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00:56 🔗 JAA Many, many elections this month. Any help with research and archival would be much appreciated.
00:59 🔗 JAA PurpleSym: purplebot needs a resuscitation.
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01:19 🔗 godane SketchCow: i noticed your comment on r/DataHoarder about the news broadcasts
01:19 🔗 godane if you can sent them to me i can digitize them
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02:07 🔗 godane SketchCow: this site is going october 31 : https://apkscan.nviso.be/
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03:18 🔗 Ryz godane: Can't be thrown on ArchiveBot due to how pagination is handled? :c
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04:24 🔗 godane Ryz: from the bottom of the page : Hiding 199502 reports. Use the filter at the top of the page to include different results. When specifying no filter, the 10 most recent uploads are listed.
04:25 🔗 Ryz Yeah, I saw earlier :c
04:28 🔗 godane so i found something called Cybermania 1994 that aired on TBS
04:28 🔗 godane turns out its not archive.org but the original avi file is still on myspleen
04:29 🔗 godane so i'm grabbing for you guys
04:30 🔗 godane a part of me thinks it may have been uploaded then darked but i don't know if ever was on archive.org at all
04:31 🔗 godane i really wish i could search the darked items metadata to see what archive.org has
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10:53 🔗 JAA Thanks
10:54 🔗 JAA picosong update after almost 18 hours: still running well, though the CDN had a little hickup about 1.5 hours ago which failed a bunch of songs; I'll deal with those in the end. 65.5k items (of 481k) done.
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12:20 🔗 markedL on apkscan the filter mentioned doesn't work properly so it's even worse than described
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14:32 🔗 PurpleSym schbirid: 5" or 3" floppies?
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14:38 🔗 schbirid 3"
14:43 🔗 schbirid here's a lazy list https://pastebin.com/raw/APhD4PwS
14:45 🔗 schbirid you could also get a ST3500630A, a WD3200BPVT and a TS-H352 for free if you relieve me :)
14:47 🔗 schbirid and 5 power plugs for external usb disks :]
14:57 🔗 PurpleSym I’m out, got a 5" drive only.
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15:20 🔗 betamax a quick check: I assume by ' 3" ' you mean 3.5" (the regular size of floppy disk in the 1990s)
15:21 🔗 betamax 3" disks did also exist, but were only really used by Amstrad in their CPC and PCW computers
15:21 🔗 betamax (I have a several PCWs, and the 3" drives are a pain because the belts perish and require replacement)
15:32 🔗 schbirid yeah just the standard 3.5 ones
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16:31 🔗 anarcat hello
16:31 🔗 anarcat i wonder if https://www.mobileread.com/ could use an archivebot crawl
16:31 🔗 anarcat i noticed this one (kind of famous) post that wasn't on IA so I wonder if it has ever been fully crawled
16:31 🔗 anarcat https://web.archive.org/web/20191006163011/https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=293242
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16:31 🔗 anarcat it's a huge forum, but high value for the e-reader community
16:32 🔗 anarcat it's not at risk, as far as i know, but you never know
16:32 🔗 anarcat it might be tricky to crawl, being some crap forum software
16:32 🔗 anarcat vbulletin?
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18:13 🔗 betamax schbirid: while I've got the equipment to read standard PC floppies, I don't have the time right now (I have a box of CD-ROMs in the "to archive" pile already, so they'd just be added to that :) )
18:14 🔗 betamax I'm also in the UK so shipping would probably be $$$ if you are anywhere else
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18:19 🔗 schbirid betamax: i would just be glad to not worry about them any more ;) if you end up ripping and uploading them, that would be ace but my mind is at ease once they are gone :D
18:19 🔗 schbirid shipping should be ok, i am in germany
18:19 🔗 schbirid yeah, easypeasy
18:20 🔗 schbirid if you want them, just pm me your address and i will send them this week
18:42 🔗 betamax schbirid: sent PM (can you confirm you got it - I don't trust my IRC client!)
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21:06 🔗 JAA picosong update after almost 28 hours: 105k of 481k items (= 62 song IDs each) done, about 518 GiB of WARCs so far.
21:09 🔗 JAA One process was OOM-killed earlier because it ate all the RAM. Oh well...
21:11 🔗 JAA A process manages less than 1k items on average before stopping due to exceeding 1 GiB of RSS, by the way.
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21:22 🔗 Czechball hey there, I'm having some troubles with wpull
21:22 🔗 Czechball it doesn't work at all, output of every command is invalid syntax
21:22 🔗 JAA Wow, breaking news. lol
21:22 🔗 JAA Sounds like you're using the wrong Python version.
21:23 🔗 Czechball 3.7
21:23 🔗 JAA Yep, wpull only works with 3.4 to 3.6.
21:23 🔗 Czechball oh. okay
21:23 🔗 JAA Yeah :-/
21:23 🔗 Czechball thanks..
21:23 🔗 JAA The wpull code is in a quite sorry state and needs a lot of work.
21:24 🔗 Czechball I'm currently trying to archive presentations from slideplayer.cz/.pl/.ru etc... and I'm figuring out how to bypass their captcha
21:26 🔗 Czechball so I wanted to scrape the website first... and I found wpull
21:26 🔗 JAA Hmm, where are you getting a captcha?
21:27 🔗 Czechball First, you click the share button (any of them, and the download button becomes active) and then there's captcha at the download page
21:28 🔗 Czechball basically here http://slideplayer.cz/slide/download/
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21:29 🔗 JAA Ah
21:29 🔗 Czechball after completing the captcha, you also have to wait 60 seconds to get the download
21:30 🔗 Czechball every presentation has its ID (slideplayer.cz/slide/ID) which is also its filename
21:30 🔗 Czechball so I was thinking of compiling a list of IDs first
21:30 🔗 JAA Yeah, that'll be difficult to bypass since it's reCAPTCHA.
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21:30 🔗 Czechball downloads look like this: http://player.slideplayer.cz/download/7/1924159/MtevaBd_iZarXWx5lMuJGA/1570368951/1924159.ppt
21:30 🔗 Czechball they expire after ~2 hours
21:32 🔗 Czechball maybe there's a way to sort of guess the location of the ppt file based on its ID
21:33 🔗 Czechball maybe the link generates after user clicks the Download button before the captcha
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21:40 🔗 JAA Nope, completing the captcha sends a POST request which returns the download URL. Then the site counts down from 60 seconds and redirects to that URL.
21:41 🔗 JAA Seems unlikely you can get to the files without solving the reCAPTCHA.
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21:43 🔗 Czechball well then, the question is, is it worth paying captcha solve farms for this?
21:44 🔗 Czechball probably not lol...
21:45 🔗 JAA Depends on how much you want those files. :-)
21:45 🔗 markedL if the html is straightforward to do, is there a big downside to crawling that
21:46 🔗 JAA Yeah, was just going to say, at least the slide contents seem to be available without limits.
21:47 🔗 Czechball I don't really know how their player works
21:47 🔗 Czechball I would really love to preserve the original presentation files, but crawling the contents of their player could also be the solution
21:49 🔗 Czechball How much I want those files? Well, there are thousands and thousands of presentations ranging from homeworks to professional ones.
21:49 🔗 Czechball Lot of people use their embedded player, and some people use it as their presentation "cloud"
21:50 🔗 Czechball it's hosted by some shady Russian company and there isn't much info about the project or the company...
21:50 🔗 JAA Yeah, it's definitely an interesting collection. The homepage claims a million presentations if I'm reading that correctly.
21:51 🔗 JAA But reCAPTCHA solving services are a few dollars per thousand captchas, so that's on the order of a couple thousand dollars for downloading all presentations...
21:51 🔗 Czechball I'm not sure if I'm believing that, but they have a lot of them, that's for sure
21:51 🔗 Czechball yeah it would be VERY costly
21:52 🔗 Czechball also there's no chance that I would be able to download all of them manually
21:53 🔗 JAA Yeah, of course not. This needs automation.
21:53 🔗 Czechball https://2captcha.com/ offers 1000 captchas for 0.5 USD
21:54 🔗 JAA Grabbing the HTML version will also be challenging though since there are probably a lot of potentially problematic cases like embedded videos etc.
21:54 🔗 Czechball yeah also that
21:54 🔗 JAA That's standard captchas. reCAPTCHA is more expensive. $2.99 per 1k on that particular service.
21:54 🔗 Czechball oh, I see..
21:56 🔗 Czechball by the way, there seems to be a slideplayer for almost every country
21:56 🔗 Czechball so that's a LOT of presentations
22:01 🔗 markedL I'm trying to test this https://github.com/dessant/buster
22:02 🔗 markedL so far I haven't gotten a captcha to use it because I have google cookies that look human already
22:02 🔗 JAA Private window?
22:03 🔗 Czechball you can try it on the slideplayer itself
22:03 🔗 Czechball I'll also check it...
22:05 🔗 markedL yeah, enable extention for incognito, incognito triggers image based captcha, extension button switches to audio based captcha and it passed it.
22:06 🔗 Czechball wow, it actually works
22:08 🔗 markedL yeah, I'm impressed too. there's a warning that you could still get rate limited which means you can't go too fast or need a lot of IPs if that turns out to be true.
22:21 🔗 JAA Nice
22:21 🔗 JAA Trying to figure out how it does the speech recognition.
22:24 🔗 JAA Looks like it uses a few different services. Including Google, lol.
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22:37 🔗 Czechball well, I'm going off now.. see ya later guys. and thanks for the help
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