#archiveteam-bs 2018-03-06,Tue

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00:09 πŸ”— godane more digitize tapes: https://www.patreon.com/posts/digitize-tapes-17385718
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00:52 πŸ”— riking this is educational as a survey of dead image hosts
00:52 πŸ”— riking imageftw.com, majhost.com, myfrogbag...
00:57 πŸ”— powerKitt I'll never get why people don't just use imgur
00:58 πŸ”— JAA Imgur sucks.
00:58 πŸ”— riking powerKitt: myfrogbag is notable in that it accepted Flash uploads
00:59 πŸ”— powerKitt There was also swfbin
00:59 πŸ”— riking oh right does anyone know how to rewrite old imageshack URLs to working ones
00:59 πŸ”— riking take http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8941/fa101.gif as an example
00:59 πŸ”— powerKitt it died and took several SWFs for the Homestuck ARG "SBARG" with it. The creator has disclosed to me that he no longer has the source FLAs or indeed any copies.
01:01 πŸ”— powerKitt riking: you can't.
01:01 πŸ”— powerKitt Imageshack have already deleted that image.
01:01 πŸ”— riking ok, I'll just let the 'pull from wayback' do its thing then
01:02 πŸ”— powerKitt Imageshack is an incredibly awful image host, since they just delete old images without warning to free up space.
01:02 πŸ”— riking it's getting a 60-80% hit rate
01:02 πŸ”— powerKitt https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263771/ban-imageshack-images-because-they-are-reusing-old-urls-for-advertising in fact, if this stackexchange report is to be believed, they actually used to replace old images with advertising.
01:03 πŸ”— riking hoooo weee
01:03 πŸ”— powerKitt have you tried contacting the original authors of stories with missing images, by the way
01:03 πŸ”— riking not yet, there's a couple I definitely know will be possible
01:04 πŸ”— riking I've been keeping a notes file with completely failing stories https://github.com/riking/mspfa-archiver/blob/master/wip
01:05 πŸ”— riking oh right I was thinking about contact as primary recovery for dropbox URLs
01:06 πŸ”— riking the files almost certainly still exist! just not at public urls
01:11 πŸ”— riking I do feel a little guilty for copying the metadata over straight https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22a+crapload+of+people%22
01:12 πŸ”— riking but I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to do when the "author" field is free text
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02:49 πŸ”— rbraun Kaz: what kind of archivable site would #archivebot be good/bad for?
02:49 πŸ”— rbraun Kaz: (sorry for not responding earlier, i got busy)
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10:55 πŸ”— godane we have hbo first look at major league 2
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16:11 πŸ”— JAA An update on Charlie Rose: about 1000 of the 5400 remaining videos are done in 41 hours (plus some idling time because the disk was full). So I expect it to finish approximately on Pi Day.
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16:36 πŸ”— Jon blogged to seek advice on running an archive.org-a-like https://jmtd.net/log/self_hosted_archive.org/
16:40 πŸ”— JAA Jon: Ah, right, you asked about that some days ago. I came across https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted yesterday, which has an "Archiving and Digital Preservation" section of FOSS for self-hosting. I didn't look at it in detail, but maybe there's something in there for you.
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16:42 πŸ”— schbirid Jon: which aspects of archive.org are the important ones for you there?
16:42 πŸ”— schbirid there is some software for museums/libraries but i cannot remember its name right now
16:44 πŸ”— schbirid "artifacts" might have been a related term, dunno
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17:20 πŸ”— bithippo @jon: Have you seen https://github.com/internetarchive/wayback?
17:22 πŸ”— bithippo All depends on if you want to store items (and then have those items derived), or store WARCs and represent them with a viewer.
17:22 πŸ”— bithippo Blob storage is the easy part!
17:24 πŸ”— JAA bithippo: I believe he's looking for something similar to IA itself (items, collections, etc.), not the Wayback Machine.
17:24 πŸ”— bithippo Sorry for the noise then!
17:38 πŸ”— riking hmm. should I be using something that's not the wiki to track to-dos
17:38 πŸ”— riking previously I was using a text file checked into git and that's not going to Scale ℒ️
17:38 πŸ”— riking to, uh, "more than just me"
17:40 πŸ”— JAA I've been wondering for a while whether it would make sense to set up an AT issue tracker.
17:41 πŸ”— JAA But there would be a significant overlap with the wiki, and we probably want to avoid splitting the information across multiple platforms.
17:42 πŸ”— SketchCow eeeeuh
17:52 πŸ”— PurpleSym Are there any issue trackers with date-based deadlines? I.e. β€œwebsite X is going down next monday”.
17:54 πŸ”— JAA Yeah, many of them support a "due date" setting, I believe.
17:55 πŸ”— bithippo I really like Github Issues for these sorts of things, but I totally understand if that's not the AT "way"
17:55 πŸ”— bithippo I would be amiable to running a hosted Gitlab issue tracker, or paying annually for one if the amount was reasonable
18:15 πŸ”— riking i switched to a spreadsheet for failed-pull tracking and it's definitely better than repeatedly editing the wiki page
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