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Flashfire |
Is the webroasting project still active? |
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ATrescue3 |
Sorry, my IRC client automatically reconnected. I will leave immediately. |
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ATrescue3 |
(Because my IP address changes every day due to internet provider.) |
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ATrescue3 |
Before I leave: JAA: PurpleSym: Kaz: Before judging too early and thinking “not him again”, please be open-minded and read the answers: https://gist.github.com/ATRescue/bd40310ddf6c34ba68356fbd0f37352f – Thank you. |
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Kaz |
I mean uh |
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Kaz |
Ballsy. |
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Flashfire |
And I have never personally attacked any ArchiveTeam member. |
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Flashfire |
less J.A.A. (Just Always Angry) is found like 5 or 6 lines us |
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Flashfire |
I mean personally I have always seen ArchiveTeam as fair (Even if I wasnt happy with some of the decisions) But i respect them. (Was also an interesting read that) |
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Sokar |
looks like someone's crusing for a wildcard ban, impressive |
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Flashfire |
I think I almost got one of those once. I was lucky |
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Flashfire |
(and pulled my head in somewhat) |
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Flashfire |
Have we had many wildcard bans in the past? |
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Sokar |
looks like 8 in the current list |
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Flashfire |
What list? there is a list? |
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Flashfire |
How many times has my name been written then crossed out :-P |
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Sokar |
just in the banlist for the channel |
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Sokar |
who knows historically, people eventually give up |
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Flashfire |
I never did find out if the archiveteam grand council came to a proper decision on me |
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Fusl |
i have no reason to not believe ATrescue at "client automatically reconnected." since now is usually the time his 24h forced reconnect happens, but dropping that link and pinging some people before leaving again is IMHO a ban evasion. the gist containing a message that SketchCow wrote three minutes after kicking ATr also suggests that he either has another client connected around or someone forwarding him |
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Fusl |
messages from here, in the latter case: congratulations you fucktard, whoever you are, you are entitled to leave as well now. |
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Flashfire |
Good pick up Fusl |
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Flashfire |
Fusl which message? |
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Fusl |
"I just super-blocked him." |
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Flashfire |
Are the logs for this channel public? |
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ivan |
haha <Sokar> looks like someone's crusing for a wildcard ban, impressive |
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Flashfire |
I still think I narrowly avoided one of them🤔 |
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wm_ |
it might be various substances or there is damn nice irony if there would be a public log site and people complain about it... as archiveteam :p (not related to before, just lold irl haha) |
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Flashfire |
lol |
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wm_ |
i mean yea, this is live https://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_logs/archiveteam-bs |
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wm_ |
but not exactly user friendly as the IRC log interfaces from like a decade ago even |
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Fusl |
oh yeah they are |
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Fusl |
ohai wm_ |
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Fusl |
didnt expect you around here |
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wm_ |
yea i'm here but no worry, was since... years i guess lol |
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wm_ |
i have.. efnet history for a shitload of warez |
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wm_ |
topic probably never came up with us haha |
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wm_ |
good point |
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wm_ |
can/should someone archive https://scenenotice.org/browse.php ? |
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wm_ |
SSL broken and no idea if it qualifies, but such content gets extremely rare sadly |
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Fusl |
that would be #archivebot, not sure though if we archive stuff of questionable legality |
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wm_ |
not the case |
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wm_ |
well, not for the NFOs |
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Flashfire |
It depends on how questionable it is |
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wm_ |
some attachments maybe mhm |
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wm_ |
Xrel demonstrated NFOs are legal, its just text |
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Fusl |
also, seems that there was a grab in 2015 https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/bamhk |
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wm_ |
nice, need to get a copy before i forget... i doubt many are interested but it was a fascinating world at the time |
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Fusl |
there have also been from this year. check https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/domain/scenenotice.org |
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Fusl |
so yeah i'd say that content is pretty much safe |
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wm_ |
yup seems good, and the Welcome to the Scene mini series is since 2016 on archive.org, replacing the crappy Gulli mirrors ( https://archive.org/details/welcome_to_the_scene_season_1 for anyone interested) |
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hook54321 |
do we have plans to archive ghostbin? (shut down notice here: https://ghostbin.com/) |
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wm_ |
sounds hard? pastebinsshould not have public content listings, usually |
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hook54321 |
I'm guessing we would likely use a combination of discovering links through stuff like twitter, reddit, etc, and warrior-based discovery. |
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hook54321 |
however it's also behind cloudflare :/ |
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Fusl_ |
it being behind cf is bad but not a showstopper if we wanted to do it anyways |
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astrid |
it says everything expires in 48h |
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astrid |
or am i missing something |
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Ryz |
astrid: Because of shutting down, new pastes in that website will expire in 48 hours - it didn't in the past: https://web.archive.org/web/20190417131739/https://ghostbin.com/ |
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astrid |
ah yeah ok |
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astrid |
idk i remain dubious of the value of archiving every pastebin clone, especially because they are often used with the expectation that data there SHOULD only last a few hours |
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astrid |
and that feels like betraying the intent of the user |
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Flashfire |
he/she has a point please circle which is correct |
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astrid |
? |
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Flashfire |
I meant you had a point but I was unsure of pronoun |
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astrid |
she |
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astrid |
still can't really parse |
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Ryz |
I personally use 'they' to those that I don't know people I interact with enough~ |
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astrid |
in my mind archiveteam is about preserving that which was published and is in danger of callous deletion by platforms who have decided "fuck you i am out of money" |
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astrid |
archiving every paste on every pastebin feels ... out of place |
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astrid |
i will however not stop you, merely question in public |
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Ryz |
Anyway; in regards of Pastebin-likes, what are your thoughts on archiving the public part of stuff? I mean, Pastebin has an option to have 'em unlisted |
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Flashfire |
I mean if we do make a project I propose a name like pasteandcopy as a reversal of copy and paste |
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wm_ |
maybe one should note - i run a pastebin also - thattext compresses obviously extremely well |
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wm_ |
so moving and storing is probably negligible, finding the URLs and avoiding issues like leaks with a random trial & error generator... what you get from forums and social media might be next to nothing or everything without anyone disclosing data |
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marked1 |
#copybin |
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marked1 |
#ghosted-bin ? |
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Fusl |
#binned? |
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Fusl |
SketchCow: i can haz write access to the flickr collection plz? |
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hook54321 |
I'm assuming I made some errors while making that page :/ |
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hook54321 |
how about #ghostedbin ? (Unless we want a single channel for pastebin-like services) |
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godane |
SketchCow; i'm digitizing 3 tapes i got from savers earlier this week |
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godane |
there reader digest tapes released in 1988 and hard cover ones |
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godane |
grand canyon, yosemite, yellowstone is on what i got |
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eythian |
SketchCow: you're coming to the Netherlands? Whereabouts/what for? |
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godane |
i finally found something japanese in google drive : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_Bf3673FOzNdDM3QnFHSS02YUE/edit |
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odemgi_ |
imagine this cunt on your doorbell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmEhCDRvQKA |
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schbirid2 |
there is no u in archiveteam |
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astrid |
archiveteaum |
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astrid |
checkmate americans |
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schbirid2 |
urchinteam |
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jut |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_urchin |
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jut |
No thank you |
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astrid |
they're basically the cutest |
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muricateam |
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i'm uploading a magazine called Cmeha or Smeha |
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godane |
i'm calling it Cmeha cause thats what looks like on pages |
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pdfs are coming from here http://smena-online.ru/archive/1924 |
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godane |
urls are going to look like this : cmeha-1924-issue-01 |
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JAA |
This might be old news, but I just saw that the official IA help site mentions us: https://help.archive.org/hc/en-us/articles/360001513491-Save-Pages-in-the-Wayback-Machine :-) |
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Soo, Ghostbin. It seems they use [0-9a-z] as the charset and length 5 for public, 8 for password-protected pastes. The latter is way too long, but the former would be 60 million URLs, which is a lot but feasible if they don't have a problem with a few hundred requests per second. |
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Fusl |
http://xor.meo.ws/03e6b551/7bd2/4fe0/bee4/f9a7c1f84ac7.png |
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Fusl |
want me to do an export? |
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JAA |
It seems there's still some discussion about whether we want to archive it at all. |
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JAA |
Also, what does that screenshot tell me exactly? (How many URLs?) |
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Fusl |
JAA: http://xor.meo.ws/DLURRMOXR11ypOW7JQdGKV412JnqsXqV/screencapture-majestic-reports-site-explorer-2019-05-18-00_29_19.png |
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Fusl |
1.21M backlinks to ghostbin.com |
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Fusl |
for discovery reasons |
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JAA |
That's the number of (indexed) pages where a Ghostbin URL appears, right? |
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Fusl |
aye |
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JAA |
And 46.5k URLs? |
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JAA |
Ghostbin URLs* |
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Fusl |
afaik those are amount of urls that were crawled ON ghostbin.com itself |
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JAA |
Ah |
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Fusl |
i dont know enough about how the majestic seo engine itself works to be 100% sure about that |
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JAA |
So which of those numbers is how many ghostbin.com URLs there are in the index (crawled or not)? |
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Fusl |
but 1.21M historic backlinks is everything that we need to know about |
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Fusl |
although backlinks doesnt necessarily mean that this is as many urls we can discover through that since there may be duplicates, different domains pointing to the same url, etc. |
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JAA |
Yeah, right. |
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Fusl |
indexed urls might be that number though |
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Fusl |
72,254 indexed urls in the historical database |
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