#archiveteam-bs 2019-09-04,Wed

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05:37 🔗 n00b900 Hi, you may remeber me from http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam-bs?date=2019-08-19,Mon
05:39 🔗 n00b900 I was at #archivebot and it said "[23:36] <n00b900> !archive [URL] [23:36] <Major> n00b900: Sorry, only channel operators or voiced users may use that command."
05:39 🔗 n00b900 What is a voiced user? Didn't see it here: https://archivebot.readthedocs.io/en/latest/search.html?q=voiced&check_keywords=yes&area=default
05:44 🔗 n00b900 Nevermind I looked it up. Maybe add it to those docs at archivebot.readthedocs.io though
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05:46 🔗 n00b900 Anyone here? Anyone here have a backyard? I sucks when one's backyard is like a panopticon.
05:47 🔗 n00b900 *It sucks
05:48 🔗 * n00b900 slaps superkuh around a bit with a large fishbot
05:48 🔗 * n00b900 slaps t3 around a bit with a large fishbot
05:49 🔗 * n00b900 slaps n00b900 around a bit with a large fishbot
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05:53 🔗 Raccoon mhmm
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13:43 🔗 SakoeraTy Apparently someone (I don't know who, anyone from here?) did this: https://xslicer.nl/aniwaybackup/
13:44 🔗 SakoeraTy Just now, I manually did web.archive.org/save/ for most if not all the latest posts made after the archivebot backup started
13:45 🔗 SakoeraTy The xslicer one doesn't seem to have images, avatars, signatures, etc backupped though
13:46 🔗 SakoeraTy Oh wait, some of them load, but they just refer to the URLs (e.g. imgur, which apparently deletes images after not being accessed for a few months)
13:47 🔗 SakoeraTy Others are hosted on the forums itself it seems, which aren't included in the xslicer backup
13:56 🔗 SakoeraTy It uses relative paths for images hosted on aniway.nl - and since that backup doesn't have them - those aren't available even now the forum is still up
14:12 🔗 JAA SakoeraTy: Do you have an example?
14:13 🔗 JAA Also, Imgur never deletes images automatically as far as I know; other images hosters certainly do though.
14:13 🔗 SakoeraTy https://xslicer.nl/aniwaybackup/viewtopic.php.t32961
14:13 🔗 SakoeraTy https://xslicer.nl/aniwaybackup/download/file.php?avatar=6620_1320258911.jpg
14:13 🔗 SakoeraTy https://xslicer.nl/aniwaybackup/download/file.php?avatar=5460.jpg
14:14 🔗 JAA Ah, avatars.
14:14 🔗 SakoeraTy https://xslicer.nl/aniwaybackup/download/file.php?avatar=78_1561544446.jpg
14:14 🔗 JAA I was looking for images embedded in posts.
14:14 🔗 JAA The ArchiveBot job should've grabbed the avatars.
14:14 🔗 SakoeraTy Interestingly the logo at the top doesn't show up either, despite them working (and linking to aniway.nl - no relative path to the backup url here) when I do right click - view image
14:15 🔗 SakoeraTy Though they wouldn't work for long anyway
14:15 🔗 JAA Yup, the AB job grabbed avatars.
14:16 🔗 SakoeraTy <JAA> Also, Imgur never deletes images automatically as far as I know; other images hosters certainly do though. <- I thought so, too but
14:16 🔗 SakoeraTy https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Imgur
14:16 🔗 SakoeraTy "Images submitted by free users are deleted after not being accessed for 6 months."
14:16 🔗 SakoeraTy Or is that out-of-date or taken from their TOS, but not necessarily enforced?
14:16 🔗 SakoeraTy Because tbh I don't remember finding dead images on imgur.com
14:17 🔗 SakoeraTy Unlike, say, everything that used to be on imageshack
14:17 🔗 JAA Doesn't seem to be accurate. I just checked a few random Imgur links that I'm almost certain haven't been accessed since late 2017, and they were all still available.
14:19 🔗 JAA They used to have an article in their help section that explicitly said that images are kept forever. Can't find it anymore though.
14:20 🔗 JAA http://web.archive.org/web/20160308023529/https://help.imgur.com/hc/en-us/articles/201476457-How-long-do-you-keep-the-images-
14:20 🔗 JAA Of course, one should never rely on that anyway.
14:48 🔗 SakoeraTy https://www.mangaheuvel.be/phpbb/index.php might be archiving too maybe
14:48 🔗 SakoeraTy People are planning on migrating from Aniway to mangaheuvel, aniway being a much bigger forums, so...
14:48 🔗 SakoeraTy That might means changes in structure, cleanup maybe
14:48 🔗 SakoeraTy Also apparently there's a registration problem on mangaheuvel forums atm
14:49 🔗 SakoeraTy They might update the forum software
15:34 🔗 Raccoon i don't think imgur deletes photos if you're logged in when you upload it.
15:34 🔗 Raccoon at least my images page is blanketed with a decade of spiderweb images
15:37 🔗 Raccoon ok, i can confirm they delete old images uploaded by ShareX (screen capture program)
15:38 🔗 Raccoon they must use a combination of view count and user-agent
15:46 🔗 Raccoon https://i.imgur.com/removed.png
16:02 🔗 JAA SakoeraTy: I've started AB jobs for that site, both the main site and the forums.
16:42 🔗 Raccoon JAA: are there any C coders amongst the archive family whom I might mooch some codemonkey time fom?
16:42 🔗 Raccoon *from
16:42 🔗 SakoeraTy Thanks
16:43 🔗 JAA No idea.
16:43 🔗 SakoeraTy And now that I saw that removed.png, I do remember seeing it sometimes
16:43 🔗 Raccoon you don't have a team at the ready?
16:43 🔗 Raccoon #archiveteam-cm code monkeys
16:44 🔗 JAA Yes, I've seen https://i.imgur.com/removed.png many times, but those were images that were removed either by the uploader or on copyright grounds, I think. I haven't seen any images removed automatically by Imgur.
16:45 🔗 Raccoon i did a deeper sweep and only found that one image was removed from my ShareX history. It's the oldest image, and from Nov 2017, and possibly never shared with anyone.
16:45 🔗 Raccoon test upload
16:46 🔗 Raccoon i can't even promise if I removed it myself somehow
16:46 🔗 JAA ShareX apparently has a menu button for that.
16:47 🔗 Raccoon so could have been manually removed
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20:29 🔗 godane so i found out that TOSEC-PIX pdfs have metadata stripped from the pdfs sometimes
20:30 🔗 godane this cause them to no be the 1 to 1 with the original pdfs there based on
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23:00 🔗 arkiver JAA: how is the Disqus archiving going?
23:04 🔗 JAA arkiver: I only archived Disqus Channels, which were shut down on Sunday.
23:05 🔗 Raccoon they actually did shut them down on a laborday weekend sunday?
23:06 🔗 JAA Yes
23:07 🔗 JAA Or maybe someone added an if (date >= '2019-09-01') somewhere beforehand.
23:07 🔗 JAA arkiver: And regarding how that went, see what I wrote in here on Sunday. The numbers don't match, but my archival finished in time.
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