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00:57 🔗 drcd Currently archiving Make Magazine's YouTube channel. What exactly is going on with Make? I'm out of the loop.
00:58 🔗 SketchCow Just move
00:58 🔗 SketchCow Everyone's out of the loop
00:58 🔗 SketchCow I got a tip
00:58 🔗 drcd o7
01:14 🔗 godane SketchCow: so kbs keeps there mms:// urls working
01:14 🔗 godane i'm grabbing more that stuff
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07:59 🔗 godane SketchCow: you should also know there is a index version of Macworld (USA version) on vintageapple.org too
07:59 🔗 godane these files your uploading are different
08:00 🔗 godane first off macworld 1986-05 that you guys maybe missing 6 pages vs the one on vintageapple
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08:02 🔗 godane anyways good news MacTech magazine is the only one that vintageapple doesn't have a different copy of
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08:30 🔗 retnl please grab adafruit's website. they and Make have collaborated.
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10:06 🔗 godane SketchCow: this may interest you : https://archive.org/details/@scruss
10:07 🔗 godane some user guys on z80 and a logic bbs list from 1995-09-18
10:09 🔗 godane i'm so glad that there are scans of wired magazine from the 1990s finally
10:13 🔗 godane SketchCow: i would like to know how give you those EUMagazines
10:13 🔗 godane *who
10:13 🔗 godane or where they came from
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11:02 🔗 SketchCow Just a guy in Europe
11:02 🔗 SketchCow He gives me lots of things, like you do.
11:03 🔗 SketchCow Lot of Macintosh stuff, CD-ROMs, those come from him
11:03 🔗 SketchCow Scanned in 500+ CD-ROMs, etc.
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15:41 🔗 kpcyrd scanning CDs? like a photo copy?
15:47 🔗 Fusl probably
15:47 🔗 Fusl because yes, he does that
15:47 🔗 Fusl very important
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19:39 🔗 SketchCow And sometimes the crunchy bits inside
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21:03 🔗 godane SketchCow: looking at pdfinfo of wired magazines and i think there was made in 2012
21:03 🔗 godane CreationDate: Sun Mar 25 06:20:51 2012 EDT
21:05 🔗 godane the PC Computing and SciAm_1984-09 was also make in 2012
21:06 🔗 godane PCComputing-1988-08.pdf : Sun Apr 1 08:08:46 2012 EDT
21:06 🔗 SketchCow Yeah
21:07 🔗 godane so he got them from somewhere i guest
21:07 🔗 godane *guess
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22:22 🔗 Igloo Page 1 of about 147,000 results JAA (sites known to freeml.com via google, so likely not even close)
22:23 🔗 JAA Sounds fun.
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22:28 🔗 Igloo https://www.freeml.com/kuranet -> 9489 photos -> 143 pages of files @ 20 files per page -> 797 pages of "email" @ 15 per page
22:28 🔗 Igloo I have no idea on the number of replies
22:29 🔗 Igloo I make that ~24,304 items just on list. Excluding replies/comments
22:29 🔗 Igloo We need someone who speaks Japanese :)
22:31 🔗 JAA Uhh, "500 Internal Server Error" on the wiki...
22:32 🔗 JAA SketchCow: ^
22:34 🔗 JAA Igloo: Looks like the messages are numbered from 1 on each list, so kuranet has about 23.4k messages total?
22:36 🔗 SketchCow It'll heal itself or it won't
22:36 🔗 SketchCow If it persists, like a cough, let me know
22:37 🔗 JAA Will do.
22:49 🔗 Igloo what's the URL for the messages JAA ?
22:49 🔗 JAA E.g. https://www.freeml.com/kuranet/23363
22:50 🔗 Igloo Topics are subjects then?
22:50 🔗 JAA Not sure how it works exactly. I'd expect it to use the Message-ID.
22:51 🔗 Igloo Ok, So "Topic display list" is subjects (from what I can glean)
22:51 🔗 JAA Or References.
22:51 🔗 Igloo "Mail display list" is individual mails / replies
22:51 🔗 Igloo It's a mailing list, so makes sense to be the subject?
22:51 🔗 Igloo Not sure; either or doesn't really matter
22:52 🔗 Igloo If you look at the top current entry for "Mail list" -> Heartworm; Go to "Mail display list" it says "subject" there which matches
22:52 🔗 Igloo With 1 reply to the original mail
22:52 🔗 Igloo So that would make sense to me that we're tlaking about 23k emails, on 11,955 subjects/topics
22:52 🔗 JAA I'd expect it to be the subject of the initial email starting a "topic", i.e. one that isn't a reply to a previous message.
22:53 🔗 Igloo Languages make this hard; But yes I think we're talking about the same thing :)
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22:53 🔗 Igloo Which would give us a total of around 47k items
22:53 🔗 JAA Also, the ID in the topic URL is the ID of that initial message.
22:54 🔗 JAA And if you try to access the same thing with later messages, you get redirected.
22:54 🔗 JAA E.g. https://www.freeml.com/kuranet/23363/latest -> https://www.freeml.com/kuranet/23361/latest
22:57 🔗 Igloo I'll pull a sitemap (there isn't one)
22:57 🔗 Igloo We can then have a list of the freeml.com/thing/ addresses, giving us a number to work from
22:58 🔗 JAA Sounds good. :-)
23:00 🔗 Igloo Running, Will check back on it tomorrow and see what we've won
23:00 🔗 JAA Cheers
23:02 🔗 Igloo Booo, it got banned already :(
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23:40 🔗 arkiver JAA: so https://www.freeml.com/kuranet/23363 URLs should list all?
23:40 🔗 arkiver Do we need a warrior project for this, or will your fast crawling script be able to get everything?
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23:44 🔗 JAA Seeing how quickly Igloo got banned, I assume qwarc won't work either. (It doesn't even support using multiple IPs, at least not directly.)
23:47 🔗 Flashfire Maybe we get The Fusl beast?
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23:53 🔗 arkiver JAA: so warrior project it is then
23:53 🔗 arkiver If we have any info on it, please put it on the wiki

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