#archiveteam-bs 2017-11-15,Wed

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00:17 🔗 zino Yea, don't do that from an IP you want to use for other stuff.
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00:29 🔗 noirscape SketchCow: np is normally nepals (iirc) language subdomain for reddit. However it's more often used by subreddits to disable the vote/comment box to prevent vote manipulation (also known as brigading)
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02:06 🔗 SketchCow You are answering the wrong question
02:06 🔗 SketchCow But here's a breadstick
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04:52 🔗 Somebody2 right, should have moved sooner
04:53 🔗 Somebody2 (forgot I was in non-bs)
04:53 🔗 astrid np, so did i
04:53 🔗 Somebody2 :-)
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09:48 🔗 Igloo Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhm SketchCow FOS is refusing connections. Who runs FOS?
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10:57 🔗 JAA Igloo: He does.
10:58 🔗 JAA He mentioned earlier in #archiveteam that FOS is now a new machine, so I guess it's related to that.
11:00 🔗 Igloo THINGS MIGHT BREAK, WE'LL WORK IT OUT
11:00 🔗 Igloo hehe
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14:27 🔗 SketchCow Good morning
14:27 🔗 SketchCow What's breaking
14:27 🔗 SketchCow Rsync?
14:29 🔗 JAA Yeah
14:30 🔗 godane so is FOS down
14:31 🔗 godane oh
14:33 🔗 SketchCow How is it now
14:33 🔗 JAA Still Connection refused.
14:34 🔗 SketchCow ps -ax | grep sync
14:34 🔗 godane Cannot connect to fortressofsolitude.textfiles.com: Connection refused
14:34 🔗 SketchCow Show me the IP you see
14:34 🔗 JAA FOS resolves to 208.70.31.102, is that the correct IP?
14:34 🔗 JAA Heh, great minds etc.
14:34 🔗 JAA For the record, I'm using the authorative nameservers, so this should not be related to propagation.
14:35 🔗 SketchCow This is not propogation.
14:35 🔗 SketchCow That's the right IP, that's the new machine.
14:35 🔗 SketchCow I hate adminning
14:35 🔗 SketchCow I'm sure there's some twitchy little oh no thing
14:35 🔗 JAA I can't ping FOS either, by the way. Destination Port Unreachable.
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14:38 🔗 SketchCow I think what's going on is that the two machines are differently firewalled.
14:38 🔗 SketchCow There's a chance the new one doesn't have the firewall settings, I've pinged our admin, our network guy, and will keep looking.
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14:39 🔗 SketchCow I'm going to look at if there's some default security horseshit
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14:40 🔗 SketchCow I can ftp locally, but I can't ftp from outside.
14:40 🔗 SketchCow So yeah.
14:44 🔗 SketchCow Sorry for this, but if I don't force this transfer and make us stop using the old machine, we'll ALL be sad if I'm doing cleanup from Toyko in a week
14:44 🔗 SketchCow End of month they kill the machine
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14:51 🔗 godane so i'm capturing qvc japan since you talked about going to toyko
14:52 🔗 godane i been meaning to capture more of it
14:52 🔗 godane SketchCow: you may want to get one these when there: http://www.godane.co.jp/
14:53 🔗 godane i archivebot the site about a week ago so you don't have to save it
14:54 🔗 SketchCow New FOS has 13tb in the archiveteam/archivebot area
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15:03 🔗 JAA SketchCow: Working again. :-)
15:03 🔗 JAA (Since about 3 minutes or so)
15:04 🔗 SketchCow Great.
15:04 🔗 SketchCow Let's see what it's doing.
15:04 🔗 SketchCow I see the Archivebot stuff happening.
15:04 🔗 SketchCow Warrior, no
15:04 🔗 SketchCow I mean, I'm sure it'll work
15:05 🔗 SketchCow FTP should be working now
15:05 🔗 JAA Well yeah, we don't have an active warrior project at the moment, do we?
15:06 🔗 JAA Anyway, thanks to you and whoever else was involved for fixing! <3
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15:21 🔗 godane SketchCow: Cannot create a data connection: Connection refused
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15:46 🔗 JAA Amazon Canada is dropping the unlimited tier from Cloud Drive: https://www.amazon.ca/b?node=17307512011&ref=cds_tpc_w_lm
15:47 🔗 JAA ... tomorrow.
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15:48 🔗 SketchCow FTP should be working
15:51 🔗 Frogging JAA: they never should have been selling them, honestly
15:51 🔗 Frogging it's unsustainable and everyone with a clue knows it
15:52 🔗 JAA Yep
15:54 🔗 JAA I wonder how much longer Google will do it.
15:58 🔗 godane the new FOS server is not working with gftp maybe
15:59 🔗 godane i'm still get that error
15:59 🔗 godane Cannot create a data connection: Connection refused
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16:06 🔗 zino JAA: Gdrive has an unlimited plan?
16:09 🔗 zino Closest thing I can find is unlimited group storage with Google Apps for Education.
16:10 🔗 JAA zino: They do, I think it's called "Google Apps for Business".
16:11 🔗 JAA Officially, only accounts with five or more users get unlimited storage, but that's not enforced, i.e. also single-user accounts are unlimited.
16:12 🔗 JAA There is a limit of 700 GB traffic (not sure if only upload or both directions) per 24 hours though.
16:12 🔗 JAA All this is coming from /r/DataHoarder, I don't use it myself.
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16:13 🔗 zino Hmm. My scientists can easily produce and store 700G/day if I let them. I wonder for how long Google would let me get away with that...
16:14 🔗 zino 700G extra I should say. They use up the local Petabytes quickly enough.
16:16 🔗 * zino plots setting up several parallel $50/month accounts to up the available storage/day.
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17:13 🔗 SketchCow root@teamarchive2:/1/ARCHIVEBOT/INBOX# du -sh .
17:13 🔗 SketchCow 217G .
17:13 🔗 SketchCow YOU MONSTERS
17:14 🔗 godane SketchCow: i still can't use ftp
17:14 🔗 SketchCow godane: Please tell me if gftp uses a port other than ftp
17:14 🔗 godane its using port 21
17:14 🔗 SketchCow root@teamarchive1:/etc# ftp fos.textfiles.com
17:14 🔗 SketchCow Connected to fortressofsolitude.textfiles.com.
17:14 🔗 SketchCow 220 (vsFTPd 3.0.3)
17:14 🔗 SketchCow Name (fos.textfiles.com:jscott):
17:14 🔗 SketchCow Working here
17:16 🔗 Igloo SketchCow: Still going... i've got about 40G to go
17:16 🔗 JAA FTP works for me as well.
17:16 🔗 godane it works with ftp command line
17:16 🔗 godane i use gftp
17:18 🔗 godane now this is weird
17:18 🔗 godane i get connection refused even after login works
17:18 🔗 godane ftp> ls
17:18 🔗 godane 227 Entering Passive Mode (208,70,31,102,255,249).
17:18 🔗 godane ftp: connect: Connection refused
17:19 🔗 godane ok login works on gftp but data connection doesn't
17:22 🔗 SketchCow So, there's likely to be some limit in ftp
17:22 🔗 SketchCow By default, all the ports are blocked per a firewall
17:22 🔗 SketchCow So I have to release them
17:22 🔗 SketchCow Let me see if we're missing a port related to FTP
17:24 🔗 godane i was going think the problem was this: https://superuser.com/questions/356138/cant-connect-to-ftp-server-425-unable-to-build-data-connection-connection-tim
17:24 🔗 godane but after check it also doesn't work
17:25 🔗 SketchCow It might be you have sftp or something.
17:25 🔗 SketchCow I don't want you changing anything. let me look at the settings to see if I'm missing something.
17:26 🔗 godane ok
17:26 🔗 SketchCow Try now.
17:27 🔗 godane still not working
17:28 🔗 SketchCow Try now.
17:29 🔗 godane still not wokring
17:29 🔗 godane same error
17:29 🔗 godane Cannot create a data connection: Connection refuse
17:29 🔗 godane *Cannot create a data connection: Connection refused
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17:33 🔗 SketchCow Going to try with my filezilla
17:34 🔗 SketchCow My filezilla fails too
17:34 🔗 SketchCow So that's a good sign
17:34 🔗 SketchCow You're not alone, godane
17:34 🔗 SketchCow SO NOT ALONE
17:34 🔗 SketchCow hug
17:36 🔗 schbirid2 passive active mode poop maybe? ftp sucks donkey ass
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17:37 🔗 Igloo If it's behind a firewall, they do funky stuff. I have loads of issues with it at work too
17:37 🔗 Igloo In the data packet they embed the source IP in the packet which causes problems
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17:40 🔗 SketchCow I fixed it.
17:40 🔗 SketchCow I did it in a way
17:40 🔗 SketchCow That when I'm in The Meeting
17:40 🔗 SketchCow And they're going Why The Fuck Did You Do This
17:40 🔗 SketchCow I will think of all of you
17:40 🔗 SketchCow all. of. you.
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17:42 🔗 SketchCow Also, bandwidth to the new FOS won't be any faster or slower than previous FOS
17:42 🔗 SketchCow Speaking of bandwidth
17:42 🔗 SketchCow Do people know about fast.com
17:42 🔗 SketchCow There's speedtest.net
17:43 🔗 SketchCow But all providers now have rules to blast open the doors for speedtest.net, so it seems they're fast
17:43 🔗 SketchCow But fast is run by Netflix
17:43 🔗 SketchCow Which means the companies would have to blast open the doors to Netflix
17:43 🔗 SketchCow Which they won't do
17:43 🔗 SketchCow so you get the REAL speed
17:43 🔗 SketchCow I like that
17:44 🔗 godane it works now
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17:45 🔗 Igloo I like that. I'll use that in future. It's less cluttered than speedtest
17:57 🔗 schbirid2 uff, cinemageddon is ~300TB
18:08 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: hah, nice little trick there
18:09 🔗 joepie91 unfortunate that it doesn't test upload though
18:16 🔗 schbirid2 https://encode.ru/threads/1889-gzthermal-pseudo-thermal-view-of-Gzip-Deflate-compression-efficiency
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18:38 🔗 Frogging speedtest.net uses many different servers run by many different companies. ISPs would have to add specific rules for all of them. I still wouldn't put it past them though
18:38 🔗 joepie91 Frogging: it's pretty trivial to just look at the server list speedtest.net uses :P
18:38 🔗 joepie91 this isn't a manual process
18:38 🔗 Frogging true, but there would be "collateral" because the servers might be used for other things
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18:44 🔗 joepie91 possible but not likely to be significant
18:44 🔗 godane SketchCow: so i can't change to my Godane VHS Capture folder
18:44 🔗 godane 550 Failed to change directory.
18:48 🔗 Smiley except that free webbrowsing via speedtest thing that happened lol
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18:57 🔗 SketchCow godane: Let me see what I can do.
18:57 🔗 SketchCow godane: Try again
18:58 🔗 SketchCow 13:38 < Frogging> speedtest.net uses many different servers run by many different companies. ISPs would have to add specific rules for all of them. I still wouldn't put it past them though
18:58 🔗 SketchCow ha ha, you're fucking adorable
18:58 🔗 SketchCow Wait
18:58 🔗 SketchCow A company
18:58 🔗 SketchCow In a single business
18:58 🔗 SketchCow might demand one of their people
18:58 🔗 SketchCow work endlessly
18:58 🔗 SketchCow to ensure that they look as good as possible in the one main thing people check
18:59 🔗 SketchCow Fun fact
18:59 🔗 SketchCow Did you ever read about exactly how Volkswagen did those cheats to get around pollution testing
18:59 🔗 godane ok fixed
18:59 🔗 SketchCow The nuclear-level engineering that went into ensuring it would both lie about how much pollution it was pushing out while still being safe for people
19:00 🔗 Frogging oh sure, I just wondered about how they might do it since it's many servers and not just one. but as joepie91 pointed out, the list is public and the collateral is probably negligible
19:00 🔗 SketchCow https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?page_id=1022
19:00 🔗 SketchCow Once you read that
19:00 🔗 SketchCow Nothing gets past it
19:01 🔗 SketchCow godane: I was synchronizing the data away from old FOS to new FOS and it overwrote the ownership
19:01 🔗 godane thats what i figured
19:02 🔗 godane anyways Game Developers Choice Awards Night 2005-03-09 tape 2 is going up
19:02 🔗 SketchCow Fantastic
19:02 🔗 SketchCow Old FOS is beginning a delightful death
19:03 🔗 godane i maybe using debian has a base at some point soon
19:03 🔗 godane for my OS
19:04 🔗 godane http://www.slax.org/ is moving to debian instead of slackware
19:04 🔗 zino Old FOS should get a viking burial at sea. It has been through a lot.
19:05 🔗 godane i thought the old FOS just need a new hard drive or some thing
19:06 🔗 godane step 1) mirror old FOS hard drive to new hard drive
19:06 🔗 SketchCow The old FOS is part of entire rack that's being decommisioned.
19:06 🔗 godane ok
19:06 🔗 SketchCow And no, that's not how it's working.
19:06 🔗 SketchCow Entirely new OS version, layout, etc.
19:06 🔗 godane ok then
19:06 🔗 godane ok then
19:06 🔗 SketchCow Just still Ubuntu
19:06 🔗 SketchCow Same asshole admin in charge of it
19:06 🔗 SketchCow new boss same as the old boss
19:07 🔗 ivan does underscor still work at IA?
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19:12 🔗 SketchCow No.
19:12 🔗 ivan thanks
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20:08 🔗 schbirid2 cum hors-d'oeuvre
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