] tammy_: I've been lurking on this website for a while as well, and what brought me out is my thoughts on a perpetual project on archiving Appshopper app entries. [19:00] Speaking of Appshopper, I found a couple of more limitations. [19:01] *** Matt_Lock has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:01] And/or quirks. [19:01] *** Matt_Lock has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:03] Example of a ridiculous Appshopper ID name that's insanely long (unsure what's the hard limit when Appshopper takes account of that original name): http://appshopper.com/games/star-skippers-%E2%80%93-endless-game-about-wars-in-a-distant-galaxy-reach-new-power-when-your-pixel-hopper-awakens-to-dodge-imperial-force-lasers [19:04] iSO_: Mhm. All I found is a comment on an archive of 500k Android apps, mentioning that iOS is more difficult: http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam-bs?date=2014-11-26,Wed&sel=139#l134 [19:04] Apple used to have a longer character limit until they dented it around 2016 Summer or Fall to a shorter character limit (it's still long, but not as crazy as that above link!). [19:05] That's what I fear, because most of the iOS devices are on the latest version, while I remained on around 8.0 because past that, I can't archive iOS apps anymore. [19:05] Refuse to update! [19:06] While archiving Android stuff is easier, I think there are additional worries as much as iOS stuff, like downloading external data needed for the app to run. [19:06] That doesn't sound like a good idea from a security perspective though. [19:07] It's the devs way of trying to out from piracy (or more important piracy of getting that free currency for those F2P stuff gotten through other means). [19:08] There's like single-player games that require an internet connection! [19:09] That doesn't surprise me in the least. [19:11] One of the other fears I feel are apps that just temporarily load content while connected into the internet, and not cached in the iOS game (or worse, mixed cache), and I encountered one of them not too long ago when I did specific things for the purpose of caching content. [19:11] *not cached in the iOS device [19:12] My reach of archiving is limited to only apps that don't need an outright purchase in order to play the game. [19:17] tammy_: The download URL for InterfaceLIFT is "https://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/7yz4ma1/"+padded+'_'+base+'_'+val+'.jpg'. padded is the numeric ID, padded to five digits; base is a name of the upload (but not necessarily the one appearing in the URL when accessing the wallpaper from the browser); and val is the resolution. These values can be extracted from the page HTML (the imgload function call and the values of that select's optio [19:20] JAA: The last word of that sentence seems to imply hitting the character limit, did you have anything to say more? [19:21] Oh yeah, just saw that in the logs. Stupid web client doesn't handle overlong lines properly. [19:21] ... that select's options). [19:25] Here's the second quirk on Appshopper, not all the info for each iOS entry are archived, such as: Apple Watch, Languages, Seller, Rating, and even Compatibility. Example: http://appshopper.com/games/pokemon-go and https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pokemon-go/id1094591345 [19:29] *** achip has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:33] *** achip has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:36] For instance, http://appshopper.com/games/spiraloid and https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/spiraloid/id1155400046 - the person's name seems to imply "creator", because some devs decide to put up their own name instead of a company name (dev or publusher). But when looking on the Apple app page, there's a company name that says "Groo Gadgets". Does it mean that company is a dev, publisher, or distributor (yep, this can apply as well!)? [19:36] (OOPS, this is supposed to be the first one before that next line!) I find "Seller" to be critical, because from my xp, the company name below the app name doesn't have to be the developer name at all (as Appshopper indicates that it's Published). [19:37] http://appshopper.com/games/trackn-tap and https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/trackn-tap-a-focus-game/id1163364026 say only "Olivier Fuxet" and no one else, but their website ( http://trackntap.net/ ) mentions the company name "Amande Entertainment", this matches https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amandeentertainment.TracknTap [19:38] I could say more, but these two are enough to know that even if we archive Apple app pages (not just Appshopper app pages), there's still some info that's left out. [19:44] *** GE has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:00] *** trvz has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:00] *** odemg has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:06] *** wickedpla has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:32] *** fie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [20:45] *** chrono is now known as CHRONO [20:48] *** pnJay has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [20:48] *** icedice2 has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:55] *** MRX3 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [20:57] *** MRX3 has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:59] *** icedice2 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:05] *** MRX3 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [21:16] *** iSO_ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [21:18] *** pnJay has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:18] *** odemg has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:18] tammy_: I wrote a wpull plugin which handles the wallpapers on InterfaceLIFT. It seems to work correctly, but I'll need to do some more testing before I can start the whole grab. [21:18] Also, it's a shame that wpull 2.0.1 is so damn buggy. [21:19] *** pizzaiolo has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:33] https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/64q73v/university_graduate_facial_hair_styles_18982008_oc/dg44iay/ has links to a few university yearbooks archives going back to the late 19th century. At least some of those are not in the IA yet, and it might be worth transferring them. [21:36] *** pizzaiolo has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:39] *** Jonison has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:40] *** iSO_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:41] https://boingboing.net/2017/04/11/the-web-we-want.html https://action.openrightsgroup.org/say-no-to-drm-as-a-web-standard 2 more days left til W3C decision on DRM! Could affect archiving processes! 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