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Anyone deal with updating wikipedia pages of people who have recently passed? according to communication on alt.folklore.computers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Godbout perished in the Camp Fire in Oroville CA on thursday morning, 20181108 |
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but no obituary or even mention in a newspaper has been published yet, afaict |
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Lord_Nigh, @-bs happens to the best of us |
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according to a random lookup site his full name was William Joseph Godbout and he was 79 years old |
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arkiver / JAA / HCross , what's the status on getting the Angelfire grab going? I'm pretty sure the scripts are good to go and are on the official AT github. All thats left should be creating a rsync target and setting up and actual Warrior project -- I dont want to divert any resources from critical archiving stuff, but given there isn't really many active Warrior projects, it would be nice to at least have something |
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for the Warriors |
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Ryz: Found that AddictingGames has the following as a returned header "Content-Security-Policy: frame-ancestors *.shockwave.com *.addictinggames.com *.smosh.com *.break.com *.thegloss.com *.crushable.com *.gurl.com *.teen.com *.mademan.com *.escapistmagazine.com *.blisstree.com *.thegrindstone.com *.mommyish.com" |
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Should we be making a list of those sites |
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...what, even more websites?! That's more than I expected from looking at what properties Defy Media has on lookin on their Wikipedia page |
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Oh, I think it's because Clevver Media |
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JAA |
anarcat: Regarding avoiding WARC copies in pywb, I believe you can move the WARCs to the collection directory and then trigger a reindex. I think the command for the latter is 'wb-manager reindex <collection>'. If you want to add WARCs and only index those, there's also something like 'wb-manager index <collection> <files>' where you list those WARCs explicitly. |
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Part of this is documented at https://pywb.readthedocs.io/en/latest/manual/usage.html#using-existing-web-archive-collections . The 'reindex' and 'index' commands don't seem to be mentioned in the docs, but 'wb-manager -h' does list them. |
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https://gbatemp.net/threads/nintendo-wins-legal-case-over-rom-site-site-owner-ordered-to-pay-12-million-in-damages.523104/ |
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JAA: the problem is i *can't* move the original files at all... they are readonly in git-annex, in a separate directory |
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JAA: There *is* a livestream for that conference I mentioned months ago: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkUsw2Lo1ahekgy_xEb11BA/videos |
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anarcat: Symlinks? |
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I don't think pywb will modify the WARCs in any way, but having them read-only would prevent that anyway. :-) |
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PurpleSym: Nice, thanks! I don't have time to watch it now, but it would be ironic if it wasn't preserved properly. |
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So I'm just going to assume that and look into it when I have time. :-) |
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JAA: well that's exactly what my patch does :) https://github.com/webrecorder/pywb/pull/409 |
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anarcat: Nice :-) |
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JAA |
This copying has annoyed me quite a bit as well, so I'd definitely be interested in such a feature. |
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JAA: would love to get support in the PR, i expect some pushback... |
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anarcat |
the other annoyance when working with grab-site vs pywb is that pywb thinks it's important to regenerate all CDX files, which we already have! |
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anarcat |
https://github.com/webrecorder/pywb/issues/410 |
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anarcat |
and worse, all those files are merged into one, which will be a pretty catastrophic for us |
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i also had errors when adding a bunch of warc files, but no way to figure out which https://github.com/webrecorder/pywb/issues/44#issuecomment-438121777 |
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anarcat: You can give it the CDX files, I think. But yeah, it'll merge them since it uses only a single DB to determine whether/when a requested resources was archived. |
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anarcat |
JAA: well, if you know how, comment on #410, because i couldn't figure it out |
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JAA |
Unfortunately, there are different CDX formats out there, so conversion may be necessary. |
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anarcat |
i mean you can convert existing CDX files into their fancy CDXJ format, but that's another thing i think |
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anarcat |
yes |
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anarcat |
they are CDXJ |
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i would hope a CDX/CDXJ conversion is faster than parsing the entire WARC file though |
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Ah yeah, that's what I was thinking of. |
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JAA |
wb-manager cdx-convert, to be precise. |
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anarcat |
yes |
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anarcat |
all it does here is print the very useful "Index files up-to-date, nothing to convert" |
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Yes, CDX processing should definitely be much faster than WARC parsing, especially considering you need to decompress the latter first in almost all cases. |
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i found error reporting, in general, quite lacking in pywb |
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yep |
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hopefully it streams the damn thing and doesn't write it to disk |
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but at this point nothing will surprise me |
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anarcat |
i tried to see how i could implement the CDX import, just like the symlink stuff |
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What do you mean exactly re: streaming? |
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but then i only found this opaque thing self._index_merge_warcs(full_paths, self.DEF_INDEX_FILE) |
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anarcat |
JAA: i mean "gunzip -c foo.gz | dostuff" vs "gunzip foo.gz ; dostuff foo" |
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anarcat |
former is streaming, latter is stupid |
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Ah |
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I think it should be equivalent to the former, yeah. |
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hopefully |
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it certainly feels so anyways |
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JAA |
pywb uses warcio, and warcio does that. |
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cool |
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anarcat |
https://github.com/webrecorder/pywb/issues/411 |
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JAA |
Added a comment to your PR. |
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thanks! |
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Has somebody thrown my latest list of domains in to the warrior already? |
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(latest is https://transfer.sh/8dt4d/better.txt from 2018-11-11 9:23) |
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JAA were there problems with the documenation? |
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twoTBHetz: Oh, right. Sorry, didn't have time yet to look into it. |
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ok i am AFK for a few minutes but it would be great if my effort would not be in vain :) |
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Although this would probably be perfect for the warrior (lots of small sites), I'm not sure if we'll go that route. |
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arkiver: Would a "small-sites"-like generic warrior project make sense? One where the item value is a URL and the worker would just recursively retrieve that URL (without offsite links)? |
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That could be useful for things like Hostinger (above, "only" 20k sites), Angelfire, Tripod, or even GeoCities. |
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Item 'url:https://example.org/~arkiver/' would grab your site, 'url:https://example.org/~jaa/' mine, etc. |
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That would obviously only be suitable for things like free webhosters since those sites typically have very strict size limits and can therefore be archived like this. But there are quite a few of those free webhosters still around, and a generic project might make sense. |
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JAA and? |
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adinbied |
JAA, would the angelfire scripts I wrote work for that? Also, what's the status on getting the Angelfire project going? |
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Depends on whether arkiver has time for it, I guess. I have too much other stuff going on at the moment to look into the warrior. |
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adinbied |
Alright, got it. No worries! |
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And yeah, your scripts might be a good basis for that, although they would obviously need to be generalised a bit more. |
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twoTBHetz (if you read the logs): I've started an ArchiveBot job based on your list. We'll see how much that gets. |
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moufu: sorry about the really exotic issues |
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they don't really seem that exotic, it just means pullcord hasn't been tested well enough |
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twoTBHetz: In case you didn't see it in the logs, I've started an ArchiveBot job based on your list earlier. It's almost through the list and will start recursing then. |
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twoTBHetz |
i read the logs but did come that far |
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The job itself could go much faster. But probably Hostinger won't like that. |
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twoTBHetz |
i did a lot to cut the job down. |
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maybe more that it was worth |
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twoTBHetz |
JAA was my documenation readable? |
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kiska |
twoTBHetz: Where was your documentation again? |
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twoTBHetz |
https://transfer.sh/13ZRQa/Documentation.hostinger.txt kiska |
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kiska |
Thanks |
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twoTBHetz |
you might want that https://honeypot.xn--schg-noa.de/workspace1.zip as well |
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kiska |
I'll go through it after my exam today |
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twoTBHetz |
so i will check back then :) |
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kiska |
Check back in 12 hrs, since my exam is in 6 hrs and goes for 4 hrs |
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twoTBHetz |
works for me |
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twoTBHetz |
go to bed then :) |
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